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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:00 PM
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Reid cut a deal on the bailout. Translation, he caved.
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 06:02 PM by backscatter712
The headline's on the Huffington Post.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/politics/

Dig a little deeper, and you find the skinny on what's been cut.

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/stimulus-package/latest-cuts-to-the-stim-package-head-start-child-nutrition-food-stamps-public-transit/


Total Reductions: $80 billion

Eliminations:

Head Start, Education for the Disadvantaged, School improvement, Child Nutrition, Firefighters, Transportation Security Administration, Coast Guard, Prisons, COPS Hiring, Violence Against Women, NASA, NSF, Western Area Power Administration, CDC, Food Stamps

*****************************

Reductions:

Public Transit $3.4 billion, School Construction $60 billion

*****************************

Increases:

Defense operations and procurement, STAG Grants, Brownfields, Additional transportation funding


Yep, food stamps are out. Head Start is out. Everything useful is out. But increased defense spending got in.

Fuck you Reid, you spineless sack of garbage! You're worse than useless!!! Totally subhuman!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:01 PM
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1. If this is true Reid should be gone.
What a joke.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:02 PM
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2. It'll either be re-added in conference to fit with the House bill
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 06:02 PM by Hawkeye-X
or the bill's dead. House won't move a inch - and Reid - do us all a favor and RESIGN FROM MAJORITY LEADER!!!

Let us find someone with the cajones to do the job.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:08 PM
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9.  the only person with the balls to smack down the thugs is a lady
boxer should lead the senate...


reid is a complete fool
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:23 PM
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18. Damn straight!!
Reid needs to go. I don't understand how someone with no spine can walk upright.
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IGotAName Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:05 PM
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42. Did you see this?
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-barbara-boxer6-2009feb06,0,6742247.story

I'm the first to come to her defense but she sure ain't perfect. Knows an opportunity when she sees one.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:14 PM
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44. "reid is a complete fool" -- you misspelled TOOL. (nt)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:04 PM
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3. C-SPAN stopped showing the Senate. When will the main vote happen?
I just hope this gets passed before more is cut out and then we can try to get those other things back in other legislation.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:05 PM
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4. And we are willing to deal on this...why?
Oops, almost forgot! ($$$)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:06 PM
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5. the people have been sold out by their leadership in the senate
why would we expect them to care?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:06 PM
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6. Reid is weak senator and not a leader.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:08 PM
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7. I'm cool with TSA funding being slashed, but - VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN?
Are you fucking kidding me? Who in their right mind would want to see that funding slashed?

I'm feeling a little weary right now...
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:08 PM
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8. What's really disgusting...
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 06:09 PM by backscatter712
Reid again leaked out "A deal is made" before the deal was made. It'll probably come to a vote tonight, but who knows if the soulless fucks in the GOP will actually let their two cross-aisle senators on board.

So it might come to a vote and not make cloture. I'm sure Rush is wringing his hands in delight...

Like I said, Reid is totally fucking useless. Any negotiator worth his salt knows you don't say you've got the goods unless you've got the goods, or you've got a bluff that you're sure won't be called out. If he's bluffing, he's gonna get called out and sodomized in front of the entire country.
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hankthecrank Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:10 PM
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10. re pubs wet dream(these cuts) what did he get for it zippo
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:12 PM
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11. I'm fucking tired of the spineless Reid.
Goddamn! :grr: :grr: :grr:
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:14 PM
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12. Great...just great.
Dumb down America and let the poor starve by cutting vital services. And hey, who gives a shit if women get beaten within an inch of their lives? :sarcasm:

These people are fucking crooks.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:15 PM
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13. We have a strong Pres and VP, we should have someone strong
who'll support them. Reid needs to go! Why can't the other Dems keep him in line. Since he's not 'leading' can't they lead him by example?
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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:18 PM
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15. Agree - what's it going to take to dump Reid?
Tough times call for tough people.
I vote for Barbara Boxer. Someone who's going to stand up and call them out.
Look at that cut list!

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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:09 PM
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47. Don't know about VP Biden ...
but President Obama seemed more interested in wooing Republicans during his honeymoon, than in paying attention to those who elected him.

