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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 05:57 PM
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i think President Obama is getting pissed at republics
Now, let me say this. In the past few days, I've heard criticisms of this plan that, frankly, echo the very same failed theories that helped lead us into this crisis in the first place, the notion that tax cuts alone will solve all our problems, that we can address this enormous crisis with half-steps, and piecemeal measures, and tinkering around the edges, that we can ignore fundamental challenges like the high cost of health care and still expect our economy and our country to thrive.

I reject these theories. And, by the way, so did the American people when they went to the polls in November and voted resoundingly for change.

(APPLAUSE)

So -- so I urge members of Congress to act without delay. No plan is perfect. And all of us together, Democrats and Republicans, should work to make it stronger.

But let's not make the perfect the enemy of the essential. Let's show people all over our country, who are looking for leadership, who are desperate for leadership right now, that in difficult times we're equal to the task, and to give America's families the support they need to weather this crisis.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/04/AR2009020402887_pf.html
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 05:58 PM
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1. Good. You can't make deals with those fuckers.
The sooner he learns that the better.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 05:58 PM
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2. i concur
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 05:58 PM
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3. I think Obama is a fast learner.
I hope he's a fast learner. We don't have a lot of time.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 05:46 AM
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20. I disagree
He always knew. He's just giving them enough rope to hang themselves. Let them spew their rubbish. By the time the people and Pres Obama are finished with them they will be sent packing to the garbage dumps and not one of those old white elephants will be recycled.

I still don't get the Greg Judd appointment but who knows maybe the Dems themselves will reject his appointment and that would be priceless.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:00 PM
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4. (shrug) He sounded right in line with what he himself told us we could expect...
Of course there's always the issue of whether or not people were listening, rather than poutraging, but that's a question each person can only answer for themselves.

http://www.dailykostv.com/v/000176.html
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:00 PM
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5. I thought his we can all get along talk in the campaign. Naive.
Bill Clinton fought their obstruction and hell bent desire to destroy the government in 1993. It will be no different now. If Obama does not go on the attack, I fully expect a GOP repeat of 1994, when the neo liberals took over the Congress and started the national decline.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:01 PM
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6. i thought it was admirable and still do, i just think the pubs are bad guys
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:23 PM
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14. Sounded good.
But, still naive. Maybe in the Ill. senate there are a couple ?. of rational Republicans. But, less than a handful in the US Senate. He's had to work with them. They've all signed their Grover Norquist pledge of purity. I always thought if he mean't it, he'd be eaten alive. I suspect he'll be a quick learner and if he has to ; he'll shame them .. If not. we're all screwed.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:03 PM
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7. He has met the enemy and they ain't us.
They are the Republicans who are cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:04 PM
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8. Publicans still think tjhey can do what they always do - lie solemnly, say the Dems
will lead to disaster. They are still losing support with this strategy, and I hope they continue it till there are no more Publicans left.

Wait till the next congressional election and see how many more seats they lose.
mark
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:04 PM
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9. I highly doubt it
President Obama knew what he was getting into. This is not any kind of new lesson for him. I never believed for one minute he actually thought he could go to Washington and expect any support at all from the GOP this early in the game - if at all.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:08 PM
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10. Obama is reaching out and
giving them a chance..if they blow it, it's not his problem.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:15 PM
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11. He's reaching out alright, with both hands.......
I was hoping he'd reach out with just the 1 hand and pack a baseball bat in the other.



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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:15 PM
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12. great picture.....lol
:rofl:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:16 PM
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13. He should know better! Republicans always created a big mess and
when democrats gain control and start cleaning up their mess, the republicans sit back on their big fat hemorrhoid asses and point their shit stained fingers at the democrats.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:31 PM
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15. the Republicans do nothing alone..
I think that is a big part of the problem. We may be the majority as far as votes go, but in managing perception the Republicans have it hands down. And people still believe what they see on the tv screen. It is the focal point of all conversation. No one even knows what's in the stimulus package, they just know what they're supposed to be against. Obama will die on his own, but if he is to survive he has to have support. It's not looking good.
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:38 PM
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16. SOOOOO TRUE!!!!!!!!!
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 06:42 PM
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17. I think he is covering his bases
so that down the road he can say he tried, and they were impossible to deal with .

They wont be able to deny it
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 05:41 AM
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18. Republicans will spin this, and they already started. When this is all
over and the country is even deeper in debt, it will be all caused by democrats. They're already pointing their fingers at the democrats for having the balls to do what's necessary to clean up what they have caused. This is what they do. I have seen this all before.

The cons goal is to run up huge deficits and do away with FDR's new deal programs that keep the working class from being over a barrel. Their main goal is either we'll work cheap or starve.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 05:45 AM
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19. He took the Red Pill .......... Welcome to the desert of the real
Don't expect bipartisanship from the party of obstructionists who hate government, and want to destroy it.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 05:55 AM
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21. Nothin wrong with walkin the extra mile
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:05 AM
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22. and the democrats too, i'll bet. the dems could screw up a sure thing.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:12 AM
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23. Chess Vs. Checkers
Last year we saw two Americas...the one inside the beltway and the one outside. President Obama went outside and won...he's now on the inside where they still haven't gotten the message. You have a fractured repugnican party still in serious denial along with the corporate media that wants to let this new Administration know "whose boss". It's a game President Obama is well aware of and I see some of his actions here to disarm the later while building up support from the former.

If there's one thing that unites Americans these days, it's our distrust of the media. The fact President Obama is trying to reach out and draw some consensus may be anethema to the bobbleheads, but it's impressing those who matter most...the electorate. The repugnicans need to make some sort of stand or else they will crumble...both as a voting bloc and a party. They don't know which way to go, but they know they don't want Democrats and President Obama to succede since it will doom them to minority status or worse for years to come. To them, compromising is admitting the failures of not just the last 8 years, but the "Raygun Revolution" they still worship at. While they can brush off election losses, they can't stand for the ultimate repudiation of St. Ronnie.

Those who stand in the way of any stimulus package is doing so at their political risk. Some can afford it, but those who can't will be the ones who put sense ahead of rhetoric and we'll see a bill move out of the Senate. These people don't go rushing for microphones...if anything they need to be low profile right now. We saw them voting yesterday, REJECTING, all the repugnican ammendments by more than 60 votes.

This recover won't happen quickly and it won't happen with one bill...there's too many messes going on. The big thing is to stop the bleeding of foreclosures and debt that is freezing up credit that is paralyzing business and putting more people out of work. The junk has to be either isolated or written off and solvency and confidence restored to the banking system to get the economy moving. Next, then we need to decide how to build...the real stimulus of spending in rebuilding infrastructure, assisting small businesses to create competition and jobs and restore a vibrant and prospering middle class.
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