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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:32 PM
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'Christians Reviving America's Values': Obama's simulus package the end of his credibility?
Edited on Mon Feb-09-09 03:33 PM by Bluebear
What. A. Load.


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Obama Stimulus Package--End of His Credibility?

Contact: Don Swarthout, President, Christians Reviving America's Values CRAVE, 859-219-1222, 859-619-2811 cell

WASHINGTON, Feb. 9 /Christian Newswire/ -- President Barack Obama was quoted in the Washington Post saying if Congress does not pass his Stimulus Bill right away, "Our nation will slip deeper into a crisis that, at some point we may not be able to reverse."

These are very strong words, but what if the Stimulus Package simply does not work?

Many of our nations leading Economists disagree about whether the Stimulus Package is guaranteed to work. It is certain that our nation's economy is in trouble, but will getting behind an unpopular Stimulus Package be the beginning of the end for President Obama?

The fact is, the Stimulus Package may not actually achieve any of its purported goals.

What if we continue to see an Economic slump and the Stimulus Package does not create anywhere near the number of new jobs which Obama has promised? What if the American public decides it is against the large number of pork barrel spending provisions of this package and Democrats are the same as Republicans?

Don Swarthout, President of Christians Reviving America's Values, CRAVE, said, "This Stimulus Package may actually be Barack Obama's first and only chance to show the world he is right about how to correct our Economic problems in the United States."

Swarthout continued, "We do not seem to remember why we got into this problem in the first place. The reason our current financial problems are because our government forced banks to make mortgage loans to people who could not pay them back. In reality people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should be held accountable and prosecuted for forcing lenders to make these bad loans."

If this Stimulus Package fails will President Obama and all the others who supported it be held accountable and ruined? What if we spend trillions of borrowed tax payer dollars and it turns out to be a huge mistake?

Swarthout said, "I believe we should think long and hard about this before we jump in with both feet."

http://www.earnedmedia.org/crave0209.htm
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:34 PM
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1. What happens if he doesn't get a stimulus package?
nothing.

America wants action, not more fear-mongering crap.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 04:32 PM
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18. I dont think that is entirely accurate
The only way out of this mess is to build our way out of it. Roads, bridges, dams, schools and so on. That is what got us out of the Great Depression. It does not matter if they are painting fire hydrants, or planting trees either. The point is that the unemployed will earn money by doing something that adds value to a community.

What is the alternative? Welfare for nothing, or let them die in the street?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 04:56 PM
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21. That's my whole point.
The conservatives want us to do nothing except maybe give away more of the treasury to the rich with tax reductions. What's better than nothing? Anything. Nothing is unacceptable at this point. and the public no long cares about all the rhetoric about pork and big government. They want action in the form of this spending package.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:36 PM
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2. "CRAVE": isn't that like GLUTTONY? Odd name for a "Christian" group...
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:58 PM
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14. They can CRAVE my cock for all I care...
but CRAVE as they might, YOY Cock is only for Mrs. YOY when she wants it.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:37 PM
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3. Okay, batshit crazy folks have had their turn
And three-quarters of the American people are ready to try something other than batshit crazy. So Mr. Swarthout, why don't you go pour yourself a nice big, steaming cup of shut the fuck up?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:55 PM
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13. All you need is the graphic.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:39 PM
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4. "GOD CALLED ME TO BE A WATCHMAN,AN EVANGELIST and Advocate for the entire world"
From Right wing Watch:


I have grown in my ministry to the point where I believe that religion is the only true answer we have with which to answer the problems America is facing today.

During the past few years I have come to the conclusion that the answer for all of our national problems lies in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. That awakening has led to a tremendous growth in my life. I would love to share what I have learned with your Congregation.

One of the secrets is that as Christians we have a right to expect a government based upon the principles of Christianity instead of a government based upon the lies of the devil.

Yet another secret is the principles of good government are exactly the same principles as the principles of Christianity.

If you would like to invite me to speak to your Church Congregation or to your organization you may contact me at 859/219-1222 to verify a potential date to have me speak in your facility. ( don't forget to robo call his cell phone.....LOL)

GOD CALLED ME TO BE A WATCHMAN, AN EVANGELIST AND AN ADVOCATE FOR THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA AND FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/individuals/don-swarthout
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:11 PM
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22. ---
:puke:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:41 PM
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5. President Obama never had any 'cred' with these people
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:47 PM
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6. They need a name change to "Christians Reviving America's Principles"
:evilgrin:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:50 PM
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10. LOL! n/t
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 04:03 PM
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16. Or "Christians Understand Nothing Today."
More to the point.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:49 PM
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7. But if it does work, we know who this idiot
will give all the credit to. Barney Frank is the whipping boy for all rethugs right now. He is being blamed for all the country's ills. Was it Hannity or Limpy's talking points that started this? The all-powerful Barney Frank single-handedly took the country in the wrong direction. He forced all those banks to give people loans who didn't deserve it and that ONE THING caused all of this trouble just in the last 2 years since Dems are in control. And the brilliant bush was powerless to stop him. Cuz, like "everyone knows" that bush had a pretty good economy until the Dems took over. "Barney Frank and his cronies" is what I keep hearing from the brainwashed masses.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:49 PM
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8. Fuck Off. Elections Have Consequences. We Have A Mandate. It is your patriotic duty to support
your Commander in Chief.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:49 PM
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9. Elegantly stated. Please email him :)
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:51 PM
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11. shall we also revive christian values such as slavery/the holocaust? CRAVEn is more like it nt
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:54 PM
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12. See! I knew my fears were true all along!!
Swarthout is proof that too much masturbation pickles your brain! He's living proof!!

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Seriously, where do these guys come from? :eyes:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 04:00 PM
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15. Basically fuck ups to partied too much and then sobered up with help from Jesus.
Now everyone who still parties/partied responsibly needs to have Jesus too.

Those folks, their kids, and the shills who cash in on them...that's where they come from.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 04:32 PM
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17. We hear this talking point from
the right wing talking heads every day. "In reality people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should be held accountable and prosecuted for forcing lenders to make these bad loans."

When is someone going to correct these nuts? Nearly half the country goes around repeating this nonsense and they believe it wholeheartedly.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 04:48 PM
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19. Ever see the movie Seven? I wish Kevin Spacey's character would
come back and take care of these greedy, overbearingly prideful hypocrites.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 04:54 PM
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20. I am so sick of these ..
damm people what in the hell is their plan, do nothing? I am so sick and tired of this tax shit. So in what they are telling us is that if they give some people a tax cut they will create jobs and therefore hire more people that is bull. What about all of the people who lost jobs, how will the tax cut help them.
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