Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Stupid question? What/when was the last major cancer/illness that was cured?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
mymessageboardid Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:00 AM
Original message
Stupid question? What/when was the last major cancer/illness that was cured?
Was having a conversation with a friend today about healthcare. It's obvious that "treating" illness is much more profitable than curing it. Is my tinfoil hat too tight?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:03 AM
Response to Original message
1. There hasn't been one that was generally 'cured' in my lifetime.
we can't even cure the common cold or flu. Athletes foot, maybe. Nothing else though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:04 AM
Response to Original message
2. Polio maybe?
I think.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:06 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. That one is on the way back in some places of the world
now Smallpox is fully contained, for the moment
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mymessageboardid Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:07 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. Yea
And that was over 50 years ago. Geeez!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:07 AM
Response to Original message
4. Stupidity
No wait... Nevermind.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:08 AM
Response to Original message
6. Ulcers
Ulcers have been cured in my lifetime.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:46 AM
Response to Reply #6
15. I call BS on that one
Ulcers are very difficult to treat. I've had peptic ulcer disease that hasn't responded to any of the bullshit "treatments" they've given me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:09 AM
Response to Original message
7. There may not have been a cure - but they have developed
treatments that have increased survivability.

I know several people who have had cancer,and after treatment are still living - apparently cancer-free. I don't know anyone who has died from cancer, yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:18 AM
Response to Original message
8. My mother died of multiple myeloma in 1977 after a two year struggle with it.
At the time, it was incurable. Martha Mitchell also died of it. Bone marrow transplants can give it a good chance of remission and cure since then. I forget the year that this became possible, but it was after 1977.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:18 AM
Response to Original message
9. McCainitis November 4, 2008
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:20 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. HA!
;-) Good one
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:22 AM
Response to Original message
11. I don't know what the answer is, but this conversation deserves more attention. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hanse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:31 AM
Response to Original message
12. Well, there's restless leg syndrome.
A lot of people will think I'm joking. But if you look it up, you'll find out it's an actual problem, suffered by thousands, and now there's treatment.

Statin drugs are big deal if you know anybody with heart problems.

Gardasil will save thousands of lives due to cervical cancer. HPV is certainly a major disease, regardless of what various cranks will have to say about it.

HIV was a death sentence just a few years ago. Now people have at least a hope thanks to certain drug cocktails. HIV infections can actually be prevented in emergencies if a patient is exposed to the virus using the same cocktails.

Not sure when cis-platin came on the market, but you can treat testicular cancer with 100% efficacy, if you catch it early enough.

Paclitaxel's been studied for decades, but it's application is pretty new.

There are a number of new anti-malarials saving thousands of lives.

There are even some new anti-leprosy drugs while we're on the third-world tangent.

I'm pretty sure Parkinsons and Alzheimers life expectency after diagnoses has been extended, as well as healthspan. Certainly a number of cancer patients are better off then they were twenty years ago.

Just yesterday they announced that for the first time cancer rates are going down. Certainly due to anti-smoking measures, but there's been solid advances in medicine.

Shall I continue? Or is that good?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mymessageboardid Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. Thx for replying....
Glad I caught this post before I head off for bed.

That is my point though. Everything you listed is "treating" the illness/cancer. I am not discounting discoveries that extend life or make people more comfortable. But if a doctor or scientist discovered an ACTUAL cure for Alzheimers tomorrow (a pill you could take that CURED it), would we ever find out about it? Given the millions and millions of boomers that are expected to develop that disease, therefore needed treatment for many years, a cure would destroy the profits of that "treatment." Maybe I'm just being too cynical?


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hanse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:45 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. Hey, if you've got a cure for Alzheimers or cancer, let's see it.
"Maybe I'm just being too cynical?"

You're not being cynical, you're just being, to put it politely, silly.

If some doctor cured Alzheimers then he wouldn't keep it secret. Even the cynic would realize it would make that doctor, or drug company, the richest bastard on the planet. Or, alternatively if he sat on a cure, libel for the biggest negligence lawsuit in judicial history, if not a criminal case. Then, of course, there's the practical problem with keeping hundreds of mad scientists' mouths shut.

So are you too cynical? Nope. Not too cynical.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mymessageboardid Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:52 AM
Response to Reply #14
16. OK, you mentioned the HIV/AIDS cocktail
I just did a quick search and those drugs cost between $10-15K per year, per patient in the US. So if someone at Merck stumbled upon an actual CURE for HIV/AIDS....a pill that would actually CURE, not treat - they would make that information known to the public? Merck is about making MONEY. Why sell one pill that cures HIV/AIDS, when you can sell a cocktail for $10-15K per month to treat it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:52 AM
Response to Original message
17. Check this out.

http://www.infusionclinic.com/infusions-ascorbic.html

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. I have never undergone these therapies. I do not know if they work.

Doctors who cure cancer with simple treatments such as IV vitamin C, IV baking soda are generally hounded and have their medical licenses revoked.

http://www.bamboo-delight.com/download/Cure_Cancer_with_Baking_Soda.htm

http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/therapy-simoncini.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 03:18 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. I think that for some cancers the treatments may end up being simple, but
The problem is at this stage of the game, someone says "A doctor treated me with Vitamin C to cure my cancer and it worked, so it should work for you too."

We are all deficient differently in the minerals and vitamins that we have in our systems. For instance, I have chronic shortage of iron, my husband has an overload of iron. He craves oatmeal, which depletes iron from your system, while I abhor it. (Sort of an inner resposnse to what we should be eating.)

Doctors know nowadays that some prostate cancer is fast acting, and some slow acting. They no longer encourage men over a certain age to undergo surgery, if it is the slowly developping type of cancer, knowing that they will be dead of old age before the cancer woul ddo them in.

I imagine they will find out that more cancers are like those.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 03:15 AM
Response to Original message
18. Not cured as such but a revolution in treatment
for CML chronic myeliod leukemia a drug called Gleevec it stops the production cancerous white blood cells before they start. I worked in one of clinics were the trials for this drug were done back then it was known as STI 538 and have seen the results for patients.

http://www.gleevec.com/info/ag/index.jsp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 03:27 AM
Response to Original message
20. Abolished, or cured in most cases?
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 03:28 AM by LeftishBrit
There are many diseases now that were incurable in the past, that are now usually cured.

Childhood leukemia, for example, was virtually always fatal in the 1960s. Nowadays, about 80% of patients are cured. Hodgkins disease, which was fatal in the past, is also usually cured nowadays. Many other cancers, including breast and colon cancer, also have much higher cure rates than in the past.

Abolition or near-abolition of diseases is more likely to involve prevention than cure. So far as I know, the only disease that has been absolutely abolished is smallpox, in the 1970s. But many other diseases such as polio and diphtheria are much rarer than in the past, and are abolished in some places.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 09:16 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC