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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:06 AM
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Cspan3 & CNBC - Whistleblower Harry Markopolos testifies
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 10:45 AM by DemReadingDU
Here's a link to watch
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN3_wm.aspx


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House Committee
Financial Market Investigations into Madoff Allegations
Financial Services, Capital Markets, Insurance, and Government Sponsored Enterprises
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
ID: 283836 - 02/04/2009 - 4:21 - ns


Kanjorski, Paul E. U.S. Representative, D, Pennsylvania
Markopolos, Harry Financial Analyst

A hearing was held on the $50 billion investment scam allegedly engineered by Bernard L. Madoff that was the subject of multiple investigations. The hearing titled "Assessing the Madoff Ponzi Scheme and Regulatory Failures" focused on possible regulatory failures that allowed it to occur and the need to rewrite the laws governing the U.S. financial markets. Witnesses included an independent financial fraud investigator and a panel of Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) officials.

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&record=202434195

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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:14 AM
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1. HOLY COW. I'm watching now. Caught the last 10 minutes of his
testimony and he's "on fire".
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:22 AM
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2. Yes, This Markopoulos is very good!

thanks for all the recs!
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:44 AM
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5. "I'm bringing one in tomorrow. I hope they'll listen to me". He's freaking brutal.
Response: "Oh, they will!!"
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:07 AM
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9. And all across America fraudsters are quaking, wondering if they're the one.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:08 AM
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10. He needs to stay away from small aircraft and speeding cars.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:39 AM
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3. msnbc.com has it streamed live, too....
I don't get C-Span3, so the live feed is a blessing. This guy is wonderful. I wonder what his two-year personal thing is that would keep him from working in government. We need him NOW.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:44 AM
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4. CNBC is also showing this. n/t
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 10:50 AM
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6. At the beginning, Markopolos feared for his life

I hope to see a replay of Markopolos's opening statement. I had missed that.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:00 AM
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7. He even offered to go undercover, in disguise...
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:06 AM
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8. The detail about delivering the envelope to Spitzer was like a movie script...gloves, no fingerprint
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:22 AM
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15. I wonder if the NSA spying was used on Spitzer at just the opportune moment..
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:24 AM
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17. I bet so

I think the NSA was used to spy on many people, totally unaware.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:14 PM
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76. I didn't hear that yet ...can you elaborate????
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:00 PM
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84. When he got no response from the SEC, the whistleblower put his investigative report....
...in an envelope that was a copy of the original, made while he wore gloves. Then he hand delivered, with gloves on, a copy to a place where Spitzer was appearing asking that it be given to him. He didn't see Spitzer actually receive it; doesn't know if he did. But he kept his fingerprints off it because he was so worried about his safety, his family's safety, and the safety of his co-investigators. He said Madoff was already facing life in prison for his crimes, so he had nothing to lose by eliminating his accuser.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 08:57 PM
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97. Spitzer ...
I was watching him for years, hopeful he'd be heading DOJ one day and more--!!

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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:09 AM
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11. need 1 more rec please!
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:11 AM
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12. Done!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:12 AM
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13. Thanks!

much appreciated!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:21 AM
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14. This is truly mind blowing
Chris Cox is still not behind bars.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:23 AM
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16. Harry Markopolus just became my new hero
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:26 AM
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18. "Modern day Greek Hero". One of the good guys
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:30 AM
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19. I am listening to the live feed right now. If this guy is telling the truth its just too much
I realize that this guy is a zelot, but he sure seems credible to me and he seems to be able to back up everything he is saying.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:30 AM
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20. If the SEC doesn't reform itself, it should be disbanded.

wow!
out of 3500 in the SEC, only 2 supported Markopolos. Did I hear that right?
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:35 AM
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21. I came late to this party. I hope this is on You Tube when it's over
so the rest of us can see what you guys are talking about!!

K & R for those who are able to watch.

:kick:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:38 AM
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23. hoping for a replay on Cspan too

I missed the opening statement, actually the 1st half hour.

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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:39 AM
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28. Same here. I'm willing to watch the WHOLE THING over again.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:49 AM
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34. Usually an explsive hearing like this is replayed on CSPAN in the evening.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:38 AM
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24. You can watch it right now....
got to msnbc.com and click on the live stream link.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:41 AM
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30. just switched to MSNBC.com
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 11:55 AM by DemReadingDU
that cspan link kept cutting out

edit: cspan gives the name of the person talking, can't tell who is speaking on msnbc
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:39 AM
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26. It should be reshown either tonight or this coming weekend.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:37 AM
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22. ZERO enforcement in the last 8 years.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:39 AM
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27. I heard that

:wow:
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:38 AM
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25. Madoff is under "Penthouse Arrest"
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:39 AM
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29. He's under Penthouse Arrest with Security guards paid for by
his crimes
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:42 AM
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31. Has there been any Republicans asking questions?

