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Thu Feb-05-09 07:28 PM
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Dean will not be HHS secretary. |
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He's not post-partisan. Believe me when I say that I would love it were it to happen. But it won't.
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:29 PM
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1. was HRC post-partisan? |
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What does post partisan mean, anyway? Someone who was not part of the partisanship of the last dozen or so years? Daschle? BIDEN?
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:31 PM
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:34 PM
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"post partisan" means "comforting Republicans". Same with HRC. Biden who?
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:38 PM
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13. "comforting Republicans" ...LOL good one. |
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:hi:
That is EXACTLY what Post Partisan is.
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:39 PM
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15. Aid and comfort to the enemy, then |
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:41 PM
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18. not sure how you mean this. |
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Are you saying that being partisan is giving aid and comfort to the GOP?
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:43 PM
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20. No. I'm saying that "comforting republicans" is giving aid and comfort to the enemy |
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:45 PM
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:48 PM
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:40 PM
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"I'm sorry the rational folks among us feel bad because your party fucked the country six ways from Sunday, but let's set that aside for now. Why don't I bend over and spread my legs just to show there's no hard feelings, huh?"
THAT'S post-partisanship!
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:30 PM
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2. Of course it wouldn't happen |
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Because it's a good thing.
Speaking of "post-partisan," does it look post-partisan to anyone out there?
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:32 PM
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4. You know what is "post-partisan?" Professionalism. |
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Being able to do your job with people that you might not agree with on personal matters.
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:36 PM
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we follow many years of Republican rapine with a few years of Democratic "professionalism" (watch the discussion creep to the right!), followed by...?
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:51 PM
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25. Professionalism doesn't just define behavior ... |
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... it defines expectations too.
Meaning we expect better.
At least I do.
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:00 PM
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26. imagine this: you're in a really interesting book club |
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with a guy who insists on reading nothing but The Bridges of Madison County over and over, and who threatens to beat up those who want to read anything else. Is "expecting better" making nice with this fool, or is it, once the book is read and known to be trash, telling him to shut the fuck up and reading something worthwhile?
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:03 PM
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27. It's a standard that disqualifies your disrupter from membership. |
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Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 08:05 PM by ColbertWatcher
And no one will take him seriously or include him in any more functions.
Professionalism requires discipline too.
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:05 PM
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28. so, when we're confronted with a party |
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whose singular reply to any situation is "TAX CUTS!", what are we to do with them?
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:16 PM
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29. You don't really expect me to solve that in one post do you? |
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I don't have the answer to that and I won't pretend that I do.
All I know is that we should be raising the level of discourse and not putting up with anymore childish bullshit from the GOP or letting any of it pass without destroying it.
In a professional manner, of course.
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:21 PM
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30. I think the answer is easier than you seem to think it is. |
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One doesn't unilaterally disarm in the middle of a war.
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:42 PM
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35. I don't see how being professional is "disarming." |
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Unless you mean it the respectful type of "disarming" and not the "disarming" where you surrender all your defenses.
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:48 PM
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36. I don't think you understand what we're up against. |
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Eight years of Bush and people still envision this happy-dippy world in which the Republicans are jumping out of their skins to do their best by the American people? Dear god.
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:57 PM
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37. You assume I don't because I'm not agreeing with you. I'm done here. n/t |
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Thu Feb-05-09 09:14 PM
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It's entirely possible to fail to agree with me and yet understand what we face. Adios.
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:33 PM
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5. Correct me if I'm wrong . |
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Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 07:34 PM by Why Syzygy
.but when he signed the health plan in VT, he had a republican't congress.
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:33 PM
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6. Everything has to be "post-partisan" since the Republics are not in the majority. |
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:38 PM
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12. after all, they're nice fellows who'd treat us the same were the tables turned. |
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:38 PM
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14. Isn't that the truth. |
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:35 PM
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sometimes Obama has been known to surprise. He needs someone who can work with and sway the Democrats from conservative districts/states and the few remaining moderate Republicans. Could Howard Dean do this? I am skeptical but I like him so much I would be willing to take the chance.
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:36 PM
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9. I think our new President is learning... |
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the republics in congress aren't post-partisan either.
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:45 PM
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21. it's funny, but I seem to remember a time, not so long ago, |
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when playing nice with the GOP - to the point of nearly joining their party - got us kicked repeatedly in the balls.
Oh yeah! It was the Clinton years!
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:50 PM
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24. It seems he's getting the express version of the same lesson. |
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I hope he takes it to heart. He seems like a fast learner.
Time will tell...
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:37 PM
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11. Are the rethuglicans "post partisan"?? |
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Fuck no.
and FUCK THEM.
Bring on Howard Dean!
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:41 PM
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17. none of his picks have been post partisan |
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Thu Feb-05-09 07:42 PM
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19. *cough* Judd Gregg *cough* deal to replace with Repuke *cough* |
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:32 PM
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31. Is that like being post-modern? nt |
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:33 PM
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32. post-modernism is a barrel of shit too. |
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Thu Feb-05-09 08:34 PM
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33. Hey, I gave it to you on platter! nt |
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