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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:25 AM
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OK, So, WTF Is The Dilio W/ This Pardon Revokation????
First, man, that shit is ICE COLD! Imagine, getting the word you're being pardoned and then WHAMMO! Damn! That's some cruel ass shit!

What the hell is really going on here? Chimpy did NOT all of a sudden get a conscience and decide not to pardon him because of the campaign contributions. I mean those contributions were probably WHY the pardon was issued in the first place. :shrug:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:27 AM
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1. I'm not altogether sure what the dumbfuck did is even legal.
I thought a pardon was absolute.

:shrug:

As far as WHY he is trying to revoke it, I reckon it's embarrassment over some other crap they guy did (maybe not even revealed so far).
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:27 AM
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2. another post said that the pardon would be impeachable
because of the campaign contributions.

I doubt Bush wants to give the Dems any possible chance of impeaching him any time in the near future.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:28 AM
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3. "Dilio" or "Dildo"?
:shrug:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:28 AM
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Whatever Floats Your Boat!
:evilgrin:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:37 AM
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6. I hear ya! Nice comeback.
:evilgrin:
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:28 AM
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4. The case got hyped in the blogs and word got back to Bush
They probably thought no one was watching over the holidays.

One thing to think about. Since Bush is making a precedent of reversing pardons, then any President in the future can reverse a pardon.

Many Pardons out there need reversing.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:41 AM
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7. I believe the pardon was able to be reversed because
It actually wasn't signed/issued yet. It had only been announced.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:49 AM
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8. "One of the 19 pardons President Bush signed on Tuesday" NYT
The pardon was officially granted and signed. Even the WH says this type of reversal has not been done before.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:50 AM
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9. GW is a fuckup. Why is anyone surprised he pooched this up, too?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:57 AM
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10. "I hereby Future Reverse any forthcoming pardons from Commander AWOL." - Spiral Hawk
Edited on Fri Dec-26-08 10:57 AM by SpiralHawk
"If Commander AWOL pardons them, then that PROVES they are low-down chickenhawk republicons, like Rove and Cheney, and Bugman. So in the interest of America, I hereby Future Reverse one and all..."

- Spiral Hawk & His Little Friends in the EggNog Cup
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:36 AM
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5. A preemptive, counter to his coming Scooter pardon. 'See! I can't be
corrupt because I pardoned Libby. Afterall, I revoked the pardon of that other feller...' :puke:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:57 AM
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11. It's not that tough...it was political poison to his "legacy."
If these were different times, I believe W wouldn't give a flying f*ck. But given the housing crisis, the Madoff fraud, people already getting kicked out of their homes as a record level as a direct result of his policies, pardoning a real estate scam artist would be a major stain on his legacy just as his handlers are finally letting him see some real news and understand how much he is hated. I don't think he wants to be hated. He is a pathological, lying fuck...but he can tap dance around all the war and economic issues ("9-11!"), but it would be impossible to explain any justification for pardoning a contributor except for a quid pro quo. Even Bush isn't that stupid. Well...okay, but this is one that is a lot more transparently, provably illegal, that even Tennessee and Mississippi Republicans can understand.

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 11:06 AM
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12. oh, I get it--I thought he reversed the pardon cuz the guy donated to Dems!
heh--seems they can fake anything--even a little ethical thinking...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 11:57 AM
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13. Well, it's been done before, somebody here came up with the case
so there is a legal precedent.

I think what happened was the party bosses just shoved it under Stupid's nose and he signed it. Two days later, the reason for it--a lavish contribution to the party--was all over the net and the party bosses realized they had a scandal on their hands. They then shoved the revocation under Stupid's nose.

What they're hoping is that the media won't pick it up and alas, they're right about that. The media are still sleeping off the corporate banquet of the last 8 years, too torpid to realize just what their benefactors have been up to and too overstuffed to care.

Meanwhile, Leonard Peltier is still in prison, waiting for the FBI guys who railroaded him to die of old age.
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