I haven't seen any yet
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:47 AM
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32. I've been waiting for a GOPer to defend the SEC.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:48 AM
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33. So there has been Zero so Far?

It figures though.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:51 AM
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35. I don't know .... I don't know the parties of many who've spoken.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:52 AM
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37. Usually they send one or two to insult the witness, but this guy is unimpeachable
He is frickin amazing. He should be head of the SEC
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:57 AM
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39. So far I haven't seen one Repug speak yet
but tuned in after it started.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:37 PM
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95. Rep Bachus from Alabama is asking questions to the SEC
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:52 AM
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36. Yes... several. However, unless I missed something, NOBODY is defending the SEC.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 11:54 AM
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38. Will this re-air?
I missed most of it....
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:03 PM
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40. check the cspan schedule for a replay. here's the link
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 12:04 PM by DemReadingDU

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp

I want to see it again

edit: nothing so far, but check again later.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:04 PM
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41. Here's info on the Ms. Cheung he's mentioning over & over so disparagingly....
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:05 PM
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42. He tells the Russian Mob he's the good guy here
Don't do a hit on me I protected you against fraud


That was funny.

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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:05 PM
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43. Russian Mob and Latin American Drug Cartels........
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 12:08 PM by Postman
Can't possibly be any corrupt American crooks (other than Madoff) involved with this.....

Do you think any high level American politicians of both stripes were involved with this Madoff Scheme?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:08 PM
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44. SEC reps on next panel. I know what I'm doing all day today.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:12 PM
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52. Me, too ... I wish I could get it on TV because I want to get out of this recliner & my laptop.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:16 PM
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55. probably politicians were involved with Madoff
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:08 PM
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45. Markopolos: If you flew the entire SEC staff to Fenway park

They would not be able to find 1st base.

Just wow!
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:10 PM
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48. Not only does there need to be a movie -- he needs to write it!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:09 PM
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46. I hope they let him ask questions to the SEC and that wasn't a lame joke
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 12:09 PM by Ichingcarpenter
His questions would be more hard hitting than most congressmen.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:11 PM
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50. I think it was just a joke, but maybe he can pass notes to the panel???
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:17 PM
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56. I don't see why not he would know the questions to ask them

Its not abnormal.

Linda Thomsen did go after Enron but at the same time
went after Martha Stewart.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:09 PM
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47. I say let Madoff loose in Red Square.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:11 PM
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49. HERE COMES THE S.E.C. PANEL
:popcorn:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:18 PM
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58. SEC Linda Thomsen did go after Enron
but also after Martha Stewart.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:11 PM
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51. Well, here come the goons
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:16 PM
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54. and they're going to try to make it "all about Madoff"
I can't wait for the questioning to start. :popcorn:
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:15 PM
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53. "Alleged" my ass n/t
I'm surprised they didn't break for lunch.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:18 PM
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57. aw sheeeet, there went the video from msnbc .... damn!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:20 PM
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60. try cspan

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN3_wm.aspx

cspan gives the names of the people talking


we definitely need a replay of this entire testimony later today
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:22 PM
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61. Thanks. I'm there now, but have a question ... is there a way to enlarge the video?
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:24 PM
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62. right-click on the video. use the zoom option
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:26 PM
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63. Oooh cool! Thank you!
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:18 PM
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59. "Enforcement Director" at the SEC........Wolf, meet Hen House
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:31 PM
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64. Erik Sirri named new SEC director
Erik Sirri named new SEC director
August 14, 2006

WASHINGTON --Erik R. Sirri, an economist who specializes in the structure of securities markets, has been named the new director of market regulation at the Securities and Exchange Commission, the agency announced Monday.

The appointment by SEC Chairman Christopher Cox fills a high-level position at the agency, head of the division overseeing the nation's stock exchanges, which has been without a permanent director for months.

Sirri, 48, was the SEC's chief economist from 1996 to 1999. He is a finance professor at Babson College and is currently a visiting scholar at Harvard Law School.

Sirri also has been a member of the economic advisory board of the Nasdaq Stock Market and of the board of the Boston Options Exchange, and was a governor of the Boston Stock Exchange.

