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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:34 PM
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McConnell: Stimulus Would Lead to ‘Europeanization’
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/02/10/mcconnell-stimulus-would-lead-to-‘europeanization’/

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) warned on Tuesday that the Senate stimulus plan would lead the country toward “Europeanization.”

McConnell, addressing reporters outside the Senate chamber, said the $838 billion stimulus package would greatly increase the percentage of the Gross Domestic Product that the government spends.

“It’s anticipated, if all of these new spending items that we’re in the process of considering, go through, that government spending in this country as a percentage of gross domestic product in 2010 could well be just under 40 percent,” he said. “Just under 40 percent.”

“This paints a picture of the Europeanization of America,” he went on.

He also took a jab at Democrats. “I know there are many on the other side that think the French, and the Germans and the Italians have got it right, but by maintaining a percentage of GDP and government spending of roughly 20 percent, we continue to have ea vibrant private sector.”
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:35 PM
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1. No doubt mcconnell
goes back 150 generations in American History.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:35 PM
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2. OMFG, the HORROR, excuse me whilst I catch my bullet train. n/t
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:04 PM
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21. and use my high-speed internet
And enjoy my 5 weeks vacation.

And not worry about being bankrupted by medical expenses
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:36 PM
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3. And what's wrong with that?
Is Europe the axis of evil now? (sounds like the attitude of far-RW Brits, actually!)
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:38 PM
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7. they don't speak American there
Obama is going to make us all speak European!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:36 PM
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4. He says that like it's a bad thing.
:evilgrin:
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:53 PM
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12. health care for all and beer in mcdonalds
im down.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:37 PM
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5. I heard that and couldn't believe it.
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 05:44 PM by Marr
To me, that's like just coming out and saying we need a poverty-stricken, desperate underclass. I don't know a single person who's spent any considerable time in western Europe who thinks we're better off than those people. They've figured it out and we *should* be "europeanizing" our system.

And their private sectors are doing just fine-- especially in comparison to us. The only Americans who would be hurt if we adopted a European model would be our Paris Hilton/GW Bush/Bernie Madoff class.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:37 PM
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6. "...vibrant private sector.”" ???
Maybe you need to get out in public more. Maybe meet your real constituents for the first time.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:39 PM
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8. Yet he knows that many provisions *expire* in two years, i.e. they're temporary.
So his straw man argument doesn't even hold up on the facts, regardless of any "danger" of "Europeanization".

:eyes:
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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:40 PM
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9. Every Time A Republican Opens His Mouth
there's utter nonsense that spews out.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:42 PM
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10. Guys like Mitch think this economy is great.
To the manor born republicanism is more like Europe 200 years ago.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:44 PM
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11. Jesus, what a dipshit!
:eyes:
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:54 PM
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13. Sonuvabitch is still looking for the right word
to make it sound evil.... they've tried "spending" and that didn't work... they tried "socialist"... and that didn't work... now they're trying "europeanization"... I've got, when that doesn't work they can call it "sacrilegious" (to fire up the fundie base) or "a threat to national security" (to fire up the rest of their base).

Good to see them floundering.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:52 PM
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31. Yep, Huckabee did it
Another thread just noted that Mike Huckabee indeed took the jump....

"Republican Mike Huckabee, the once and future presidential candidate, is telling supporters that President Obama's stimulus package is anti-religious.

"Why? Because it bans the use of higher education construction grants to modernize, renovate or repair facilities "used for sectarian instruction, religious worship … or a school or department of divinity; or in which a substantial portion of the functions of the facilities are subsumed in a religious mission."
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:54 PM
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14. Oh NOES!!!!! Universal health care Universal higher education
Generous old age pensions and unemployment compensation - a life without constant gnawing fear that tomorrow you could be living in your car trying to survive cancer while keeping up payments on your kids tuition! OH NOES!
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:56 PM
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15. and that is bad because?
oh yeah__ they are ALL evil socialists . We should have it so good!
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ComtesseDeSpair Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:57 PM
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16. We should be so lucky!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:58 PM
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17. Possible, he doesn't want Americans to enjoy the healthcare
and time off associated with Europe?

Interestingly enough though, his wife, in 2004 encouraged work relations with China that he was not concerned about impacting the American GDP in a "Chinesization" way.

"These four agreements broaden the ongoing cooperation between the U.S. Department of Labor and its counterparts in the People's Republic of China. Under these agreements, the agencies reaffirmed their common objectives to ensure economic growth, raise living standards and support greater shared prosperity, foster safe work environments and protect workers rights in accordance with relevant international labor principles while fully respecting the national laws of both the United States and China.

The department's earlier cooperative agreements with China include a $4.1 million grant to support the rule of law and a $2.3 million mine safety and health project."


For our troubles and money we received dog food lines that killed our dogs. Toys that poisoined our children, and a lowered standard of safety. How does that destruction impact our Gross Domestic Policy?

Maybe this doesn't matter at this time, but it is just curious about this man's objections.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:00 PM
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18. That was as intelligent as McConnell's jaw is solid.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:01 PM
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19. Well, the next thing you know, some country like Belgium
will buy out a great Murkin beer company like Budweiser!!1!11

Damn Yurpeens.

Has that chinless asshat ever been outside the borders of this country? The provincialism of some of our nativist Republic politicians is staggering.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:02 PM
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20. I heard him live
Poor fool - at least European governments put their citizens first.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:04 PM
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22. He says "Europeanization" like it's a bad thing.
Let me get this straight. If we become more like Europe, we have stronger social safety nets, we have universal health care, we have lower rates of poverty and homelessness...

Why this would be bad again?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:05 PM
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23. He would prefer a banana republic instead?
A society with a small number of wealthy and many poor people, with high crime and a military state that "disappears" political opponents?
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:06 PM
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24. OMG THOSE EVIL EUROPEANS!!11!!!one!11
So the French, Germans and Italians don't have a vibrant private sector? Republicans are just trying to find the right word to make the stimulus sound bad or evil. It wouldn't surprise me if they started saying things like "this stimulus funds terrorists!" or some other fear mongering nonsense. McConnell and the rest of his ilk need to go do us all a favor by jumping off a skyscraper.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:07 PM
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25. Germans, Italians and French, oh my!
:eyes:


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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:24 PM
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26. Rock on with the jingoistic xenophobia, Republicans.
Worked out so well for you in 06 and 08, gotta stick with what works!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:26 PM
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27. Good. Due to those reforms, Europe's conservatives are wayyyy more liberal than ours.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:29 PM
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28. I could use a little Europeanization
Longer life expectancy, more vacation time, more holidays, you know work/life balance that thing that seems to always be beyond our grasp.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:08 PM
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33. Shorter work weeks....
they're even electing "Teh Gays" to run things efficiently.

Oh Noes!!!!
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:43 PM
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29. Yeah, because Europe is such a soulless, cultureless shithole.
No, wait. That was America under Bush. Sorry!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:45 PM
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30. another reason to vote for it
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:57 PM
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32. You mean we would have universal healthcare and secure pensions?
Frankly, I don't see the problem here!
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