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Mon Feb-09-09 08:50 PM
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Helen!!....... She knows Israeli has nukes and wants Obama |
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:51 PM
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1. "So-called terrorists" |
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:52 PM
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2. God Bless Helen Thomas |
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The problem is, Obama knows damn well Israel has nukes, but he won't admit it.
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:52 PM
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3. Helen's the best journalist in the room n/t |
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Mon Feb-09-09 09:22 PM
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17. Odds are she's the only journalist in the room (eom) |
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Tue Feb-10-09 06:56 PM
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:52 PM
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That's what I thought too. Good for her! And her "so-called terrorist" line, complete with eye-roll was priceless!
I love Helen!
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:52 PM
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5. He's one hell of a dancer. |
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Tapped right over Israel all the way to Moscow.
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Mon Feb-09-09 09:01 PM
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11. Several long examples of dancing around |
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Making great moves but avoiding contact with the question itself
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Mon Feb-09-09 09:01 PM
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12. Did you think he wouldn't? |
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Good luck making that man say something he doesn't want or intend to.
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:55 PM
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6. I'm glad DU caught the nuance of Helen's question |
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It was much deeper than it seemed.
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Mon Feb-09-09 09:00 PM
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9. Oh, I got it. So did he. Did very well with it. |
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:58 PM
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7. LOL, Helen's pretty much the only honest person in the room. Most balls, too! nt |
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:59 PM
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8. Fuckin A! Helen is thee best. |
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Mon Feb-09-09 09:00 PM
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10. I wish he had called on her first. |
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Mon Feb-09-09 09:11 PM
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14. He needed to warm up first. She's older and far more experienced in these things. |
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We caught her inference immediately, though I expect most people don't consider Israel *in* the M.E., thanks to our fabulous edumacashunal sistum.
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Mon Feb-09-09 09:26 PM
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Tue Feb-10-09 06:07 PM
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35. Since he called on her when he did.. |
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she was remembered more..it was perfect timing.
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Mon Feb-09-09 09:11 PM
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13. She's objective, and that's what I admire most about her. |
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Edited on Mon Feb-09-09 09:12 PM by Individualist
She asks the tough questions whether the President is a Democrat or republican.
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Mon Feb-09-09 09:12 PM
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15. Obama is not going to speculate |
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:54 PM
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32. She recovered from an illness, right? |
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Tue Feb-10-09 04:42 PM
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19. "Strategy of ambiguity (aka, policy of opacity)" goes back to '67. Way to avoid the NPT |
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which was being negotiated at the same time Israel was screwing together its first deliverable warhead. First bomb was completed just before Israel launched its preemptive first-strike against Egypt and Syria. Ace up its sleave.
And, Israel raises hell because its neighbors have also taken steps to acquire nuclear weapons.
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Tue Feb-10-09 04:45 PM
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20. So that was why he did a "moving right along" feint |
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And I was hoping that she would be restored to her rightful place as the first journalist to ask a question.
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Tue Feb-10-09 04:50 PM
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21. I'm confused. I thought everyone knows Israel has nukes? |
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My first impression when I heard her question was: "What?? Nobody told Helen??"
And then to hear Obama answer without mentioning Israel?
That was just weird, to me.
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:09 PM
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23. I think everyone knows, but it's not ever admitted publicly. I seem |
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to recall that Jimmy Carter caused a stir a while ago when he said that Israel has nukes.
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:10 PM
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24. Of course everyone "knows" Israel has nukes... |
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but it isn't "official". No one admits it, certainly not our politicians. And Israel has never admitted it.
She was trying to flush Obama out -- see how direct and honest he was really going to be -- see if he had the nerve to say what eveyrone "knows".
Instead, he danced. :(
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:18 PM
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26. Where did they come from? I ask because Israel doesn't have the capability to make them |
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Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 05:19 PM by ThomWV
Israel does not have the facilities, nor enough room in the entire country to house the facilities necessary to produce the materials needed to make a nuclear weapon and barley enough to maintain an arsenal of them.
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:28 PM
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Who wrote the book of love....
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:43 PM
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29. You haven't been paying attention. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev_Nuclear_Research_Center at Dimona. Take a look with Google Earth; you can't miss it! Tesha
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Tue Feb-10-09 06:55 PM
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39. No kidding...but she did stay awake for the whole press conference! |
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:03 PM
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22. I thought that was brilliant of Helen! |
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It was also a very interesting way to find out exactly how straightforward he really is going to be.
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:13 PM
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25. I turned to my wife and said "He will never answer that question" and he never did. |
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:21 PM
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27. The worst part of that question is that she knew in advance that Obama wouldn't answer it. |
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She should have asked something more relevant.
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:45 PM
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30. What she asked was *HIGHLY* relevant. It's at the heart of our bizarre M.E. policy. (NT) |
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:53 PM
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31. Most Americans are ignorant of Israel's nuclear weapons |
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I think that most Americans have no idea that Israel has nuclear weapons.
If it became public knowledge that they do, then the public stance toward our relations in the Middle East could change radically. People could understand the motivation of surrounding nations to acquire nuclear weapons.
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Tue Feb-10-09 05:56 PM
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33. That's what she wanted to point out - that Obama wouldn't answer the question. |
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The answer was good for not answering, but I'm surprised that he didn't correct her on "so-called terrorists". I wonder why he didn't go there.
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Tue Feb-10-09 06:00 PM
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34. It was completely relevent to show us.... |
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how honest Obama is going to be with us. :) Clearly, honest on Israel? Not so much.
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Tue Feb-10-09 06:09 PM
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36. His lack of an answer made it relevant. |
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Tue Feb-10-09 06:18 PM
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so it's worth asking. It's a serious issue. I thought it was one of the best questions of the night.
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Tue Feb-10-09 06:32 PM
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38. I loved it! I look forward to many more piercing questions from Helen. Go, Helen!!!! |
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She pulled off a great reveal of Obama. I hope he ponders it.
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