Before his career in finance and economics, he worked for several years on planetary astronomy missions for NASA and on space surveillance sensors in the aerospace industry.

He will assume the job on Sept. 12.

Sirri has a bachelor's degree in astronomy from the California Institute of Technology, an MBA from the University of California at Irvine and a doctorate in finance from the University of California at Los Angeles.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:39 PM
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65. This is not gonna be informative I fear......I'm in awe of their Greenspan speak

A type of language that is gobblely gook.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:42 PM
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66. Wait till the questions start. I think the Greenspan speak will cease then.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:45 PM
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69. Popcorn??
:popcorn:
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:47 PM
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70. I'm passing out some peanuts at the witness table.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:42 PM
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67. Blather, blather, blather. Come on.... let's get to the questions.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:44 PM
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68. This just gives the panel longer to load the big guns.
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:48 PM
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71. this guy is blowing the lid off these scams! my HERO!!!!
Markopolois started talking about investors in Europe ... royal families, old money families, neuveau riche ... and how their losses would probably be greater than the those of the US Jewish community, but that those losses would never come out because the money was tax-dodge money hidden in offshore accounts... at which point his lawyer frantically wrote him a note and passed it over, and he stopped talking about it. HMMMM!!!???? Turning in a $1 billion mini-Madoff tomorrow. 10 more Maddof feeder funds 'hiding in the grass' in Europe... JEEESUSSSS!!!!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:52 PM
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73. Markopolois was impressive and cspan is repeating his testimony now

no wonder he feared for his life.

The SEC panelist I have my doubts if they will really answer anything.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:51 PM
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72. Replay of Markopolos on cspan3 - starting over now
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 12:52 PM by DemReadingDU
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:56 PM
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74. Think you're right.....distraction ---
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:08 PM
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75. --- lunch break ---
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:28 PM
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77. Not yet .... SEC is testifying
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:35 PM
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78. back from lunch

sorry, should have posted sooner
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:44 PM
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79. Holy Shit! I don't know who this Congressman is but he's on fire
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:45 PM
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80. *munch munch munch*
:popcorn:

this shit is getting pretty good
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:46 PM
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81. Congressman Ackerman to Andy Vollmer
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 02:08 PM by DemReadingDU
We wouldn't be in this mess if you guys did your job!

edit - added Vollmer's name to subject

About Andrew Vollmer -
1/21/09 The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced the appointment of Andrew N. Vollmer as the agency's Acting General Counsel. Mr. Vollmer succeeds Brian Cartwright, who left the agency this week to return to the private sector.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2009/2009-9.htm
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:48 PM
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82. YES OR NO Question!
:)
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 01:51 PM
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83. How can Vollmer cite Executive Privilege?
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 01:52 PM by DemReadingDU
:shrug:


edit:
Then Ackerman: I thought Madoff was corrupt(?), I think now it is you Mr. Vollmer
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:02 PM
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85. Wow. I had a phone call and missed that.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:04 PM
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86. Linda Thomsen SEC Enforcement Director

We get so many complaints, thousands and thousands, we can't enforce them all

Huh? Isn't that their job!!!

Congresswoman Melissa Bean to Thomsen - How do you determine which ones not to go after? Like Madoff? How did it slip thru the cracks when there were multiple complaints!
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:07 PM
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87. Holy Shit
I recused myself because a former employee of mine got married into the Madoff family and I went to the wedding!

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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:10 PM
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88. As Markopolos said earlier - We need a totally new SEC

those with experience with grey hair or no hair. lol
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:22 PM
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89. UNBELIEVABLE. Thomsen said the IG is in the process of determining
whether Markopolos is "credible". Holy Shit.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:24 PM
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90. who appoints these goat fuckers?
:nuke:

How can they refuse to answer questions?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:25 PM
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91. They need to be subpoenaed (did I spell that right?).
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:26 PM
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92. they need their asses kicked six ways from Sunday
I want blood.

:nuke:
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:29 PM
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94. It's obvious he just made a lucky guess ten years early.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:29 PM
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93. This is truly an astounding hearing. If there had been anything remotely like this in the last 8
This is how Government keeps our contry on track - this is how regulators are supposed to be held to account.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 02:47 PM
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96. Yes it was. Over now.

Thanks to all the participants!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 08:59 PM
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98. How simple truth is ... it's the lies that take so long ...
not to mention cover-ups ...
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 09:16 PM
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99. kickin this one back up
:kick:
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