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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 07:28 PM
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Talk Me Down: Anecdotal Global Warming Story

Stubborn glaciers fail to retreat, awkward polar bears continue to multiply

By Christopher Booker
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 23/11/2008


Second only to the melting of the Arctic ice and those "drowning" polar bears, there is no scare with which the global warmists, led by Al Gore, more like to chill our blood than the fast-vanishing glaciers of the Himalayas, which help to provide water for a sixth of mankind. Recently one newspaper published large pictures to illustrate the alarming retreat in the past 40 years of the Rongbuk glacier below Everest. Indian meteorologists, it was reported, were warning that, thanks to global warming, all the Himalayan glaciers could have disappeared by 2035.
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Yet two days earlier a report by the UN Environment Program had claimed that the cause of the melting glaciers was not global warming but the local warming effect of a vast "atmospheric brown cloud" hanging over that region, made up of soot particles from Asia's dramatically increased burning of fossil fuels and deforestation.
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Furthermore a British study published two years ago by the American Meteorological Society found that glaciers are only shrinking in the eastern Himalayas. Further west, in the Hindu Kush and the Karakoram, glaciers are "thickening and expanding".

Meanwhile, all last week, ITV News was running a series of wearisomely familiar scare stories on the disappearing Arctic ice and those "doomed" polar bears - without telling its viewers that satellite images now show ice cover above its 30-year average, or that polar bear numbers are at record level. But then "polar bears not drowning after all - as snow falls over large parts of Britain" doesn't really make a story.

more:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/23/do2310b.xml
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 07:32 PM
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1. Christopher Booker has been described as "the patron saint of charlatans."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/23/controversiesinscience.health

I wouldn't lose any sleep over what this asshat thinks.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 07:46 PM
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4. Ocelot, you rock.
Thanks.

I partake in other forums, and anytime I want truth on a story or it's author, I come to DU and ask.

Thanks again.

:yourock:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 07:36 PM
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2. two recent reports

There has been a recent discovery in the Puget Sound that the Ocean's absorption of CO2 is much faster than earlier believed and that it is quickly changing the acidity of the Ocean. This 7 year study which only accidentally included acidity rates showed that the muscles in the area were being wiped out and that it was going to have huge long term ecologic impact on that particular ecosystem. If the level of CO2 in the atmosphere were stabliized tomorrow the oceans would continue to absorb CO2 for decades.


There have been reports of a massive pollution cloud coming out of China heading slowly to the US.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 07:40 PM
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3.  Crews Demolish House Hanging Over Ocean. Beach Erosion Puts Plum Island Home In Danger Click here t
This just happened today...

Crews Demolish House Hanging Over Ocean. Beach Erosion Puts Plum Island Home In Danger
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 08:16 PM
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5. Thanks, Ian. n/t
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 08:45 PM
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6. It's not for nothing that the UK Telegraph is referred to as the 'Torygraph'
I view any story carried in that fishwrap as suspiciously as if it had appeared in a Richard Mellon Scaife publication.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 08:48 PM
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7. If evolution happened, why are there still monkeys?
If the world's round, how come we don't fall off?
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 08:54 PM
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8. Quit Saying, ..."talk me down"... most annoying.....
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 09:05 PM
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9. Plus there's a direct lie by Booker there:
"satellite images now show ice cover above its 30-year average"

Rubbish - it's just not quite as bad as last year - which was the worst ever:

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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 09:54 PM
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10. Read this
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