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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:12 AM
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How long till Obama signs the Kyoto Treaty?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:25 AM
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1. As soon as Al Gore fixes it n/t
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:32 AM
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2. What does Gore need to fix?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:55 AM
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3. China, India and compliance standards
I think those are the US sticking points.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 04:03 AM
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4. Thanks.
I guess I thought those were only the Republican sticking points.

David
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 04:05 AM
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5. All of the senate voted no
iirc. Of course, things are different now so it's hard to say whether they'll feel the same pressure to oppose it. Maybe when the anti-science idjits start hearing about conflict over the waters in the melted north pole, they'll realize climate change is true.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 04:16 AM
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6. Ok I looked it up.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 04:16 AM by Fire_Medic_Dave
We actually did sign it just didn't ratify it. It seems unlikely that it will be ratified any time in the near future, based on what wikipedia said. Thanks for the help though.

David
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 04:30 AM
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7. Who signed it?
I wasn't aware Clinton or Bush had signed it.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:59 PM
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9. Gore signed according to Wiki.
Neither Clinton or Bush presented it to the senate for ratification.

David
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:59 PM
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10. He did represent the US on that
I didn't know that his signature means the US signed. So we are official signators, just no ratification from the Senate. So the Senate could ratify Kyoto, I guess with 66 votes. Is that how you understand it? Does it have to be submitted by the President or can the Senate just take it up because it's been signed?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:21 PM
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11. As I read it the President has to submit it for ratification.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 04:31 AM
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8. I don't know, but it won't matter until he can get the Senate to ratify it
there's your problem.

and don't treaties require 2/3 approval?
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