Las Vegas: 2-year-old boy killed in dog attack in northwest valley home

[marmar]

from the Las Vegas Review-Journal:



2-year-old boy killed in dog attack in northwest valley home


A 2-year-old boy was killed by one or more dogs in the northwest part of town this afternoon, according to Las Vegas police.

The mixed-breed terrier attack took place inside a home in the 6200 block of Warm River Road, near Washington Avenue and Jones Boulevard.

Police said they arrived at the scene about 4:30 p.m.

A younger sibling was present in the house during the attack but was not injured, police said.

Police, who shut off access to the block where the boy was killed, did not identify the victim.

They said the boy’s grandmother was home at the time of the attack, but offered no further details.

Police referred to the incident as a tragedy and reminded the public to take extra precautions with family pets when they’re around children.


http://www.lvrj.com/news/breaking_news/35167314.html

[Liberal_in_LA]

1. sad

[Danger Mouse]

2. OMFG PITBULLS ARE DEVIL DOGS!!!

let the flames begin!!

[SammyWinstonJack]

4. Where did it say the dog was a pit bull?

:shrug:

[katanalori]

7. It was a mixed-breed terrier.

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. So that means it was a pit bull?

:shrug:

[Danger Mouse]

13. Pitbulls eat children. Everybody knows that.

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. Okay.

:silly:

[Demobrat]

18. Not just children. Old ladies too. nt

nt

[lindbergh]

3. That's awful but people need to remember dogs are carnivores.

They will eat human infants if they get hungry enough. Large cats will too, of course.

[jrockford]

6. Curious about an instance of a cat (not tiger, lion, etc, but housecat) have a link? nt

[lindbergh]

8. No, I don't have a link handy but it shouldn't be hard to find a report of

a human being eaten by a LARGE CAT which is what I said.

[Trajan]

11. Large cats are carnivores ...

How many people have them as pets ?

Cmon .... Get real ....

Hey .... SHARKS have big teeth and powerful jaws too ...

And ? ... Should people remember that too ? ... What does that have to do with this ?

[lindbergh]

27. Uh, that's what I said. I was just mentioning the fact that leaving little tykes alone with

non-human animals isn't a real good idea. Apparently that suggestion is controversial.

[Liberal_in_LA]

10. I have heard of cats attacking people pretty viciously, not killing them. And, of course,

the person had to be physically near the cat. Never heard of a house cat chasing a human down the street to attack.

[kestrel91316]

33. I've known more than my share of cats who would indeed go OUT OF THEIR WAY

to attack a human. But it sort of goes with the territory.

I'm informally known as the vet of last resort for badly-behaved kitties, lol.

And yeah, I have heard of cats chasing people down the street. We should all thank our lucky stars it's not common.

[amdezurik]

37. google can be your friend...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_cougar_attacks_in_North_America_by_decade

[Mojorabbit]

35. Here is one

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20031218-1801-ca-hungrycats.html

[Trajan]

5. 4 attacks in Portland OR in the last 10 days ....

All Pit Bull Terriers ....

I have a solution: EVERY attack by a Pit Bull should be considered a conscious, premeditated attack by the owner ....

Dont DARE compare the Jaws of Death with the little toothpick teeth of a Chow .... Dont even ...

[Liberal_in_LA]

9. I had to look up pics of pit bull terriers... the 'terrier' part is misleading.

I call these PIT BULLS.

[Trajan]

14. There are 'official' designations available ...

Staffordshire Bull Terrier ...

American Staffordshire Terrier ...

American Pit Bull Terrier ....

All the same ....

[flvegan]

19. Oh, brother. In that case

every car accident should be considered a conscious, premeditated attempted murder by the driver.

Jesus but the stupid hurts sometimes. "Jaws of Death"...how ignorant.

[Trajan]

22. Can one park their car near a playground ...

And walk away ?

Can one unleash their pitbull terrier near a playground ...and walk away ?

You are comparing apples and oranges, and you know it ....

Cars dont 'bite' human beings on the own ....

Fallacy : False analogy

[flvegan]

23. Your pathetic analogy doesn't wash.

You would've been more accurate saying can one drive to a playground, leave the car in drive and jump out. Or, can one park their car and walk away/can one put a dog in a crate near a playground.

Learn to make a case. Get back to me then.

"Jaws of Death". Still have me rolling with that one.

[Trajan]

28. You are stretching

Cars are dangerous, and if one is negligent during operation than they can be charged with a crime ....

Premeditated ? ... Maybe I stretched a bit there, but conscious ? .... absolutely ...

