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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:56 PM
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Robert Reich: Tom Daschle and the populist revolt
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/robert_reich/2009/02/tom-daschle-and-the-populist-r.php

Tom Daschle's surprise withdrawal today shocked most Washington insiders -- after all, Daschle had been a key figure in the Senate, was Obama's pick for a major role in the new administration, would very likely have done a superb job getting a new health-insurance system enacted, and, probably could have mustered enough votes to be confirmed. So what happened? My guess is that official Washington underestimated the public's pique at what appeared to be the old ways of Washington. Hill staffers tell me that many offices have been inundated with telephone calls, emails, letters and faxes expressing concern (to put it mildly) about Daschle -- not only his failure to pay back taxes but his relationships with major players in the health care industry and rich consulting contracts with the private sector since leaving the Senate, and even the fact that he was given a car and driver by one of them.

What's going on here? Maybe official Washington, much like most of Wall Street, is still not quite getting it.
Typical Americans are hurting very badly right now. They resent people who appear to be living high off a system dominated by insiders with the right connections. They've become increasingly suspicious of the conflicts of interest, cozy relationships, and payoffs that seem to pervade not only official Washington but our biggest banks and corporations. In short, many Americans who have worked hard, saved as much as they can, bought a home, obeyed the law, and paid every cent of taxes that were due are beginning to feel like chumps. Their jobs are disappearing, their savings are disappearing, their homes are worth far less than they thought they were, their tax bills are as high as ever if not higher -- but people at the top seem to be living far different lives in a different universe. They're the executives and traders on Wall Street have lived like kings for years off a bubble of their own making while ripping off small investors, the financial louts who are now taking hundreds of billions of taxpayer bailout money while awarding themselves huge bonuses and throwing lavish parties, the corporate CEOs who are earning seven figures while laying off thousands of workers, the billionaire hedge-fund and private-equity managers who are paying a marginal tax rate of 15 percent on what they say are capital gains while people who earn a fraction of that are paying a higher rate, and, not the least, the Washington insiders who have served on the Hill or in an administration and then gone on to pocket millions as lobbyists for the same companies they once regulated or subsidized. To the American who's outside the power centers -- the places of entitlement and I'll-scratch-your-back-while-you-scratch-mine deal making -- the entire system seems rotten.

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:15 PM
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1. Good observations. K & R.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:15 PM
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2. He sure summed up my feeling about the situation
I feel almost like we were conned "Big Time" I want "Change I can Believe in" It doesn't appear on the immediate horizon and that is upsetting to me..I certainly hope things take a different course and I'm willing to give a little more time but I am nowhere near as happy as I thought I would be.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:24 PM
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36. This need not be a bad thing for Obama
The Faux line of the day is that this shows that Obama is all screwed up.

No. I don't think so. I don't expect Obama to be perfect. I do expect him to do the right thing. And getting Daschle's resignation is the right thing.

In picking Daschle, Obama betrayed his confidence in change. He evidently calculated that he could nt really bring about a real change in health care, so his best options was to bring in a party hack to broker a little change with the lobbyists.

Screw that. Let's get back on track. We need fundamental change in health care, are we aren't going to get it from a guy who has recently been in the pocket of lobbyists.

The right thing to do is to get Howard Dean on this job. Nobody else has succeeded at fixing the health care system, so there is nothing to lose. And nobody thought Dean could turn around the Democratic Party and break it loose of the beltway system, so let's give him a chance.

This is person-of-the-century stuff for both Obama and Dean.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:16 PM
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3. K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R!!!
Some of Obama's choices ARE NOT the CHANGE we sought!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:19 PM
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4. Putting All My Eggs In ONE Basket Here... But Robert Reich Is One Very
intelligent guy, and he GETS IT!! Every time I turn around it's just ANOTHER big mess with ANOTHER inside the Beltway back scratcher!

I've been fighting Bank of America for FOUR LONG YEARS over fraudulent credit card charges... up to $9,000.00 now and I was REALLY thinking we were gonna get a little help for us peons! After hiring a lawyer and trying everything in the book, I'm finally taking the advice of another Du'er here... calling Senator Bill Nelson about it. But I really don't think it's gonna help in the end. I called them today to thank them for their NFL Extravaganza and told them that even though I was only an hour away from Tampa, I was unable to make "the party!" I need them to "show me the money!"

