Would anyone else like to see the Homeland Security Dept. dissolved...or at least renamed?

[marmar]

That "Homeland" (and its Nazi roots) name has been creeping me out ever since it was adopted. I remember seeing that scene in Fahrenheit 9/11 where * says, "We're going to defend the Homeland" and nearly losing my popcorn. :puke:

[babylonsister]

1. Me, me, me! I read FEMA's being moved most likely:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=4532539

You're not the only one with that idea. It's a horrible name.

[marmar]

2. Thanks for the link.....and the agreement.

Great minds and all, babylonsister.....

[misanthrope]

30. I think the abolition of DHS...

...combined with the rejuvenance of FEMA and the repeal of the Patriot Act would heighten Obama's political capital greatly. I know of plenty of folks of various political stripes who would be all for it.

[GP6971]

3. Renamed and reorganized

At least rename it and return FEMA to an independent agency

[The Wielding Truth]

7. Totally agree with you!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. You mean the Ministry of Fatherland Security?

Yeah, the name has very creepy Third Reich overtones; it's always bothered me. But it needs more than merely renaming: it needs disbanding and its functions returned to their original agencies. Especially the TSA (Thousands Standing Around).

Ministerium des Vaterlandsicherheit... :scared:

[G_j]

5. YES!

absolutely!

[proud patriot]

6. I don't like the name

x( I like the spying less :mad:

[ColbertWatcher]

8. Dissolve it and the rules introduced along with it. n/t

[MichiganVote]

11. Yup. Its a money pit.

[bemildred]

9. Oh fuck yes, and all the rest of the national insecurity state apparatus. nt

[hlthe2b]

10. Yes and yes...

Then oversight for the new department can be placed in another Senate Committee, leaving "Holy Joe" to contemplate his naval.

[AndyTiedye]

12. Yes, and the Homeland Security Committee Too

Let LIEberman be chairman of nothing.

[Edweird]

13. Dissolved. Restore Clinton era FEMA. stat.

[hay rick]

14. Ministry of Paranoia?

My first reaction to the name was- now we're gonna be the Nazis. Glad I'm not the only one.

[MadMaddie]

15. Absolutely needs to be evaluated

They cobbled several agencies togther and it is dysfunctional.

I also hate the word, "Homeland"! It just points to the fact that the * admin had no real sense of history and terminology.

FEMA needs to be seperated for sure.

[Laelth]

16. Abolished. n/t

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

[leftofthedial]

17. Call it "Fatherland Security Ministry"

[Liberal In Texas]

18. Abolish this bloated cash vacuum. And while they're at it, they can abolish the

Office of Faith Based Initiatives too. Talk about wasted government money.

[northofdenali]

19. RECOMMENDED.

I've said this in every letter to my new DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM ALASKA MARK BEGICH (sorry, I feel so GIDDY about that) as well as to letters to any senator or representative I think will listen.

And the TSA is a JOKE. Security pre-9/11 was at least as strong, albeit less visible. The TSA hiring practices are more than a joke, and when a 92 year old woman wearing capris, a t-shirt and sandals without hose is pulled from line for a "security check" it's just an EMBARASSMENT.

Sarah Palin should head Homeland Security and the TSA........... she could pardon one while having the other executed in the background, like her Thanksgiving turkey fiasco.

[salguine]

20. At least they didn't call it the Department of Fatherland Security. But I'm sure there were

some who wanted to.

[Shanti Mama]

21. Dissolved.

Living abroad I can see so clearly how useless and bloated it is.

[guyton]

22. How about calling it "Protective Squadrons"

Aka .. Schutzstaffel or simply the SS

[Thothmes]

36. How about "committee for state security"

[AuntPatsy]

23. Disolved, it reeks of nazi germany...I can't believe so many enjoyed the term?

[rhett o rick]

24. Duh!!!

[Wednesdays]

25. Shit, I want everything Repukes touched repealed back to 1980

I want everything the drunken fratboy signed gone, everything in the Contract on America gone, and everything that Saint Ronald and his Repuke cohorts schemed up...gone.

[ValhallaChaser]

27. I hated Carter...

and all that he did and didn't do. I even voted for him thinking that a Sailor could be a good national leader. I was disappointed.

[Amonester]

26. "Share your experiences and your ideas" (at change.gov)

"-- tell us what you'd like the Obama-Biden administration to do and where you'd like the country to go."

http://www.change.gov/page/s/yourstory


(I Really Hope They Will Listen) (Because They SHOULD)

[Samantha]

28. Why can't it be called something normal like "Domestic Security"

I am sure others will think of something better. I despise that name, "Homeland", too.

Sam

[Hekate]

29. Yes. YES! Y E S !!!!! Christ on a trailer hitch, what Nazi came up with Heimatland?!

This is the US of A, nation of immigrants.

Hekate

[Gormy Cuss]

31. Homeland is creepy. "Domestic security" would be far better.

The agency should be dismantled and some key departments moved into other agencies. Its spoiled brat child, the TSA, should be gutted and rebuilt to focus on real security rather than airport shoe dances.

[Lyric]

32. Yes, Dissolved, preferably, renamed at least.

"Homeland Security" is just loaded with fascist meaning. I loathe it.

[timtom]

33. Dissolved!

And forgotten.

[Solly Mack]

34. Yes

[NoPasaran]

35. Department of Fluffy Bunnies

[meow2u3]

37. Reorgnaize it and rename it the Department of Domestic Affairs

There would be no reference, historical or otherwise, to the totalitarian practices of the recent or more distant past. No reference to any kind of internal security.

[2Design]

38. dissolve - it has caused more inadequate responses to disaster than anything else

it is invasive, non protective and is a waste of our money

[SammyWinstonJack]

39. Dissolved!

:thumbsup:

[Kablooie]

40. Yes yes yes!!

I've hated the Nazi image ever since I first heard it.

[zorahopkins]

41. Dissolve The Entire Apparatus!

The Department of Homeland Security came into existence only so that Bush/Cheney could keep the American people in a constant state of fear.

*ith the inauguration of President Obama, the need for a constant state of fear *ill no longer be necessary. President Obama *ill not govern based on fear, but instead *ill govern based on HOPE.

Abolish this terrible relic from the corrupt Bush/Cheney regime!

note: In protest of the continued occupation of the *hite House by the corrupt, illegal, and immoral Bush/Cheney regime, I am refusing to use the letter bet*een "V" and "X".

[barbtries]

42. yep

i find it creepy too. and how much good has it done? i think it's a tool of fascists and therefore has no place in our democracy.

[eppur_se_muova]

43. How about 'Ministry of Freedom' ?

as homage to Orwell, natch.

[ACTION BASTARD]

44. How about S.H.I.E.L.D

Supreme Headquarters, International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division. And we could get Col. Nick Fury to run it of course.

[mojowork_n]

45. I prefer the original German --

Let's go with the full-throated, Heimat Sicherheitsvorkehrungen ("Homeland Security Measures")

or the more pithy,

Heimat Sicherheitsdienst (Homeland Security Department)

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb203/is_/ai_n28953747

But by all means replace the bland, banal, kind of twangy 'American' word, "Homeland," (which sort of sounds like it might have been sung by Burl Ives in a '50's folk song); with the much older, more honest and more deeply rooted (in fear and anger) Teutonic term:

"the defensive structures of a self and of a
Heimat fulfill the same purpose: they provide a sense of ontological security at the expense of those who are not give access because they might threaten this small world--women, Jews, transient workers, those who do not speak the local dialect"

[Donnachaidh]

46. drowned in a frigging bathtub please

Even the name should be banned - it's far too reminiscent of Nazi propaganda. :puke: