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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:20 PM
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Fundies desperately trying to stoke the flames of the "War on Christmas"
Perhaps these mental midgets don't realize the economy has already waged a successful war on Christmas? :dunce:



from the American Family Association's (your War on the War on Christmas headquarters) OneNewsNow:



School calendar ignores 'Christmas Day'
Pete Chagnon - OneNewsNow - 12/22/2008 8:40:00 AM


A Tennessee mom is upset that political correctness is stepping on her daughter's religious freedom.

Lonnie Nelson is the mother of Madison, a fourth-grade girl at Stone Elementary School in Crossville, Tennessee. Recently Madison brought home a school calendar which had "Happy Hanukkah" on December 22 and "Happy Kwanzaa" on December 26. But all the calendar had on December 25 was a picture of Santa Claus and the word "Holiday."

"The issue with the calendar did concern me because I felt like...if you're going to recognize Kwanzaa and you're going to recognize Hanukkah, go ahead and recognize Christmas as well; don't leave that out," Nelson states. "Because if their concern is offending someone, I was offended that my holiday was left out."

The calendar did mention a Christmas program held at the school on December 16, but Nelson notes that was only for kindergarten through second grade. She adds that the calendar also refers to Christmas break as the "winter holidays."

"If it was a Jewish child or a child of a different faith, and they were held back from celebrating Christmas or their holiday wasn't recognized, I think there would have been much more of an outcry," the Tennessee mom suggests. "But for us (Christians) it almost has become commonplace; and my concern is that we (not be) picked on."

Both Nelson and OneNewsNow have contacted the school, which by press time had returned neither of those contacts.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=362974 (if Rick-rolled by the Christian soldiers, you can find this story in the onenewsnow area of www.afa.net )




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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:23 PM
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1. They have a point.
I'm just saying. Why mention the other holidays by name, but not Christmas?
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:27 PM
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3. If the holiday is on December 25, why have a "Christmas" program
on December 16? Why insist that the entire week between Christmas and New Year's be deemed "Christmas break?" After all, isn't that attempting to shove the celebration of one holiday over all others? And if this mother is so concerned, why isn't she asking about the schools being closed for Kwanzaa and Hanukkah instead of, as she claims, the poor persecuted "Christian" holiday?
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:42 PM
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5. Because the kids are in school Dec. 16.
Edited on Mon Dec-22-08 08:43 PM by madeline_con
Maybe the schools are closed for Kwanzaa and Hanukkah. They are here. We were going to have to go today and tommorrow for hurricane make-up, but it was rescinded. I wouldn't be at all freaked if it had something to do with Hanukkah beginning today.

Her beef is that the actual name of the holiday isn't mentioned but the names of the others are. that's all, she never attacked the other faiths.

speel edit
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:25 PM
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2. Poor martyred Tennessee Christians...
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:36 PM
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4. I'd notice the omission too.
It does strike me as odd and I'm not even a Christian.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:47 PM
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6. It does seem a little odd that the other holidays were mentioned but not Christmas.
Edited on Mon Dec-22-08 09:19 PM by alphafemale
There are plenty of better things to get upset about though.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 09:18 PM
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7. Yeah, it's stupid.
If the other holidays are mentioned by name, there's nothing wrong with mentioning Christmas by name. Call the break a "winter holiday break," by all means, to be all-inclusive, but call December 25 Christmas, because that's what it is. It's not "Holiday." That's going overboard and only gives more ammunition to the war-on-Christmas nuts because it DOES single Christmas out and imply that somehow it's offensive to even give it a name.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 09:33 PM
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9. Was WInter Solstice mentioned? Or Festivus? nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 09:38 PM
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11. THey might have run out of room for Festivus
this year it came the same day as Hanukah... not that Hanukah is a major holiday either...
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 09:50 PM
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13. An interesting link re Festivus. There has been such a celebration
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 09:53 PM
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14. i know must like Hanukkah, they are the oldest two celebrations in the
December calendar

And both suck for Madison ave....

One is a celebration of freedom and miracles ( and magical thinking)

The other a celebration of life in the middle of the dead of winter

It is funny that neither is a commercial holiday, even if Madison Ave has tried HARD to commercialize Hanukah
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 09:50 PM
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12. I actually decorated my work space for Festifus.
I'm a UU. Don't really consider myself a Christian in the standard sense. But I do think it a tad odd when mentioning Christmas seems to be deliberately avoided.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 09:58 PM
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15. I am a non believer. My sister, an Episcopalian, expressed
surprise that I return Christmas or any other greeting with apparent glee. I think it's nice when folks are genuinely happy/cheerful, and think it's rude to 'rain on their parade' if the extend happy greetings of any sort - secular or religious. There's enough misery going around, why add to it.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 09:27 PM
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8. She has a point, I'll grant
However, this could also serve as an object lesson in exclusion. Certainly other places recognize Christmas to the exclusion of other holidays; this is how it feels to them.

In the universe of "problems," however, this hardly seems like even a minor dwarf star on the periphery of a remote galaxy.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 09:36 PM
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10. She's got a point
and that was a mistake from the school

Though the reason for the season is truly Macy's, but that's besides the point
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