I told off a republican today

[loyalkydem]

Guess what I did today

I spoke to my conservative friend today. Normally, I don’t talk about politics with him but when the conversation of Obama came up, he spit out that crap about O’bama being a Muslim again.

Naturally I had it with his lies and I called him out on his shit. I pointed out to him that there’s no proof that Obama was ever a Muslim. He has said from day one that he was a Christian. I asked him where is your proof?

He then proceeds to tell me that when he was in Kenya, he read the Koran and practiced it. I said, “wrong” just because someone reads the Koran does not mean they are a Muslim, just quit trying to equate the man to something that he isn’t. Misconception is exactly the reason why your side lost November 4th.

He then goes on to say that racism died on November 4th. Again, I told him not exactly. I pointed out all the hate field messages that were being posted all over the south. The threats against his life and you’re going to tell me that racism died on November 4th?

Let’s just say he changed the subject very quickly after that.
I feel so good because he likes to argue facts and he couldn't produce any after I put him in his place.

[greguganus]

1. Was this in a Starbucks? n/t

[Javaman]

7. LOL nt

[Ian David]

2. I must be a Mormon, because I once read The Book of Mormon in a hotel room. n/t

[reflection]

4. I am a porn star, because I, er..

eh, forget it.

[BOSSHOG]

10. Because you're from STEELTOWN?

[reflection]

21. It didn't hurt.

:D

[prostock69]

38. I love your signature!!!!! Right on!

[yardwork]

53. BOSSHOG is totally awesome in all ways. Welcome to DU!

I see you're from Dayton. I'm from Ohio originally. Pleased to meet you.

[greguganus]

6. Was the book already in the room or did you bring it with you? n/t

[Ian David]

20. It was already in the room. It was a Mariott.

But I did leave a note on a slip of paper inside that said, "Is there santorum in your sheets?"

[Ignis]

36. Yeah, this surprised me, too.

Many hotels have not only the Bible but the Book of Moron in the bedside drawer these days.

Sadly, most hotels also have no fireplace. :shrug: So it's a bit of a wasted effort.

[Ian David]

46. Penn & Teller have a chapter in one of their books about creative ways to use these bibles. n/t

[Ignis]

48. I did not know that. Thanks! (nt)

[Sequoia]

22. I found The Book of Morman under a rock when I was on a hike.

I put it on shelf and a guy who was in my house wanted to know why I had the book of the devil on the shelf.

[Ian David]

23. Was it engraved on golden plates? n/t

[VOX]

45. Those plates were a box-set of CDs...taken back in time for Joe Smith to "discover"

How he played them is another matter! :crazy:

My wife actually heard this from one of our stranger neighbors.

[BlooInBloo]

3. :)))) Nicely done!

[Crazy Dave]

5. Yeah...just tell him about the "Oak Hill General Store" in Standish, ME

And their Obama death lottery that they hope someone gets to collect
http://foolocracy.com/2008/11/maine-store-sets-up-betting-pool-on-obama-assassination/
http://www.wabi.tv/index.php?cat_id=4006&url_news4006=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wabi.tv%2Fmodules%2FNews%2FdisplayNews.php%3Fid%3D4257&formFocus=news4006

Feel free to give them a Merchant Circle rating at:
http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Oak.Hill.General.Store.2.207-642-3600

Do make sure you change the default 3-star rating before submitting review.

[Sub Atomic]

28. Thanks for the links.

I only regret that you can't give them a zero-star rating.

[RagAss]

8. I must be a fascist, because I once read the patriot act !

[prostock69]

41. OMG! I laughed out loud on this one!

:rofl:

[louis-t]

9. It's very easy for an educated DUer to

dismantle everything they say. Once you pick apart their talking points, they have no where to go, so they usually shut up.

[rvablue]

11. How can it be that racism died on Nov 4, according to your friend, since

it is obvious that he is still an ignorant, hateful bigot.

Ironic, coming from him, no?

[ColbertWatcher]

14. Bravo! n/t

[LeftHander]

12. I sat on a potato...does that make me a Vicar?

LMPO

[Bobbie Jo]

15. !

LMPO *ouch* :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[MelissaB]

17. !!

:spray:

[prostock69]

42. I don't get it!

If you don't mind, let me in on the joke. :)

[drm604]

44. Really!

Vicar... potato... Huh? :shrug:

[Hekate]

52. Google is your friend. Ouch....

Vicar + potato gets you the following:

