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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:07 AM
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Isn't Groundhog Day's Predictor Bass Akwards?
The National Climatic Data Center reportedly has stated that ground hog day's overall predictions accuracy rate is around 39%.

That means it's inaccurate 61% of the time.

Doesn't that mean that - in fact - when the groundhog sees his shadow, winter will end sooner?

Seems to be they've got the whole thing backwards.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:09 AM
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1. The NCDC's groundhog interpretation rate is -100%
or something like that :crazy:
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ferrous wheel Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:14 AM
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2. I never figured out how a subterranean-dwelling rodent could affect the equinox!
And do it over and over and over and...

:D
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:18 AM
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3. It's all about "faith"
C'mon, man , you believe in an old dude in the sky controlling all of our lives, don't you?
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:21 AM
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6. I imagine Curt Warner is having a difficult time today, wondering
why Jesus made the Cardinals lose yesterday.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:22 AM
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8. Was that Jesus? I thought it was more to do with stupid penalties.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:32 PM
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13. Doesn't Jesus hand out a lot of penalties, like burning in hell for eternity?
No mention of that eternal suffering for non-believers in the OT. It was gentle Jesus, meek and mild who came up with that one.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:38 PM
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14. No, that was his old-man.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:19 AM
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4. Ever hear of global climate change?
That subterranean-dwelling rodent named Dubya Bush has affected the equinox.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:20 AM
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5. 6 weeks or month and a half
Spring still starts on March 21.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:22 AM
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7. The problem is the rodent du jour.
If we used, say, squirrels, who are not annoyed at being awakened out of a deep warm sleep, then, there would be less sabotage.

The groundhog can't be wrong this often by accident, he is PO'ed.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:30 AM
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9. Groundhogs come out to find a mate for their spring mating
To look around, check out the females, and decide who to play house with for a short while...they'll visit several females if they can

but they won't mate until spring...just get in some early bonding

I love this day!

Everyone talks weather and I just snicker.

Poor Phil...he just wants to get laid.






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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:40 AM
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10. If you see your shadow, the sun is out
if it's cloudy, you don't.

The groundhog is just a prop.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 12:00 PM
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12. Show biz killed it!
Stephanie Abrams from The Weather Channel was there. She said it was very cloudy, and the only reason he saw his shadow, was because of the TV lights.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:56 PM
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15. I didn't even think about that! Good Point!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:48 AM
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11. My desert tortoise is always right.
He saw his shadow this morning, and went back to bed.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:11 PM
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16. Half the problem is it is based on a German tradition. There is science behind it.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 02:13 PM by NutmegYankee
In Germany, if it's a nice clear day, chances are the cold air mass from the north is still in control of the region and keeping the moisture out, and hence no clouds. If there are clouds, and the critter cannot see it's shadow, then that means that the warmer moist southern air mass has been making it's way up, and that spring is on it's way.

Problem is even in winter or spring some days rain or are sunny, and picking one set day each year really reduces the odds of getting a good prediction. This does work somewhat well in the USA though, as the air masses are either continental polar (from Canada) or Maritime Tropic (from Gulf of Mexico). Once again though, a single set day ruins it. If you observe many cloudy wet days, you can presume that the Maritime Tropic air is winning the fight northward, and spring is coming.


Edit: better title
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:13 PM
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17. Phil gets to try to predict the weather one day a year, and half the time he gets it wrong.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 02:13 PM by baldguy
That's why you don't see him on the 6 o'clock news every day.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:23 PM
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18. I think it's spelled "Ackwards."
:dunce:
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