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Thu Feb-05-09 09:52 PM
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Only history will tell... but either the Republicans have been played for fools |
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thank god they don't learn from history... or they have won a moral victory.
By the way, put as many quotation marks as you feel necessary around the world moral.
Anyhow... back in 1933 the Republicans fought the New Deal tooth and nail. Sound familiar? And the media back then did the same game. They did help to frame the debate early on to say that this guv'ment spending was socialist, and stupid, as well as guv'ment waste... cue in Lindsey Graham, or perhaps McCain. Does not matter really... same words really... same fear tactics
So we know the score at home
We all fear the loss of jobs and thank the few we have.
So history will tell
My gut... this will pass... and it will work... and the GOP will once again, have decades to rebuild their ideology and new programs to kill... we are seeing shadows of FDR, just as FDR had to fight 25 years of right wing, trickle down economics
Just remember, this is not trickle down, that is pee falling on you.
Ah history... can I get off this rerun please?
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Thu Feb-05-09 09:54 PM
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1. We forget that the media has always been the property of the rich. |
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Thu Feb-05-09 09:56 PM
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We forget our own power. The MSM would LOVE for us to, but we can't. Let's fight for this. We WILL win!
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Thu Feb-05-09 09:58 PM
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4. Why we got the Fairness Doctrine back then |
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I am betting on something to that effect before this is over.
Breaking the media is on my agenda
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Thu Feb-05-09 10:06 PM
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9. how can we over power the media? they are one big problem. |
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Thu Feb-05-09 11:31 PM
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13. Bust 'em up...like Standard Oil.. |
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Thu Feb-05-09 11:32 PM
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14. Every time I get all wrapped up in how bad the modern media are, |
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I remember the accounts in the papers of things like the Haymarket Square massacre, in which some cops shot each other and then turned their guns on the striking workers. The paper portrayed the cops as acting in self-defense after the workers fired on them. It was ever thus. And these days, we have the Internet to fight back with.
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Thu Feb-05-09 11:35 PM
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15. that's not what the people in the media say... |
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and why would/should they lie...?
oh. yeah.
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Thu Feb-05-09 09:55 PM
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I agree with you. My gut says this will pass and it will work. We may face trials ahead during President Obama's administration, but we've won this one. That being said, I would like to encourage all of those reading this to contact your Senators first thing tomorrow AM. Let them know that they need to pass this!
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Thu Feb-05-09 09:59 PM
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will mention that they need to put teeth back into Wagner and reject the 1947 RIGHT TO WORK laws
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Thu Feb-05-09 10:00 PM
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6. The louder the repubs squawk, the more they remind Americans that their |
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policies are responsible for this mess.
So Obama tried to play nice and give them a chance to redeem themselves. They chose not to take that opportunity. That's just fine. Now we'll see how things go when repub policies are NOT part of the package.
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Thu Feb-05-09 10:01 PM
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7. Well Obama read all them dusty books on the New Deal |
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and ahem, Lincoln's presidency
This is the same playbook of the first 100 days of the FDR administration
Not play for play, but pretty damn close...
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Thu Feb-05-09 10:02 PM
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8. "like pee falling on you"...that is for sure |
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Obama gave them a chance to help work on this and they blew it. It will pass and they will have no part in the recovery.
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Thu Feb-05-09 10:10 PM
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10. Obama has stretched out his hand to the repigs, and they did not take it. |
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I think he knows where they are coming from, they are opposed to change, and want their tax cuts and damn the American people. They are up against a popular President and they are irrelevant all the more reason for myself to support this President and his agenda for changing the old ways of politics.
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Thu Feb-05-09 10:16 PM
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11. He can now say I gave it the old college try but the Rethugs |
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Thu Feb-05-09 10:18 PM
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12. He extended the hand in a way that was brilliant, like a fox |
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it allowed them to pain themselves as the same obstructionist party to progressive polices they were back in 1933
It shows Obama read all that material on FDR... and that the RNC learned nothing
Then again... CONSERVATIVES may be programmed to do that.
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