Vicar in casualty with spud stuck in backside | The Sun |News
Oct 31, 2008 ... A VICAR turned up in agony at a hospital — with a potato stuck in his bottom. The clergyman told stunned casualty nurses he fell backwards ...
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1876886.ece - Similar pages
plime.com : weird : Vicar with a potato up his bum
A vicar claims a potato got stuck up his bottom after he fell on the ... I don't think curtains had anything to do with the vicar's potato problem. ...
www.plime.com/weird/l/80711/1/ - 45k - Cached - Similar pages
Odd Section - News - Vicar has potato removed from bottom ...
Oct 31, 2008 ... A vicar in Yorkshire has had a potato removed from his bottom after claiming that he fell on it while hanging curtains naked. ...
www.digitalspy.co.uk/odd/a134237/vicar-has-potato-removed-from-bottom. html - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
I have seen the whole of the internet: Vicar hospitalised with ...
A vicar claims a potato got stuck up his bottom after he fell on to the vegetable while hanging curtains in the nude. The clergyman, in his 50s, ...
joannecasey.blogspot.com/2008/11/vicar-hospitalised-with-potato-up-his. html - 95k - Cached - Similar pages
Potato Wedgies: Vicar Gets Spud Stuck In Rectum | Anorak News
PLEASE turn in your Sun prayer books to page 29 and read aloud: A VICAR turned up in agony at a hospital — with a potato stuck in his bottom. Amen. And how.
www.anorak.co.uk/strange-but-true/193890.html - 57k - Cached - Similar pages

[tilsammans]

13. Ask for "just the facts, ma'am/sir"

That's been my approach to their crap. They can't show you ANY facts, just fear-filled smear propaganda. :puke:

[stuntcat]

16. "racism died on November 4th" .. oh that's rich

Maybe it's just me, but since the election I've heard the most racist bullshit, things I haven't heard since 20 years ago when I left the backwards-ass town I grew up in.

"racism died" MY ASS :eyes:

[AspenRose]

26. This is clearly the new meme being pushed by the right

I've seen this mentioned at least twice here today.

[Libertyfirst]

18. Only part of the racial incidents have been in the south. Please note. N/T

[tpsbmam]

19. I wasn't aware that Maine & NJ are in the South....gotta get me a new map!

Just one issue with your argument -- it hasn't been just the South.

(snips)

From California to Maine, police have documented a range of alleged crimes, from vandalism and vague threats to at least one physical attack. Insults and taunts have been delivered by adults, college students and second-graders.

Other incidents include:

Four North Carolina State University students admitted writing anti-Obama comments in a tunnel designated for free speech expression, including one that said: "Let's shoot that (N-word) in the head."
Second- and third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted "assassinate Obama," a district official said.
University of Alabama professor Marsha L. Houston said a poster of the Obama family was ripped off her office door. A replacement poster was defaced with a death threat and a racial slur. "It seems the election brought the racist rats out of the woodwork," Houston said.
Black figures were hanged by nooses from trees on Mount Desert Island, Maine, the Bangor Daily News reported. The president of Baylor University in Waco, Texas said a rope found hanging from a campus tree was apparently an abandoned swing and not a noose.
Crosses were burned in yards of Obama supporters in Hardwick, N.J., and Apolacan Township, Pa.
A black teenager in New York City said he was attacked with a bat on election night by four white men who shouted 'Obama.'
In the Pittsburgh suburb of Forest Hills, a black man said he found a note with a racial slur on his car windshield, saying "now that you voted for Obama, just watch out for your house."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27738018/

[miksla]

24. Are you a bigot if you did not vote for him

I am a conservative and hold no allegiance to the Republican Party. My vote went to John McCain and
as we all know he lost. (McCain was not have my choice in the Primaries)
It important to know that not all conservatives who did not want Obama to win are Racist.

I do not believe in his policies, his belief in wealth distribution and I certainly am concerned about
some of his close friends and connections.

I will however support him because I don't want him to fail.

Mike

[Blue Gardener]

27. Why are you on Democratic Underground?

If you voted for McCain?

[miksla]

29. I am interested in how democrats view issues

You cant always rely on Fox news or CNN to get the truth

[knitter4democracy]

33. That's putting it mildly.

Still, it can be hard for conservatives here. This is *Democratic*Underground, not ModerateUnderground or Let'sallgetalongUnderground.

Welcome. :hug:

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[CitizenPatriot]

30. what associations are you so concerned about?

Can you engage in a fact-filled debate on this issue? Please note that I will be firing back with a list of criminals and terrorists whom McCain, Bush, et al are VERY closely aligned with -- so please be prepared to tell me why those associations do not count but Obama's alleged whatever do. Also, please be prepared to discuss Palin's AIP ties, their ties to terrorists and white supremists, and the John Birch society -- you should be prepared to argue why it's alright for a so-called conservative to violate the constitution by advocating for secession as well as publicly proclaiming America a "christian nation" and calling for "holy wars". Please explain how that is American and adheres to the very foundation of this country. Lastly, I'd like to discuss why so called conservatives are so attached to going around making sure they are not called racists. Sadly, Palin's rallies made so called conservatives look like fringe element losers whose racism was sort of the least of their troubles, if you know what I mean. If your party acts like racists and does racist things (as over 10 official offices of the GOP did during the GE with mailers, not to mention the hate on GOP senators websites, etc which was addressed by our govt and found to be horrifyingly hate-filled and incorrect to boot)-- well, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it probably is a duck. the GOP always uses race as an issue in their southern strategy, and it's won elections for them for a long time. It didn't work this time.

you may not be a racist, but the fact that your reasons for not voting for Obama have almost all been disputed and found FALSE by snopes and other impartial organizations makes this claim suspect to say the least. Do you have a reason that hasn't been debunked?