Seems NOTHING works anymore! I don't think Partisanship will ever end, despite efforts by Obama. It's getting a little nightmarish regardless! So I say, why don't we just go after BFEE and blow the whole thing wide open!

Am I correct? Didn't Reich leave the Clinton Administration early? Bobby Kennedy, Paul Wellstone & Robert Reich, at least they have/had a spine!

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:21 PM
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5. The system is rotten to the core.
It's the reason I don't buy mutual funds and rarely buy stock, I refuse to buy health insurance (self-insured), I get my produce from a local market or a farm co-op and I buy most things used or from people I know.

I do my part to keep my money out of the system. Unfortunately, with the bailout I've been forced to contribute to some of the worst elements of it.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:28 PM
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6. He's right - it was a revolt that originated from the bottom
I don't know why they're so surprised. So was Obama's election.

Old Washington is still trying to process the fact that the game has changed.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:31 PM
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7. much as I love Reich, this is a stupid essay
Wow, Republicans are now leading a 'populist revolt.' Right. Sure. It seems more likely that Limbaugh, encouraged by his last success, stirred up the dittoheads and the Democratic party caved to the RWNM again.

Just look at how successful this 'populist revolt' is gonna be towards getting rid of that lower tax rate on dividends. (Hint: it's not even being considered. If Obama was such a great chess player, he could have made that part of the stimulus bill to begin with, and then dumped it in the name of bipartisanship. For all of my hatred of Bush, he did know how to negotiate. First he would ask for something ridiculous and the Republican house would quickly reply, passing something even more ridiculous (see, for example the tax cuts of 2003, where he pushed for dividends to be COMPLETELY tax free, and then later settled for what we have now after Senate Democrats pushed back.))
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:01 PM
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8. I don't think he was chiefly referring to people with an income in respect
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 07:02 PM by Joe Chi Minh
of which the tax on their bond dividends would be that significant. You don't get it, do you?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:10 PM
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11. are we talking about the same thing?
Reich claimed people were angry about things like this

"the billionaire hedge-fund and private-equity managers who are paying a marginal tax rate of 15 percent on what they say are capital gains while people who earn a fraction of that are paying a higher rate, and, not the least,"

Okay, so they joined with Republicans to sink the Daschle nomination, but how likely is it that those same Republicans will actually do something about the issue they were (supposedly) angry about? That the angry masses will actually be able to change policy rather than just derail somebody that the RWNM went after? My guess is very unlikely, and it's not a guess.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:02 PM
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9. Did we read the same essay?
Reich says the public is ready to revolt, not a word about Republicans. He's got the public mood right:

hurting
resent
suspicious
feel like chumps
entire system seems rotten

Republicans are doing a terrible job at exploiting the populist possibilities of the situation. Obama needs to take it to the people and ignore this strategy that aims to please beltway insiders.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:04 PM
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10. It's a classic ploy. Write something totally "off the wall", and most people
will blame themselves for not understanding it. They do it again and again on here. It kind of disrupts the thread.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:22 PM
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14. who is they?
You mean 'they' in the sense of 'people with lots of education'?

or 'they' in the sense of 'people who are staunch defenders of the working class'

God forbid I disrupt the flow of the thread by deviating from the "Yay!! Daschle went down and the Obama administration got a black eye!! It's a total victory for progressives and the little people!!"

I don't apologize for calling it like I see it. A victory for the RWNM.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 08:51 PM
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19. sure, I must be a troll
since I am not celebrating a victory for the RightWing Noise Machine and calling it a populist revolt. Just like all those angry people who called Congressman Gingrey.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:18 PM
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12. not a word about Republicans, but it was Republicans who went after Daschle
So the public is supposedly angry, and what they demand is Daschle's head on a platter. What is the likelihood that they can lobby the Republicans to do something useful for them. Again, I say, no more likely than it ever was.

Also, many of those who "feel the entire system is rotten" are Republicans. That's standard Republican-speak. Remember Reagan "Government is not the answer to the problem. Government IS the problem." or Grover Norquist who hates the government so much he wants to drown it in a bathtub?

