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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:04 PM
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So did what's his name go on a pardoning binge before he left office? I wasn't paying attention.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:06 PM
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1. Don't you remember?
It happened right between declaring martial law and invading Iran.
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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:07 PM
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2. Surprisingly, he didn't
He didn't pardon Scooter Libby, for example. Cheney was very upset at that.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:08 PM
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3. No, instead he handed out eternal immunity certificates thinking they were the same thing.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:09 PM
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4. Dim son never pardoned people for any human reason. He refused to commute the death sentence for a
retarded (excuse me low functioning) teenager in TX.
The other reason is that if he was to pardon the war crimes crowd:
1) he would be admitting they had committed crimes
2) they could not assert fifth amendment rights.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:23 PM
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7. Well, Spurious George always did have wonky priorities.
I'm sure that to him, the low-functioning teenager he allowed to die was a much worse criminal than someone who subverted the rule of law, stepped on people's constitutional rights, outed a CIA operative, or treasonously locked thousands of American soldiers and Iraqi civilians in a dance of death.

So let's just say I wouldn't be at all surprised if he had gone pardon-crazy with his cronies in the last couple of days, and did so under the table.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:09 PM
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5. he didn't need to.
he spent 8 years destroying the justice department.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:17 PM
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6. No, he didn't.
However, some of his signing statements were so convoluted as to confer de facto pardons for a lot of filth.

He did pardon the 3 imprisoned border guards, which was probably a good thing since their sentences were completely out of proportion to their crime of assault (they shot a fleeing border crosser in the butt).

Some of his others were for imprisoned pot smokers and the rest were all white collar criminals of various types.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 05:44 PM
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10. That border crosser had a van load of pot..I forget the amount exactly.
It was on the order of at least several hundred pounds and the same guy supposedly had shot at other border guards previously.
Now if we legalized it and taxed it say through liquor stores..we would save and make a bundle..
Our government did not learn anything after a decade of alcohol prohibition that only made folks like Al Capone rich.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:45 PM
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11. If the fucking preachers would stop trying to rile up their
congregations to outlaw sin for everybody else, we'd have a much more open and socially just nation.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 04:02 PM
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8. Not realizing a lack of pardons goes way beyond simply not paying attention.
Hell, we've had an inauguration and everything. :rofl:
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 04:28 PM
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9. If he gave pardons...
they could then be forced to testify. By not giving pardons, they are forced take the fifth or self incriminate.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:52 PM
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12. He Did One Better...
He issued a silly immunity that supposedly will prevent Rove and others from ever testifying...so no need to pardon when they never will honor a subpoena or go to trial. We'll see on February 18th if the Obama Administration agrees with that position and then, i'm certain, a court challenge and the hopes there that this farewell bomb can be defused and Rove compelled to testify or go to jail.

I'm surprised he didn't pardon George Ryan so they could start preparing the cell for Blago, but as someone on the teevee explained it...Booooshie is a selfish bastard, he probably felt people had deserted him in his final days and this was a final FU to his own party.
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