Oh, and welcome to DU.

[miksla]

31. Concerns

That is a lenghty post and I will gladly respond after the holiday.

Have a happy Thanksgiving

[CitizenPatriot]

32. I look forward to it

If you impugn someone's character with generalizations, you'd best be prepared to defend the position and not be guilty of hypocrisy. That said, I look forward to debating this issue with you respectfully and based on facts, not opinions and false fears.

Have a great Thanksgiving.

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[mrreowwr_kittty]

56. What do you think of John McCain's ties with G. Gordon Liddy?

He's someone who could definitely be described as a domestic terrorist. And talk about unrepentent! He called for Federal Agents to be shot on his radio show. McCain is a helluva lot closer to Liddy than Obama ever was to Ayers.

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[mrreowwr_kittty]

59. Not vote for people like McCain and Palin, that's for sure.

The U.S. and the entire world are in a precarious situation necessitating calm, rational, and intelligent leadership. This is no time for belligerence and bellicosity (McCain) nor religious extremism and intellectual in-curiosity (Palin) nor rigid adherence to ideology (the neocons who would control both of them). We've tried that already and the results were disastrous.

[Ignis]

37. Byeeeeee!

If you can still read this (despite your granite pizza), please research the history of Conservatism in the US...especially around the time of the "Reagan Revolution." :eyes:

Fear of change is not a good basis for a system of government. Nor is watery tarts lobbing scimitars about, but there you have it.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

55. You seriously need to stop listening to right wing radio

It kills brain cells.

[AspenRose]

25. By that logic Thomas Jefferson was a Muslim

you know, since he had a copy of the Quran and likely read the whole thing.... :eyes:

and for the last time, WHAT IS WRONG WITH BEING A MUSLIM??? :nuke:

What a dumbass

[prostock69]

43. What is wrong with being a Muslin

is the majority of Christians in this country feel the Muslims waged war against them on 9/11 which is exactly WHY we attacked Afghanistan and Iraq back. So in their minds, being a Muslim is as bad as it gets.

[AspenRose]

51. Um....

Oh, never mind. I won't even bother

[RedCappedBandit]

34. What difference does it make?

They're the same thing anyway.

[tavalon]

35. There is a more important fact

Even if he were a Muslim, which he is not, so what? Is that inherently wrong? No, it isn't. Would it be wrong if a Muslim became our President? No it wouldn't. This whole strange argument is a straw man or is it a red herring?

[greguganus]

39. Hit and run poster. Another I told/beat up/shouted down/kissed a repug. n/t

[loyalkydem]

49. You sir

do not know me so how can you call me a hit and run poster? Are you secretly a republican too but can't bring yourself to admit it? Before you go spouting your mouth off a someone look at yourself in the mirror.

I'm proud to be a democrat and when I hear people who spew lies about my President and use so called facts to back it up, I will step up and challenge their stupid backwards views.

[baldguy]

40. Anyone who actually BELIEVES this shit propaganda is a fucking loser moron idiot baby.

I'm sorry, I can't think of any more adjectives.

[Liberal_in_LA]

47. They always change the subject when challenged.

Good for you.

[loyalkydem]

50. You just

get tired of their shit after a while. I had been encouraged by so many people to stand up and fight against their smear tactics. There side has been in control for 8 years, 16 if you count the Republican control of the Senate and Congress and look where its gotten us, look where its gotten the world.

46 million people voted for John McCain? Why I ask, is it because he represents conservative values? Is it because he served in the military? My friend uses the ladder as the reason why he voted for McCain plus some stuff that he didn't really like Obama. He claims to be "a capitalist" saying crap like the Government doesn't tell me what to do with my money.

The arguments are lame and if you support shit like that, then more power to you, go live in an area where you will be comfortable with other people, leave the rest of us alone.

[CitizenPatriot]

60. well, let me say why it seems like the argument of the right makes no sense

when they are called on McCain/palin's ties with AIP, etc they say oh yes, they all suck.

OK, well, why then did you vote for them? There had to be a reason you chose them over Obama.Biden.

Experience? With McCain's age and Palin's absolute lack of experience, that doesn't work.

Rev Wright is a racist? You need to examine the word racist. This meaning has been attributed by white pundits, but if you actually use the definition of racist, you will see the person using race against another must be in the upper position. Thus, to accuse an African American in this country of being racist is hypocritical and indicates something horrific about the speaker. Judge Rev Wright after you and your family have been treated the way AA were treated and are treated here in America. Sorry, but you can't take things out of context irresponsibly like this.

Rev Muthee?

AIP?

You voted for McCain because you're a "conservative"? meaning what? fiscally? because, no, he wouldn't have been your choice if you're a fiscal conservative unless you haven't been watching other than Fox. That leaves "social conservative". Which McCain was not, but Palin was.

So if you were really voting for Palin and you used experience as a reason against Obama, you can see the failure in the logic.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

61. Obama's my Muslim faith comment gave them a lot of fuel.