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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:35 AM
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Mumbai attacks may destabilise Pakistan: study
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008%5C11%5C29%5Cstory_29-11-2008_pg7_16


Mumbai attacks may destabilise Pakistan: study

* Stratfor says India, US will have joint interest in forcing Pakistan to act decisively and immediately
* Private forecaster stresses holding Pakistan responsible still an assumption, but India likely to blame foreign quarters

By Iftikhar Gilani

NEW DELHI: Pakistan may face ‘massive destabilisation’ under pressure from India and the US as fallout of the serial terror attacks in Mumbai, a Texas-based private research agency has warned, and the attacks may also bring India and Pakistan back to the brink of a nuclear confrontation – a reference to a military standoff between the two countries in 2002 after a terrorist attack on Indian parliament.

In an analysis on the geo-political fallout of the Mumbai attacks, Strategic Forecasting (Stratfor) says, “If the attacks in Mumbai were carried out by Islamist militants – as it appears – the Indian government will have little choice, politically speaking, but to blame them on Pakistan. That will in turn spark a crisis between the two nuclear rivals that will draw the US into the fray.”

Stressing that India is already under enormous pressure to respond to the attacks, it said, “Events point to a serious crisis not simply between Pakistan and India, but within Pakistan as well – with the government caught between foreign powers and domestic realities.”

Stratfor – which specialises in providing focused insight and actionable intelligence to help governments prepare for uncertainties – says the Indians will have no choice but to be assertive, and the US is likely to follow suit.

Joint interest: “Whether it is the current government in India that reacts or the one that succeeds doesn’t matter ... given the circumstances, massive destabilisation (of Pakistan) is possible – (which is) never a good thing with a nuclear power,” says the Stratfor analysis. It says the Indians and Americans would have a ‘joint interest’ in forcing the Pakistani government ‘to act decisively and immediately’.

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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:17 AM
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1. One benefit to the Islamic militants is that India and Pakistan will clash in Kashmir
which will draw the Pakistani army out of the "tribal areas" and into the confrontation with India. This would ease pressure on the militants theres.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:43 AM
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2. Strategy of Tension™
Different continent. Same idea.



Staying Behind

NATO’s Terror Network


EXCERPT...

At the same time George K. Young, deputy head of MI6 until
1961, was working in conjunction with General George Walker to
set up a network "to meet the contingency of a total political
break down". This network, called the Unison Committee for Action
(Unison), was set up in early 1973 and its existence announced to
the press in July 1974. This seems to have dissolved into another
organization fronted by Walker, known as Civil Assistance. Ross
McWhirter was very involved in Walker's activities, and
subsequently went on to play a key role in the National
Association for Freedom (or Freedom Association as it is now
known). At around the same time (May 1974), SAS founder David
Stirling, who described Unison as "apparently highly militaristic
and very right wing nature", was proposing a broadly similar
group to be called GB75 and was consulting with contacts in the
armed forces, industry and the Tory Party.

Colin Wallace says British Intelligence provided covert
assistance to Unison; Civil Assistance and GB75. However, the
extent and even existence of such "patriotic groups", other than
on paper, is a matter of debate. Wallace and others have
described them as psychological operations. By this we understand
that talk of such measures channelled through the media was
intended to heighten the sense of social breakdown and of the
"red" threat, particularly in 1974.

The full story of such concerns in the British establishment
during this period has probably yet to emerge. Whether the use of
overtly fascist groups in a "strategy of tension" was
contemplated is unknown. But clearly, in a period when the Tory
Party was in disarray, under a "weak" leader; with mass
industrial unrest and a so-called socialist party coming to
power, the extreme right of the Tory Party, together with
elements in industry, the military and the secret services, were
looking to a non-parliamentary solution to preserve their
interests. In the end, however, the election of Mrs. Thatcher to
leadership of the Tory Party and the 1979 election victory
ensured the success of their aims, probably beyond their
expectations, by a different and "legitimate" route.

The most important lesson to be learnt from the Gladio
story; the whole Stay Behind network and the situation in Britain
during the 70s is that the right-wing establishment will, quite
literally, stop at nothing to prevent a popular anti-capitalist
movement (or one perceived as such) displacing it from power. In
such a context the establishment will happily make use of fascist
groups, whether as unwitting dupes (via the secret services), or
as direct allies - after all, if the choice is stark enough,
classical fascist ideology has more than enough in common with
that of the right-wing establishment.

SOURCE: http://www.etext.org/Politics/Arm.The.Spirit/Antifa/gladio



Different victims. Same beneficiaries.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:50 AM
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3. Marking territory of this newly impassioned soul, that's what you have done Mr. Fish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlYrOBvt9IQ

Roll away your stone
I"ll roll away mine
Together we can see what we will find
Don't leave me alone at this time
I'm afraid of what I will discover inside

You told me that I would find a home
Within the fragile substance of my soul
And I have filled this void with things unreal
and all the while my character it steals
Darkness is a harsh term you think?
Yet it dominates the things I seek
It seems that all my bridges have been burned
But you say that's exactly how this grace thing works
It's not the long walk home that will change this heart
but the welcome I recieve with the restart

Darkness is a harsh term, don't you think?
Yet it dominates the things I see
This Darkness is a harsh term don't you think?
Yet it dominates the things I see

Stars hide your fires
These here are my desires
I will give them up to you this time around
and so I'll be found
The stake stuck in this ground
Marking territory of this newly impassioned soul
You, you've gone to far this time
You have neither reason or rhyme
With which to take this soul that is so rightfully mine
You've gone to far this time
You have neither reason or rhyme
With which to take this soul that is so rightfully mine
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