ANYONE who gets into a car and operates it in such a manner as to cause harm to an individual should be held responsible for the harm caused ....

ANYONE who chooses to own a inherently dangerous breed and manages it in is such a manner as to cause harm to an individual should be held responsible for the harm caused ....

Just this week, a father heard his daughters screams coming from a backyard and found a Pit Bull terrier locked onto her thigh .... HE eventually was able to unlock the dog's jaws from her, but was immediately attacked himself ..... It took some 40 swings with a baseball bat, and an eventual gunshot from a sheriff's deputy to stop the attack ....

You know : You might think it is 'funny' ... Yuck it up big boy, and this family will instead bury their sweet little child ...

Fucking hilarious .....

You want to banter and mock about arguments ? .... Who cares .....

[flvegan]

31. Any dog can be dangerous. Your pit bull prejudice aside.

See, that's where you lose the argument. Just like you do with that bullshit Merrit Clifton report.

[Trajan]

36. ANY dog breed that can be dangerous ...

should be strictly controlled by their owners ..... who should be held CRIMINALLY responsible if their animals cause harm ....

So far: I hear you complain about that report, yet I see no specific refutation of it's numbers ....

This is linked from the CDC .... From the 'Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association'

http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf

I am not going to reformat these numbers : But it will be sufficient to note the breed, and the final number, which indicates the number of deaths caused by THAT breed during the time span of the study ... It is quite obvious from THESE numbers that the predominance of the involvement of THAT breed is a proven fact ....

Table 1—Breeds of dogs involved in human dog bite-related fatalities (DBRF) in the United States, by 2-year period, between 1979 and
1998. Death-based approach of counting most frequent purebreds and crossbreds involved in 7 or more human DBRF

Pit bull-type 2 5 10 9 11* 8 6 5 4* 6 66
Rottweiler 0 0 1 1 3 1 3 10 10 10 39
German Shepherd Dog 2 1 4* 1 1 4* 2 0 2 0 17
Husky-type 2 1 2 2 0 2 2 1 2 1 15
Malamute 2 0 3 1 0 2 3 1 0 0 12
Doberman Pinscher 0 1 0 2 2 2 1 0 0 1 9
Chow Chow 0 1 0 0 0 2 3 0 2 0 8
Great Dane 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 7
Saint Bernard 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 7
Crossbred
Wolf-dog hybrid 0 1 1 2 1 4 1 2 2 0 14
Mixed-breed 0 3 1 2 1 2 0 1 1 1 12
German Shepherd Dog 0 2 0 2 2 2† 0 1 2 0 10†
Pit bull-type 0 1 0 3 2† 3 1 1 0 0 10†
Husky-type 0 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 6
Rottweiler 0 0 0 0 1† 1 0 1 1 2 5†
Alaskan Malamute 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 3
Chow Chow 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 3
Doberman Pinscher 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0
Saint Bernard 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1
Great Dane 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1† 0†
No. deaths for which 10 20 26* 24 22 34* 24 25 26* 27 238
breed was known
*Numbers differ from previous reports because police/guard dogs "at work" were excluded, and 1 new DBRF was identified as occurring in 1996. †A purebred dog
and a crossbred dog of this breed were involved in a single fatality; therefore, that breed is counted only once in the total column.

------

Whenever anyone complains about the vicious attacks of Pit Bull terriers, the Pit Bull apologists come out in force and begin their own attack .....

Well ... That's fine and dandy .... My 'emotion' is borne by the misery of human suffering .... WE are justified to indict THAT breed of dog as being naturally, innately and inherently dangerous ....

THAT is my point: If you KNOW that nature has endowed that breed with superior killing skills AND an erratic personality, and you STILL choose to own one, then yes: YOU should be held utterly and completely responsible for the harm it causes ....

Criminal ? .... depends .....

But I am done with this: The data shows you are wrong, and that Pit Bulls are in fact IMMENSELY dangerous, and no amount of public hectoring or insult thrown by YOU or ANYONE else can change that ....

[flvegan]

39. You know why the CDC stopped gathering that data?

It was deemed horribly inaccurate. That comes down from the veterinary industry, animal welfare organizations and the CDC itself.

Try again.

[Trajan]

41. I trust those organizations

Before I trust a vicious little soul in DU ...

See ya, Fly Boy ....

[flvegan]

43. "Those organizations" back what I'm saying

Jesus, you really have nothing. At all.

"Vicious little soul" who at least knows what the fuck he's talking about.

[FedUpWithIt All]

49. I "babysat" a gorgeous, gentle and extremely well behaved pit for a relative

a couple of weeks ago. I ADORE the dog. I am really terribly smitten by him. The dog was completely responsive and extremely intelligent. Just a wonderful animal.

BUT...I have a 10 month old son. My son does not know and cannot be told not to stare directly at the dog. You cannot tell him that the arm waving comes off as a form of teasing to the dog. While the dog was in my home i was hyper-vigilant, as i would be with ANY new animal, and it was clear that the dog and the boy were not hitting it off. It would not be possible for me to maintain a young child and that dog full time. It is difficult to separate an animal and a child every time you need to wash your hands, get the infant wipes from the next room, need to pee...day in and day out. And then tragedies happen.

Pit-bulls CAN BE wonderful dogs under the correct circumstances. But i do not believe it is always terrible negligence that causes these tragedies. Occasionally it is simply a bad family dynamic. I think we do these dogs AND their rep a disservice when we are disingenuous regarding the conflicts that might occur between the breed and young children. If we are clear and upfront about the problems we can begin to ensure that these tragedies do not keep happening, resulting in more of these animals being killed.

[flvegan]

51. Replace "pit bull" with "any dog" and you have a good post.

Otherwise, it's really just biased shit. Sorry.

[FedUpWithIt All]

52. I babysat a PITBULL. So i was speaking about a PITBULL. Your call if you want to consider my view.

[Shoelace]

26. the worst part is their jaws lock

when they bite so it's really difficult to pry them loose. That from a friend who had one years ago. I was especially saddened to see that little girl with her legs all bitten up. It took 2 grown men (one had a baseball bat) to pry that Pit Bull loose from the girl and then a policeman had to shoot it if I remember correctly.
The one yesterday was 2 pit bulls killing 2 other, smaller dogs and injuring a 3rd. The fence they jumped to get at the other dogs was about 6 ft. high too.
A policeman shot one of the pit bulls, the other got away.
Honestly, I'm afraid to take my little dog for a walk now because our mailman said he's seen a couple of stray pit bulls recently.
I wonder if pepper spray would be good to carry?

[flvegan]

32. Jesus, the stupid hurts.

Their jaws DON'T FUCKING LOCK. I swear, I'm amazed at what people buy into when ignorance permeates the MSM.

[Shoelace]

54. ha, I've seen their jaws "lock"

and lock might not be the best term for it but our friend demonstrated this years ago with his Pit Bull for us. He threw an object (I think it was a piece of wood) which the dog caught and brought to him. He proceeded to lift the dog up, twirl him around gently for a few minutes and that dog never let go.
Technically their jaws don't actually lock but they do have the strongest bite grip of any dog breed as well as any mammal in the animal kingdom.
They have an up-front generated bite strength (capacity) of anywhere between 2,000 PSI - 2,600 PSI. There have been reports of these numbers even hitting the 3,000's in provocation sustained tests using a PSI measuring sleeve. Even 2,000 PSI can crush a human skull, very easily.
PLUS, they have one of the highest pain thresholds in the dog kingdom which is of course why they are used in fighting. They will fight to the death even with missing limbs, eyes, etc and never back down.

To me, these facts make this breed way too dangerous to be just roaming the streets and before you call someone stupid, do some research yourself.
They probably make wonderful pets if trained right but have a propensity to turn on their masters as well as attacking unprovoked.
I don't watch MSM btw.

[FedUpWithIt All]

50. Their jaws do not really lock. They are just very strong and very tenacious. n/t

[PurityOfEssence]

45. I'll go for that

Every attack by ANY dog should be considered an attack by its owner. Why shouldn't it? Shouldn't people be responsible for their actions?

Some of us who were attacked by dogs when very young have SERIOUS problems with the little creatures, and the groupthink tolerance of them often goes way overboard. Sure, many get great comfort from them, and so do the dogs, but many are monsters, just like their owners.

The more damning aspect of your proposal is right on the money: this is premeditated. To keep an animal whose disposition is known to be violent is an act of deliberate violence. To keep an animal whose character is unknown is an act of extreme negligence in the face of knowledge of the inherent violence of the species.

There's a deep sociopathy at work here, and the act of either training an animal to hurt humans or tolerate their proclivity to do so is a disregard for the lives of one's fellow humans.

Dogs are like religion: fun for some, deadly for others, and FAR too tolerated.

