Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Helen!!....... She knows Israeli has nukes and wants Obama

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:50 PM
Original message
Helen!!....... She knows Israeli has nukes and wants Obama
to know the hypocrisy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
BeachBaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:51 PM
Response to Original message
1. "So-called terrorists"
:rofl:

Rock on, Helen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:52 PM
Response to Original message
2. God Bless Helen Thomas
The problem is, Obama knows damn well Israel has nukes, but he won't admit it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:52 PM
Response to Original message
3. Helen's the best journalist in the room n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. Odds are she's the only journalist in the room (eom)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #17
40. Bingo!!!!
:headbang:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:52 PM
Response to Original message
4. Helen rocks!
That's what I thought too. Good for her! And her "so-called terrorist" line, complete with eye-roll was priceless!

I love Helen!

:loveya:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:52 PM
Response to Original message
5. He's one hell of a dancer.
Tapped right over Israel all the way to Moscow.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. Several long examples of dancing around
Making great moves but avoiding contact with the question itself
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. Did you think he wouldn't?
Good luck making that man say something he doesn't want or intend to.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:55 PM
Response to Original message
6. I'm glad DU caught the nuance of Helen's question

It was much deeper than it seemed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Oh, I got it. So did he. Did very well with it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:58 PM
Response to Original message
7. LOL, Helen's pretty much the only honest person in the room. Most balls, too! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:59 PM
Response to Original message
8. Fuckin A! Helen is thee best.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:00 PM
Response to Original message
10. I wish he had called on her first.
Love Helen!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. He needed to warm up first. She's older and far more experienced in these things.
We caught her inference immediately, though I expect most people don't consider Israel *in* the M.E., thanks to our fabulous edumacashunal sistum.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. Got it.;)
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #10
35. Since he called on her when he did..
she was remembered more..it was perfect timing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:11 PM
Response to Original message
13. She's objective, and that's what I admire most about her.
Edited on Mon Feb-09-09 09:12 PM by Individualist
She asks the tough questions whether the President is a Democrat or republican.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:12 PM
Response to Original message
15. Obama is not going to speculate
Very prudent of him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:13 PM
Response to Original message
16. Helen!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #16
32. She recovered from an illness, right?
I love her, too!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
19. "Strategy of ambiguity (aka, policy of opacity)" goes back to '67. Way to avoid the NPT
which was being negotiated at the same time Israel was screwing together its first deliverable warhead. First bomb was completed just before Israel launched its preemptive first-strike against Egypt and Syria. Ace up its sleave.

And, Israel raises hell because its neighbors have also taken steps to acquire nuclear weapons.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:45 PM
Response to Original message
20. So that was why he did a "moving right along" feint
And I was hoping that she would be restored to her rightful place as the first journalist to ask a question.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
21. I'm confused. I thought everyone knows Israel has nukes?
My first impression when I heard her question was: "What?? Nobody told Helen??"

And then to hear Obama answer without mentioning Israel?

That was just weird, to me.

:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. I think everyone knows, but it's not ever admitted publicly. I seem
to recall that Jimmy Carter caused a stir a while ago when he said that Israel has nukes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. Of course everyone "knows" Israel has nukes...
but it isn't "official". No one admits it, certainly not our politicians. And Israel has never admitted it.

She was trying to flush Obama out -- see how direct and honest he was really going to be -- see if he had the nerve to say what eveyrone "knows".

Instead, he danced. :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #21
26. Where did they come from? I ask because Israel doesn't have the capability to make them
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 05:19 PM by ThomWV
Israel does not have the facilities, nor enough room in the entire country to house the facilities necessary to produce the materials needed to make a nuclear weapon and barley enough to maintain an arsenal of them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. I wonder who?
Who wrote the book of love....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. You haven't been paying attention.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev_Nuclear_Research_Center at Dimona.

Take a look with Google Earth; you can't miss it!

Tesha



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #21
39. No kidding...but she did stay awake for the whole press conference!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:03 PM
Response to Original message
22. I thought that was brilliant of Helen!
It was also a very interesting way to find out exactly how straightforward he really is going to be.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:13 PM
Response to Original message
25. I turned to my wife and said "He will never answer that question" and he never did.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:21 PM
Response to Original message
27. The worst part of that question is that she knew in advance that Obama wouldn't answer it.
She should have asked something more relevant.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. What she asked was *HIGHLY* relevant. It's at the heart of our bizarre M.E. policy. (NT)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Most Americans are ignorant of Israel's nuclear weapons
I think that most Americans have no idea that Israel has nuclear weapons.

If it became public knowledge that they do, then the public stance toward our relations in the Middle East could change radically. People could understand the motivation of surrounding nations to acquire nuclear weapons.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. That's what she wanted to point out - that Obama wouldn't answer the question.
The answer was good for not answering, but I'm surprised that he didn't correct her on "so-called terrorists". I wonder why he didn't go there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. It was completely relevent to show us....
how honest Obama is going to be with us. :) Clearly, honest on Israel? Not so much.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #27
36. His lack of an answer made it relevant.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. It's a new President
so it's worth asking. It's a serious issue. I thought it was one of the best questions of the night.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:32 PM
Response to Original message
38. I loved it! I look forward to many more piercing questions from Helen. Go, Helen!!!!
She pulled off a great reveal of Obama. I hope he ponders it.

sw
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 10:15 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC