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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:57 PM
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Can someone explain to me how the unemployment statistics
as we have them today are misleading as to understating the true level of unemployment? thanks in advance.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:00 PM
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1. The statistic does not count those who have given up looking or have taken a part-time job.
Reality is worse than the unemployment figure suggests.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:03 PM
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3. You Betcha!
I think a truly accurate count would surprise even us, not to mention the UNDER-EMPLOYED.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:03 PM
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4. Yes, there are millions of people who are underemployed
They have run out of benefits and taken any job available just to have some income.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:28 PM
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9. Doesn't count non-violent drug users in prison and their useless guards either
Probably more significant than fudged numbers in determining our differences from the rest of the industrialized world.
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:02 PM
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2. Bureau of Labor Statistics
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:04 PM
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5. Right, but long ago, the stats were more accurate - didn't Reagan
initiate some sort of changes to the method of collecting the stats which rendered them less useful, but made employment stats look better?
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:25 PM
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8. are you thinking
of the birth/death model?? started using it in 2000???
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:28 PM
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10. Yeah, that may be it.
I just recall that a while back, it was compiled differently, and over time, it's been neutered so as not to embarrass whoever is the current occupant of the Oval Office.
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TimesSquareCowboy Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:38 PM
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11. Well, Clinton did, too.
And the reporting is not for every employer - the BLS takes the actual numbers they have and guesses at how many additional jobs were created. There's a columnist in the NY Post who's been covering this and other government statistics fudging for a long time, it's interesting to read.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:06 PM
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6. The numbers don't
indicate the people that have never had a job because they are just now entering the work force.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:16 PM
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7. That's a good point. New grads from undergraduate, law, business schools.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:23 PM
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12. Short answer: When your unemployment runs out they quit counting you
Doesn't matter if you are still looking for a job or not.
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TimesSquareCowboy Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 04:07 PM
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13. I posted an article that puts the real number at 13.9%
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 04:08 PM
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14. Ah, right - thanks!
n/t
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