[charlie]

53. Exactly

My dog is a 70-lb boxer-something mutt, so the mere sight of him doesn't signal "friendly" to most people. He's never been in public off a leash and he's never unattended when he's pooping in the back yard. A dog is a responsibility, like owning a firearm with legs and intelligence. And the business end of ANY dog is dangerous, no matter the size or breed.

My dog is genial and well behaved, but it's not incumbent on anyone to recognize that, especially in an unattended encounter. Free roaming or negligibly secured dogs are a crime of public intimidation and menace, and owners should be penalized accordingly, something that happens too rarely where I live.

[Edweird]

16. I wonder why we only hear about pit bull attacks here.... even though

the reality is that there are fewer pit bull attacks, bites and deaths than other breeds....
Hmmmm....

[xchrom]

17. german shepherds for instance.

there is an emotional agenda here.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

21. I'm ready to shoot any breed attacking any family member of mine.

Wouldn't be a first for me.

Keep your dogs tied.

[xchrom]

46. oh i'm sure you like to shoot dogs. lots of people do.

you join an inglorious crew.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

55. I used to watch out the door over a

sister walking home from Mom and Dads house, there was always this lab running loose in the neighborhood that would go after her. I shot that dog with a Pellet gun probably 30 times. It'd yap and run home. 30X! Stoopid animal. Maybe it was one of those inbreed things. This was 25 years ago. I could nail this thing with a shot from the hip, it gave me great target shooting experience. (note: never hit my sister)
I know a pellet gun would be useless with a pittbull, these creatures require something else.

[Trajan]

20. You are simply wrong ....

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

The deadliest dogs

Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, has conducted an unusually detailed study of dog bites from 1982 to the present. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006; click here to read it.) The Clifton study show the number of serious canine-inflicted injuries by breed. The author's observations about the breeds and generally how to deal with the dangerous dog problem are enlightening.

According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:

If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price.

Clifton's opinions are as interesting as his statistics. For example, he says, "Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be handled with special precautions, but also must be regulated with special requirements appropriate to the risk they may pose to the public and other animals, if they are to be kept at all."

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf

Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada
September 1982 to November 13, 2006

REPEAT: According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings.

(Sorry about the formatting : copied from PDF)

Breed : Attacks (doing bodily harm): Child : Adult : Deaths : Maimings : Notes

Akita 48 32 14 1 39
Akita mix (inspecific) 1 1 0 0 1
Akita/Chow mix 3 3 0 0 3
Akita/Lab mix 1 1 0 0 1
Akita/terrier mix 2 1 0 0 1
Airedale/boxer 1 1 0 1 0 #
Airedale 1 1 0 1 0
Australian blue heeler 3 1 1 0 2
Australian cattle dog 1 1 0 0 1
Australian shepherd 6 4 0 0 1
Basset/GSD mix 1 1 0 1 0
Beagle 2 2 0 1 1 #
Belgian shepherd 4 1 3 0 1
Blue heeler 2 0 1 0 1
Border collie 1 0 1 1 1 #
Briard 2 0 1 1 0
Brittany spaniel 4 1 0 0 1
Bulldog (American 4 0 3 2 2
Bulldog (English) 16 8 3 1 9
Bull mastiff (Presa Canario) 30 10 13 6 16
Bull mastiff/German shepherd 2 1 0 1 0
Buff mastiff/Rottweiler 1 1 0 0 1
Boxer 31 6 12 2 12 #
Boxer mix 1 1 0 1 0
Cane Corso 4 1 2 1 3
Catahoula 3 0 1 0 1
Chow 49 34 12 6 32
Chow/husky mix 2 2 0 1 1
Chow/Labrador mix 4 4 0 0 3
Chox mix (other) 2 2 0 0 2
Cocker spaniel 1 1 0 0 1
Collie 3 3 0 0 3
Collie/retriever mix 1 1 0 0 1
Coonhound 1 1 0 0 0
Page 2 of 7
Dalmatian 3 3 0 0 3
Dalmatian/Akita mix 1 1 0 0 1
Dauschund 2 1 1 1 2 #
Doberman 11 7 4 3 7 #
Doge de Bordeaux 2 1 0 0 1
East Highland terrier 1 0 1 1 0 #
Fila Brasiero 1 1 0 0 1
German shepherd 63 42 17 7 38
German shepherd mix 31 21 7 6 19 #
German shepherd/husky mix 4 3 1 1 2
Golden retriever 6 6 0 1 4 #
Great Dane 24 5 4 2 9
Great Pyranees 1 0 1 1 0
Greyhound 1 1 0 0 1
Husky 39 23 4 13 8
Husky/Malamute mix 2 2 0 0 2
Husky/Labrador mix 1 0 1 0 1
Jack Russell terrier 2 1 1 1 0 #
Labrador 26 18 9 2 20 #
Labrador mix 10 9 1 0 9 #
Labrador/boxer mix 1 0 1 0 0
Lab-Doberman 1 1 0 0 1
Lab-St. Bernard 1 1 0 0 1
Malamute 8 7 1 3 3
Mastiff 16 11 4 4 9
Norwegian elkhound 1 0 1 0 1 #
Pit bull terrier 1110 495 397 104 608 #
Pit bull boxer mix 5 1 2 0 2
Pit bull/chow mix 5 2 3 1 3
Pit bull/Doberman/GSD/Lab 2 2 0 0 2
Pit bull/GSD mix 1 1 0 0 1
Pit bull/Lab mix 15 10 4 3 8 #
Pit bull/Rott. mix 39 7 3 2 8
Pit bull/Sheltie mix 1 1 0 0 1
Pit bull/Weimaraner mix 1 0 1 0 1
Pit mix unknown 3 2 0 0 2
Pointer mix 1 0 1 0 0 #
Pomeranian 1 1 0 1 0
Poodle 2 1 1 0 2 #
Pug 1 1 0 0 1
Pug/Rottweiler mix 2 1 0 1 0
Queensland heeler 3 0 1 0 1
Rottweiler 409 231 109 58 223 #
Rottweiler/chow mix 1 1 0 0 1
Rottweiler/GSD mix 13 7 5 2 10
Rottweiler/Labrador 7 6 1 0 7
Russian terrier 1 0 1 0 1
Saint Bernard 6 3 0 1 1
Sharpei 4 4 0 0 4
Sharpei/Rottweiler 2 1 0 0 1
Sharpei/unknown mix 1 1 0 0 1
Sharpei/Labrador 1 1 0 0 1
Springer spaniel 3 4 0 0 4
Tosa 1 1 0 0 1
Weimaeaner 1 1 0 0 1
Wheaten terrier 2 1 0 0 1
Wolf hybrid 71 65 3 18 43 #
Total: 2209 1142 658 264 1323

