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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:54 PM
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Remind me DU, when was the last time a corporation was held accountable for anything?
Enron?

Exxon?

Imperial Sugar?

Genwal Resources?

Anyone?

Please post the last time it's happened, I really cannot remember.

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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:55 PM
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1. Got me...
nt
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:00 PM
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2. I can't remember either, which is why I asked. Maybe someone else does. n/t
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:00 PM
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3. Union Carbide in Bophal
sort of
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:14 PM
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15. You are kidding, right? Good Lord, that is the singular story
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:02 PM
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4. HERE IS WHY.. waste of time.. any fine or legal monatary penalty is written off their taxes..
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:03 PM
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5. I'm asking when was the last time any company was held accountable.
Not, what we expect a corporation to do to avoid responsibility.

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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:05 PM
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6. under Bush II, many were held accountable
accountable for trying to obstruct his illegal policies, that is.

For example, QWEST was held accountable for opposing illegal wiretaps:

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/qwest-ceo-nsa-punished-qwest-refusing-participate-illegal-surveillance-pre-9-11
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:06 PM
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7. Well, there ya go!
NOT!

LOL!

Thanks for posting this, maybe it will stop the anti-unionists before they start!

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:12 PM
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14. Bingo!
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:09 PM
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8. never happened. public hand-slap & hand-wringing, on to the next con,
the next murder, the next theft.

since the beginning of the corporation, back in the days of the "india" companies & the crown corporations.

i swear we live most of our lives in dreams, manufactured by our masters.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:10 PM
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11. Do you know if any corporation has ever been sued/boycotted out of existence? n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:10 PM
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9. Hardly ever it seems. Maybe Exxon for a while for the Valdez oil spill, but
it seems they got away Scot free too.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:12 PM
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13. Yup, they appeal and appeal until they get the verdict they want. That's not justice. n/t
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:26 PM
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22. And they drag it on so long, most of the plaintiffs will be dead before there's any reckoning.
Corporations don't have life expectancies to deal with.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:54 PM
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27. Exactly.
And far too many laws that favor non-people over people.

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:59 PM
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28. I blame the lawyers and judges more than corporations.
Just look at the Ken Lay case. The courts allowed that to drag on and on so long that Kenny Boy died before he could be sentenced. And that being the case, any judgment against Lay's estate was null and void. His heirs will forever wallow in luxury thanks to the slow ass courts and the dumbass law that let Lay's widow and children keep the millions he stole.

Any delay of justice is injustice itself.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:24 PM
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30. The lawyers do what they're hired to do.
The judges have to be fair.

The corporations on the other hand, manipulate the system for the greatest profit.

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:02 PM
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31. I'm for being fair.
It is not fair for lawyers to seek, and for judges to grant, endless delays for no good reason.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:04 PM
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32. They cannot deny any for no good reason either.
The corporations manipulate the system for their benefit.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:10 PM
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10. Well, back when we had a real FDA, there were several
--Tylenol (over tamper proof packaging post cyanide scare) and again over warnings related to acetaminophen and heavy alcohol use
--Many meat producers over E. coli 0157:H7 outbreaks (mandatory recalls and closures) Hudson's is one....
--Other food producers have as well

as a start...


But given the anti-regulatory nature of the past 8 years and the Bush I and Reagan years, far too little.


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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:11 PM
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12. Oh, yeah, I remember when we had an FDA. n/t
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:18 PM
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16. Chiquita Brands and Massey Energy
The former got a monetary slap on the wrist for doing business with known terrorists in Colombia and the latter got hundreds of millions of dollars in mine safety fines reduced to twenty million. In both cases, human beings died as a direct and proximate result of intentional corporate conduct.

In the same vein, Wal-Mart will probably even contest the dead man's worker's comp, citing his status as a "temp" worker.


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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:20 PM
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17. "contest the dead man's worker's comp, citing his status as a "temp" worker."
Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing.

And on the day that comes down, people will still be in the stores throwing money at them.

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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:45 PM
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19. Welcome to "Consumerism,"
America's true religion, with its own Holy Profit.


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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:22 PM
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18. I don't consider slap on the wrist fines justice.
That's what happened to Exxon and it was shameful.

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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:02 PM
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21. Exxon even got the punitive award overturned
by the SCOTUS, didn't they? Just in the last year?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:49 PM
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24. What I remember was that the award was lowered.
I don't think the entire thing was overturned.

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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:06 PM
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29. Lowered enough to be meaningless
Yeah. That sounds about right.


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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:46 PM
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20. your question is really impossable for any layman to answer .. so i just Googled it..>>Link>>
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 08:03 PM by sam sarrha
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:50 PM
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25. Some DUers are not laymen! n/t
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:32 PM
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23. How do you define "corporation"?
It can be a multi-national conglomerate or it could be as small as a one man farming operation.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:51 PM
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26. Good point. I mean multi-national conglomerates not a one-guy kind of thing. n/t
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