A divorce might be in order, if he doesn't veto this 'build a higher' pie nonsense and rip Mr. Profit away from the jugular of people who work for a living.
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:15 PM
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14. If true, Republicans and Reid need to go. Why is education the fall guy?
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 06:16 PM by kiranon
It is American genius/know how/innovative ideas that fuels our good times and our ingenuity needs good schools if it is to flower. Kids with disabilities such as autism/Aspergers are our future inventors, scientists, artists, musicians, mathematicians and nobel prize winners. Head Start works and helps many children make it when they otherwise would not. Republicans go after education because an educated public won't vote for them. They need all the idiots they can find to get and stay in power.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:27 PM
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24. 'Cause an edumacated population might get, y'know, "idears". (NT)
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:20 PM
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16. What a man!
Let's hope the rest of the good things that Harry pissed away can be put forth and be paid for later on.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:23 PM
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17. They were going to drop some of the tax cuts. Did that not happen? n/t
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:23 PM
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19. This bs will continue until Dems bite the bullet & abolish the filibuster.
Stop giving 41 senators the power to stop anything.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:39 PM
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34. Our problem is with Reid and Pelosi . . . not with filibuster . . .!!!
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 07:39 PM by defendandprotect
DLC and "Blue Dogs" --- and with those Dems protecting establishment interests and

corporations!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:24 PM
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20. I hope it doesn't pass in that form then - and REID NEEDS TO GO! n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:24 PM
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21. He always does (cave). (NT)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:25 PM
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22. Now, can we have demonstrations and storm the Bastille?
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:26 PM
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23. Boxer or Kerry for Majority Leader
Time to mount the challenge.

As in NOW!!!!!!!
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:29 PM
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25. This bs will continue until Dems bite the bullet & abolish the filibuster.
Stop allowing 41 senators to stop anything.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:38 PM
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26. Calling it a cave is an understatement. Defense? Procurement?
:wtf:

Ayup - FUCK YOU Reid you spineless coward.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:42 PM
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27. Shameful. Step on the defenseless poor, while we spend more on "defense".
Way to carry that big stick, Harry.

:eyes:
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:43 PM
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28. While y'all are roasting Reid on a spit
(and I'm not going to stop you because he deserves it)

You might want to start up a grill for a few more democratic Senators that sold us out, as they do time and time again....Feinstein and Ben Nelson. All of this extra military spending can be put right on Nelson's doorstep...that was his baby, and Reid went with it. Nelson NEVER works for the Dems...never, which apparently makes him this powerful?

We have got to control these blue dogs and DLCers that insist on stopping any legislation that has any meaning and running to the Republicans, even when the pukes are being belligerent.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:27 PM
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29. Obama should write them all back in with signing statements.
Or is that wrong now that the President is a Dem? Do it anyway in the hopes that some pukes will blow a few blood vessels.

President Obama, you got this. Show Senator Reid what a spine looks like.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:55 PM
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37. Obama will NEVER do that. sorry. that is not who he is.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:00 PM
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38. Yeah, I am sorry too. nt
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:31 PM
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30. None of that crap..
.. belongs in an emergency stimulus bill. Not it, OR the defense spending.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:34 PM
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31. Reid caved again --- right!!
Just like having the GOP in charge . . .

oops! they seem to be!!

Disgusting ---

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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:37 PM
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32. Let me see if I get this straight. Democrats are the party in power,
controlling the White House, the Senate and House. Why on earth does Reid have to cut a deal on anything with a repug? Let the gop members stroke out with uncontrollable rage. Marginalize them as they should be. Time to crack some skulls here.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:38 PM
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33. Hope Reid gets a ton of e-mail and telephone messages on this --- !!!
The list of those now excluded makes more than clear who the Dems are ignoring!

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:47 PM
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35. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you
:sarcasm:
:sarcasm:
:sarcasm:
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:47 PM
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36. I thought that with a strong
and popular President and VP, a strong majority in the House and a near filibuster proof majority in the Senate we could count on Reid to start standing up to the Republickers, guess I thought wrong.:-( :-( :-(
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:03 PM
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39. Reid caved because Obama made him
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 08:04 PM by Enrique
Obama said the time for talk is over! We need a bill NOW! Cut a DEAL with these mofos. I'll send my boy Rahm to help you do what you gotta do. I'm fired UP!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:03 PM
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40. Harry Reid is a gutless scumbag. If he got beat by a Puke in 2010, I wouldn't cry
We'll pick up enough seats in the Senate to have a 63-67 seat Majority after the Pukes fuck up everything Obama tries to accomplish.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:04 PM
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41. Obama wanted this deal
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:08 PM
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43. They cut out ALL of the important social programs and up defense? Bullshit
Reid caved.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:20 PM
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45. Reid caved because Obama told him to cave
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bevoette Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:25 PM
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46. i have to confess something...
i just went OFF on a rant to my husband about "it's no WONDER democrats can't win big - people like Obama (and Clinton) are exceptions, most of these people couldn't lead a lemming!!!"

i mean...WTF??

weak
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:12 PM
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48. Here's the problem... why bother voting? You think I'm kidding
mark my words, the PEOPLE gave these fucking cowards a MANDATE... they don't, people will stay home in 2010... or worst
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