Wake me up when their anger doesn't serve the Republican party.

You know who else is angry? Rush Limbaugh. He's a hate monger who lives to stir up anger. Anger at people like Daschle, at Obama, and at the government in general. I still say a bunch of those angry people were probably dittoheads going after a Democratic Senator that they already hated.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:58 PM
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16. Maybe people are sick of the Daschles
Not just Republicans (they don't even need an excuse to draw blood). Daschle's unclaimed income was more than most people make in a year. Combine that with the Wall St. bloodsuckers shamelessness and everyone is wondering where that change is.

Forget about partisanship for a minute. There are many populist issues that unite left, right, and center. If the left can't herd politicians to take heed of that building anger then the right may. That's a very scary proposition.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 08:43 PM
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18. maybe people are told to be sick of the Daschles
by a rightwing noise machine which is never slow to manufacture outrage about Democrats and Democratic policies. It's not like Republicans haven't been using outrage about taxes to cut taxes for rich people.

I think there are more people on the right who are sick of Daschle than there are people on the left.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:17 PM
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20. I was sick of him long ago. He was a spineless Minority "Leader"
Lifelong DEM here, and not given to much mind control by the media.

Why is it so hard to at least entertain that lots of people who are not MSM/GOP puppets DO NOT LIKE Daschle? Fact is, we are legion.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:28 PM
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22. if you were really legion, then Democrats would win more elections
Progressives who hate Daschle are not nearly as numerous as RW people who hate Daschle. That's just a guess, mainly because I drove 40 miles to walk in an anti-war march. Yes, there were over 1,000 of us - in a city of 80,000.

Did you, by any chance, call your Senators and tell them to oppose Daschle?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:19 PM
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24. Hello
:rofl: Observe much?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:37 PM
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27. Did you call your Senators or not?
I think I observe quite a bit. We lost in 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, and 2004. Progressives are not now suddenly in the majority, any more than a black eye for Obama is a victory against the RWNM.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:42 PM
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23. I was sick of Daschle through his entire term as Minority Leader.
I was appalled by his behavior since leaving office and the
fact that Obama thought he was still somehow qualified to
serve in a "no lobbyists" administration.

Tesha

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:23 PM
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26. its funny and sad how often that DU and FR agree
that Democrats suck.

Granted, he was part of the Doormatcrat party when he lead the Senate, but the Senate did stop some of the Bush agenda. I am probably overly sympathetic to Daschle because I am from South Dakota and I talked to one of his staffers at the SD State Fair in 1985 and asked 'Is he gonna run for the Senate?' and "I think he can win." and I was also proud that a Dakotan became majority leader.

It was a victory for Bush when he was defeated. Maybe he's kinda sold out since then, but no more so than Clinton, who has staunch defenders here. What did McGovern do after he was defeated?

Even now though, by withdrawing, he spreads the theme "major Democrats are crooks." I don't think its a victory for progressives or populists.
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:23 PM
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50. No, I don't listen to the right wing noise machine EVER and I was
never happy about Daschle or any of his kind. We won on the idea that government needs to be in the hands of the people NOT the elite/the insiders. Daschle was always a bad choice, unfortunately, along with a few others.
The people, regardless of party are sick of this stuff, rightfully frustrated with Obama for continuing it, and the GOP is taking advantage (as they always do) of it, even though their accusations couldn't be more hypocritical. They know this but they're the spin doctors extraordinaire. Obama needs to stop playing into this stuff and call them out for being hypocrites too. Unfortunately, by choosing people like Daschle, he's making himself look like one.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:46 PM
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48. Daschle's unclaimed income was more than most people make in a year.
So you hate him because he's rich.

Interesting.


Personally, I don't think the Daschle crap is worth wasting time over....after it being mentioned and noted. It's the MSM letting the GOP tell us what we should think and be concerned about. There are much more important things to make a stink over. They're doing it right now with the stimulus. Again using the "evil" that is being rich as a hook.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:05 PM
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51. The GOP is telling us that being rich is evil???
You ruined your own argument by finishing it with it's own absurd conclusion.