[flvegan]

24. Yes, finally! The bullshit Merrit Clifton report.

Did you see where the data on this came from? Seriously. Either you didn't, or you're an idiot. Choose one.

[Trajan]

38. According to the CDC and JAVMA

The Journal of American Veterinary Medical Association

http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf

The same pure breeds and mixed breeds as defined in the Clifton study account for over 56% of deaths, per the JAVMA study ....

Methinks thou doth protest too much .... The numbers are STILL overwhelming ....

Notwithstanding your outrageous and insulting personal attacks against me, we are done ....

[flvegan]

40. See post #39.

Yeah, we may well be done because your Googling sucks.

[Trajan]

42. See post #41

Your ridiculous, vehement denials have strengthened my belief that Pit Bull terriers are inherently dangerous breeds that should be restricted ....

Go ahead ... Insult me again .... THAT'll work ...

[flvegan]

44. Your responses are insult enough for you.

I don't need to pile on.

[Liberal_in_LA]

25. Picture of Presa Canarios

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

29. 30 ot 6 would take care of this just fine. My kid has it up at Camp, thou.

Deer hunting season here.
Daddy promised me his German Mauser. One of these days....

[xchrom]

48. of course your DADDY promised you -- and you'll go hunting dogs.

frightening that you've bred.

[kestrel91316]

34. Back when I worked on dogs, Rottweilers were the only breed I was

downright afraid of. And that developed as a result of one two many exam room attacks, it did not precede them.

[Johonny]

30. Im sure someone will blame Vick

for this

[dana_b]

47. how horrible for this family

I can't imagine the pain that they must be going through.

As far as the dog goes - yes, it may be a pitt bull terrier mix however I've read a few stories where they automaitcally say the dog was a pit bull and then it was another breed. This story did not do that - good for them.
That happened here in the Bay Area a while back. A family "pit bull" attacked and killed a baby in San Jose. A couple of days later they reported it was a boxer. Pit bull, boxer - what's the difference, right? They didn't correct what they had said, just said it was a boxer in the follow up story.

I'm not denying that pits can be dangerous dogs but I do believe they are scapegoated sometimes and the "bad" ones are almost always a result of bad and/or ignorant owners. They can be so loyal and loving if trained correctly and treated well.
I do admit, however, that I am biased as I own a pit/beagle mix that is a love and is very gentle.