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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 06:52 AM Original message |
NYT: American Moms: Overwhelmed and Pissed-off |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. The Lilly Ledbetter act was signed this week. It took |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. I was astounded to hear Tweety talk about this and bring up nurses as point of |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 12:08 AM Response to Reply #48 |
121. Of course, female dominated professions pay less. In early times, RNs didn't have many |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. I wish that pay disclosure would have been included in that bill. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. Although I am certain that much of this piece is true--- |
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Terry_M (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Based on this |
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Zing Zing Zingbah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
4. I can't imagine being angry with husband because he |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
62. It sounds like it's less about the buying, and more about being |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. hey.... last couple years, i give it all to my boys. they miss something and is a big OH WELL |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. LOL. Yeah, pretty much! Good training for them nt |
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
5. Geez, I should give my guy the day off. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
59. yeah, mine is pretty good that way, too |
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onlyadream (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
6. I can totally relate... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. ya, with you. IF i were working i would be pissed too. lol. BUT it works really |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
7. I really don't think men are as good at multi-tasking as woman are |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I agree. Have you ever seen the graphic of a woman's brain? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I guess it's lucky I have never had kids. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I agree with you. Like anything, parenting is something that people learn how to do. The more one |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. both my brothers have the same nurturing attributed to mothers and the ones that birthed |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
99. I agree with you. The women I know are better at that kind of thinking because |
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Sugar Smack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #99 |
141. And there you have it. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
104. Amen! the "hard wired" argument always boils down to "let's do it the way |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. cant help it, cant control..... weak? i hear ya. |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. here: |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Why are most CEOs, top level politicians, and other high-level executives male? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. We're less averse to confrontation. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. you are right. statistically married men make significantly more than others |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
76. They have that luxury because |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #76 |
101. Spot on. I've seen too many men carried to success by their assistants |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
67. I think that's true |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. I'm not sure that's the case. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Oh, I'm sure there's some degree of that |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. both my boys, especially oldest, very articulate at such young age. excellent communicators |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Oh absolutely - division of labor based on inclinations and skills |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. They always have some convenient, "just so" story to explain it. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
71. "Getting along" and "working well with others" are not necessarily the skills |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Absolutely |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Sure they served "those guys" well |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
73. ... |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
103. I'd just like to see that ability of "single focus" to focus on getting the pee |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. give them cheeios to aim for. theya re visual. bah hahahha |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
65. Because we still live in a very sexist society |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
68. The answer is obvious: Sexism. nt |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
102. Doing a great job, too, aren't they? |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
122. Hmm. Let's see. Discrimination? Cronyism? Lack of opportunity? Or even fear? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. "Just ask him to help." |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. not a chance in hell. absolutely refuse to ask. i will not be labeled a nag. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Whatever works for you. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. wink.... lol |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Thank you. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. ya |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. IOW, you have absorbed and internalized stereotypes that infantilize you. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Do you always not get humor? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. But you don't, really |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
84. What galls me is how they want to have it both ways |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. that's true. very good point. damn good thing i dont buy it any of the |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
50. I think that's partly still how men are raised and socialized |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
90. I think that many women get better at multi tasking |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. i think so. survival. i have found memory worse, then i realize i am remembering for 4 |
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DoctorMyEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
10. Doesn't seem like a random sample |
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ogneopasno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Exactly. Self-selecting samples rarely give good data. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
77. DING DING DING |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
12. Growing up, |
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onlyadream (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. Here's my true story: |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. bah hahhahaa. lol lol. i bet |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
98. Haven't kept count, but it seems to me that most of the stories about kids being |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
131. One night when my little one was just a toddler I decided |
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onlyadream (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #131 |
138. My friend's husband |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. That is just horrible. I can see how it could happen, |
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philk17088 (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
16. puleeeze! |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. Which of the things that women think about are "unimportant"? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. So true about women being judged more |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #55 |
87. Part of that is we men simply don't care as much about those things. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. Oh, really? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. I've heard that argument many times and I think it needs to be examined. |
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onlyadream (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. I think there's something else too |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Well I guess that "nesting" gene must have skipped me. |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #97 |
116. There's a lot of truth to that. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. I'm right there with you |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #87 |
115. I'm a woman who agrees with you on how unimportant most of that stuff is. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. I don't know, it depends on what you consider "unimportant"-- |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. Your privilege is showing, dude. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
20. Here is an interesting perspective |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. a baby says da da before ma ma. how their speech develops and da da is easier |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Division of labor is often practical to social harmony. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. most households can't survive economically on one income earner. |
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onlyadream (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
108. I feel exactly the same way... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. no guilt or justifying here. it works best for all four of us. we are the only |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. My study says women just like to bitch about things and will find something out of nothing |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
91. ! |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
23. Fuck the nut-free vegetarian appetizer that can be eaten without a fork. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. Yep, unfortunately, too many |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. As a single dad, I don't understand where you are coming from? Teachers and students |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. for real.... and it is fine.... what i have found in kids schools is this largely falls |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
27. I don't know, I think we've come a long way. When I was a kid, my dad |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. is it misplaced anger? are kids/dad really the stressor? is this a way to mask other, real economic |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
38. we're not mad at our kid/husband -- what we'd really like to do is kick our boss in the teeth. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. yes. i was saying in a post above... looking at going into the job market |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
95. i really like the book Two Income Trap by Elizabeth Warren and Amelia Warren |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Our culture, especially in the workplace, is most definitely |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. when hubby owned business, the women were the ones took off when child sick, or got the |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. There's still a good amount of that. It's built-in |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
109. That's my take, too, but my kids' dad shared every chore with me |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
46. Guilty. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. wow |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
70. They only think that way because we've carefully trained them to do so |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
51. It might be exacerbated in the context of children, but women are almost always angry at men.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. hm..... lol lol. only when they say |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. :) |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
58. I hear a good deal of this anger voiced at work |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #58 |
133. "if both partners shared responsibility equally" |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
60. With or W/o Kids, the BEST sitch a woman can hope for is the WORST most men face: |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
74. Good thing I never had kids--- |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #74 |
89. I've noticed that having kids tends to intensify traditional gender roles |
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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
78. I'm from a small town |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
86. Oh puke |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. I take it that you've never had a woman angry at you before. It can be genuinely unnerving.... |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. Yeah, he sounds like an asshole doesn't he? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
88. this is evidence of progress |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. that isnt the proper conclusion, lol. but good try. could be the other 50% |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #93 |
124. how do we determine time for ones self?? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. half assed? ya, you made a half assed conclusion here, lol. how does it |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #125 |
129. I work for less than a teacher works and they want me to do the |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. so you do a half assed job teaching our children, cause your daughter is so very important |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #130 |
132. pay me more than 780 euro a month |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #132 |
135. a world of selfishness that your pay is indicative of a child's education. n/t |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. I gotta live |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
112. It boils down to crap communication between the two parents. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. very good points. i have heard women criticize when a hubby has a task |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
114. oh good grief, there were no articles in the paper when I had to do everything |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
118. A great solution is not having kids at all. Then "mom" and "dad" can go on vacation, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. silliness, you. lol. n/t |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
120. It's an interesting phenomenon. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
123. They need to watch these, and re-evaluate their lives.. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
126. This should be/is a good thread ROFL |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 10:05 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. and if you are an ass |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #127 |
134. you are learning |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #134 |
136. lol. n/t |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
128. I think a big part of this is our obsession with work culture. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
140. More valium and chardonay will cure that |
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