I don't hate people merely because they may be rich and nothing in my post could be logically construed to indicate that.

I think the average voter was pissed off - not just progressives and opportunistic Republicans. It was pathetic listening to Daschle's apologist make light of the transgressions. The guy I heard tried to compare it lending your brother your car while you are on vacation and him not paying taxes on it. IMO that is what sunk the nomination.





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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:03 AM
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30. I'm the farthest thing from a Republican, and I can't stand Daschle
He was the Great Wimp, the guy who led the Dems to cave in to the Republicanites at every turn.

I'm glad he's out of the picture. He should go back to doing what he does best, sucking up to big business.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:26 PM
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37. the republicans used the media
to try daschle in the court of public opinion, spinning the truth and using him as a representative of their own mistakes.

The people are pissed.

but they took it out on the wrong guy, as usual.

they bought the republican talking points hook line and sinker. No one even knows what Daschle really did, or how many of the republicans who run for much more important offices are guilty of this but with intention.

Yeah, but Daschle is made the poster boy for tax evasion (utterly unfair) thru Republican media saturation and he didn't stand a chance.

Yeah, I'm one of the people who feel JUST like this article describes-- only I'm not pouring it on Daschle. He was our shot at getting health care. They hung him out to dry, WE jumped on the band wagon and fu*ked ourselves as we always do because we can't manage an ounce of loyalty or "wait and see" before we judge -- instead, we have to fall right in step with the republicans talking points.

The republicans are laughing their asses off at us, as they have always feared that if we got health care for everyone passed, they would lose power for 30 years or more. I can't remember which one of them said this, but it's a quote.

AS they did with many things during the election, they continue to use the media effectively to drive our emotions and opinions.
QUESTION THE INFORMATION.

remember the leaks of the past weeks, all leaked by republicans and all lies.

kennedy, CBO report, etc.



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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:48 PM
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29. I have to agree with you.
I think his description of the country's mood is accurate, but I don't think that had much to do with Daschle's withdrawal. It seems much more likely the result of the usual right-wing lunatics stirring up the usual right-wing frenzy.

I don't think we'd have ever heard about most of these corporate abuses of the TARP funds if McCain were president, either. It's all part of throwing up opposition to Obama's stimulus funding.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:20 PM
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13. I think Daschle and the other two nominees got fucked over by an informant in the IRS
and the Republicans and their Mediawhores were ready to milk it.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:27 PM
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15. heresy! heresy! It's a total victory for the little people and the angry left.
I can't wait to see what else we will win.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:20 PM
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21. Fucked over by their own arrogance/gulibility
Either they think they are entitled to perks above and beyond the law, or they are really really poor at hiring tax accountants. Either way, not suitable for major policy making positions.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:20 PM
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25. That's it, the "official" story is BS
I was listening to our CBC News while they were explaining the Daschle withdrawal as a mere "tax scandal". Bullshit.

Obama knew about the tax situation, he was just attempting to pay off his political benfactor.

But he never considered the rage of the grassroots who have never forgotten the "Pink Tutu Democrat" who voted for a useless war, enabled every neocon whim and eventually became the role model for official corruption as a corporate whore of the worst stripe.

I'd like to think this was a victory for the people and democracy, not a major failure for Obama.

Maybe Obama's learning.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:29 PM
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43. Or maybe this was all an orchestration by Obama b/c he really wanted somebody...
else for HHS.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:34 PM
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28. Reich always seems to have his finger on the pulse of America.
Wish Obama would have put him in his administration; he's an advisor, but he certainly would be a valuable asset.

Secretary of Commerce would have been a good fit, instead of the "bipartisan compromise" Gregg.

Reich was a good Sec. of Labor for Clinton. Don't think they always listened to him when they should have, but the man is brilliant.
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LeftHandPath Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 09:54 AM
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31. The system does not SEEM rotten...
The system IS rotten. And I'm afraid its going to take a full on revolt to right the ship.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 09:56 AM
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32. Whenever the GOP does something it's hailed as a "populist revolt"
when the Democrats do it it's called "obstructionism."
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:05 PM
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33. Actually this line from the OP sums up my problems with Daschle
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 01:06 PM by dflprincess
"...would very likely have done a superb job getting a new health-insurance system enacted.."

And I bet it would be one his pals at United HealthGroup just loved.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:32 PM
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45. Health insurance doesn't provide insurance to people it provides "health incurrence" instead!

incurrence

Seems like a more accurate framing term to what the health care industry is subjecting us too now.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:15 PM
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34. we have a very corrupt government
lots of dirty laundry needs to be aired out.... sorry to see so many democrats so complacent about it all, so much so they defend corruption even in their own party. SOmeone did say FR and DU are a lot alike... I'd say they are in the fact that both have memebers who condone corruption as long as they are in their own political party. That attitude hurts our party more so than wanting to get rid of corruption in our own party.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:23 PM
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35. Bob, you ask " What's going on here?" Thanks, but where have you been?
It's been going on for decades: Johnson tried but his guns and butter policies did not work - Vietman ruined his Great Society ambitions, Nixon's Southern Strategy to get elected turned the country to this conservative/fundamentalist cabal's lock for the last forty years, his post-Vietnam recession assured that Carter could not do much for the economy and led to Reagan and his policies of re-arming extended the recession well into the 80"s, Bush Sr, Clinton and Bush Jr, really didn't help the vast majority of Americans with their families' balance sheets, despite all the claims of the Clinton glory years - give me a break.

Bob, you can't see from that Ivory Tower up there on the UC campus. Get out of the building, take a walk down to the flats in Berkeley, look around, ask people if they just woke-up to their anger about the economy and the robber barons theivery not just on Wall Street banks and investment houses, and Wash. D.C., but your class (yes I said class), the Ivy Leaguers and related schools like UC Berkely, Univ of Chicago, etc who have been breed to this immoral sense of entitlement to the resources of this country and the birth right to enrich themselves, and their progeny at the expense of others. Take a short drive over to Richmand, or Oakland and see for yourself, do some real empiracal researach - talk to real people!

This is not a recent story, Bobby! And, you know it. I am glad that you occasionally speak out on cable shows, it does help. But, we need your buddies at Harvard - the training ground for the greed and theivery class, and Princton, Yale, Penn, Geargetown, and others to use their privledge and brains to give up your comforts and get the fuck to work for the benefit of all.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:55 PM
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39. On top of it, Bob still thinks that doing even more of same will solve the problem
One thing is for sure, those who are chosen to speak are chosen because they are keeping the best interests of the choosers in the forefront. The more things change the more the wealthy try keep them the same
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:31 PM
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44. Amen! I'm just wondering what has taken so long...
...Remember that YouTube video of the young ungulate caught in a tug of war between a crocodile and a pride of lions? The lions won the tussle over the bleating calf and then remarkably the group of wildebeests realized their sheer numbers trumped the lions' ferocity and turned on the felines. They rescued the youngster in something that should serve as a reminder to all who believe in democracy.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 03:07 PM
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47. Wow - I like that! Great video and a perfect imagery for what
we can do to protect our young, and old and families and neighbors!

Thanks
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:50 PM
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38. Took the words right out pof my rants!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:06 PM
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40. Excellent. encompasses the true economic reality.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:20 PM
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41. D.C. still does not get it--IF they ever even tried to
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:22 PM
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42. What they will get is not voting in incumbents
who don't get it, regardless of the party they are in.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:33 PM
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46. Once again Robert Reich nails it and reaffirms my love for him!
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ezdidit Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 05:46 PM
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49. Daschle's impropriety is no match for his hypocrisy.
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 05:46 PM by ezdidit
It wasn't his $143,000 in unpaid taxes that did him in.

Daschle was tagged to stump for a government-paid insurance premium swindle - a health insurance bailout on the boards for us. He had been outed as a health insurance lobbyist, and that's why he was dumped.

There's no way we will have true government-run health care for all in the U.S.

The opposition will call government-paid premiums "socialized medicine," because the government will pay disreputable insurance companies to administer a manipulable two-, or three-tiered system of coverage for those who can't afford it.

Watch Democrats accede to the term, "socialized medicine." Watch as the horror stories continue. Watch as the word will go out from official D.C. "experts" that "socialized medicine doesn't work in the US."
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