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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:31 PM
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Driving While Black in Small Southern Towns
Long Journal Ahead! You Have Been Warned!

Intro. Sorry I Am Still Angry....

Yes, I know that we are supposed to be over a lot of things. But I am part of Generation JFK, the term I use to describe those of us born between 1956 and 1964. Remember how the Jesuits claim that if you give them a child until age seven, they control his mind forever? I believe that you can lump together any American child (that was not raised Amish or a member of the KKK or a staunch Republican) who was aged 5 (since we grow up so quickly nowadays) at any time during the JFK presidency, assassination or the LBJ presidency that followed in which the martyrdom of JFK was used to win passage of landmark legislation like the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare etc. People from this group seem to me to be especially idealistic but also especially skeptical. They have expectations of the federal government that you do not often see in other groups---except for those who were aged five during the FDR administration. Note that both Obamas fall into this category.

I was born in 1959. My Catholic grandparents in Atlanta had a photo of Jack Kennedy on their wall pre-assassination. My earliest political memory was of him being shot and then of the funeral---it was the first time I recall seeing my father cry. We were in a motel room, traveling across country to live in LA. I can remember every detail of that motel room. After that, I developed my lifelong obsession with politics. By the time I moved to Alabama at age five, I knew all about segregation and George Wallace and what police officers could do to kids with fire hoses. When we drove through Birmingham, I crouched down in the car as if it was 1980s Beirut. Luckily, we were just passing through on our way to Huntsville.

No one has a right to turn hoses or dogs on children. No child should live in a country where the police use such tactics against other kids. It makes young folks grow up fearful of authority. It makes them even more vigilant than the Founders demanded that they be. In some ways, that is a good thing, but it gets tiring, too, always having to watch out for your own elected officials, never trusting them to do the right thing, because you never know when they will do the absolute worst thing that they could possibly do. Like kill a hero or attack children or lie to start a war.

BTW, did I mention that we camped out on the desert on that trip west? I recall sleeping under the stars with my parents and sister. I loved the feeling of being on the open road, having all that space around me. It was like a beach that went on forever.

I. If Someone Tells You Racism Is a Thing of the Past, Put Him in Blackface and Have Him Drive Through Tenaha, Texas

Today’s Fort Worth Star Telegram has a feature that is mostly depressing, though with a tiny ray of hope. The depressing part---for some time, small towns in East Texas have been making money by pulling over out of state African-American motorists, seizing their cars, cash, jewelry on the grounds that the goods are evidence in an ongoing drug investigation. No case is ever filed, but under the law, the owners have to file a civil suit with an attorney to get their stuff back. Since these out of state motorists have jobs and since most of them would probably prefer to never think about much less see another small town in East Texas as long as they live, the Texas highway bandits with badges get to keep the stuff they have stolen.

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/1197211.html

It’s the jackpot seized from any motorist vaguely connected to a police drug investigation. In Tenaha, according to the San Antonio Express-News, police seized money and property even when they never filed cases or documented any evidence.
The mayor of Tenaha says that is all fine with him.
"Anytime you get money you can use in your department to enforce police laws — anything always helps," Mayor George Bowers, 80, said on Lufkin TV station KTRE.


The print version of the story mentions that in Montgomery County, Texas, they used the money to throw a beer and margarita party. Another county “took prosecutors to Hawaii”.

“One county constable alone seized more than $70,000 in a year.”


That little glimmer of hope I mentioned? The state of Texas Senate might do something to crack down on the problem this year, presumably because Texas tourism will suffer if the Obama Department of Justice under new Attorney General Eric Holder steps in to punish these small town pirates.

Oh what a difference a change in administration makes.

II. Get Your Kicks (and Lumps) on Route 66

The ability to get into your car and hit the open road in your prized motor vehicle is a cherished American luxury, as fiercely protected as free speech and religious expression. The network of highways that ribbons the country spells temporary freedom from family strife and day to day care---for most of us. The chance to leave it all behind and make a fresh start in a small town out west---that is the hope that allows us to continue to get out of bed each day.

However, for a minority of U.S. citizens, the only safe places are urban population centers. The nation’s highways might as well be hot stretches of lava if you carry the mark of Abel---the easy target, whom no one will defend.

We have known for decades that police use quotas to target African-American motorists, both for stops and searches.

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/192.html

To summarize: African Americans made up 13.5 percent of the turnpike's population and 15 percent of the speeders. But they represented 35 percent of those pulled over. In stark numbers, blacks were 4.85 times as likely to be stopped as were others.
We did not obtain data on the race of drivers and passengers searched after being stopped or on the rate at which vehicles were searched. But we know from police records that 73.2 percent of those arrested along the turnpike over a 3 1/2-year period by troopers from the area's Moorestown barracks were black--making them 16.5 times more likely to be arrested than others.


We have known for over a decade that it is illegal for law enforcement to use quotas. That has not stopped state and local governments from using them. Here is more on the sad and sorry tale of New Jersey under Gov. Whitman, whom the press has lead us to believe is one of the good Republicans.

http://www.counterpunch.org/drivingblack.html

In fact, Whitman has sedulously ignored the problem for most of her term, insisting that racial profiling is not a practice of the state police. Even after two New Jersey state troopers fired eleven shots into a van carrying four black men on their way to a basketball clinic last winter Whitman clung to her contention that the action was not racially motivated. In 1995 a New Jersey state judge threw out charges against fifteen black drivers who, the judge said, had been pulled over without cause. During the trial it emerged that on a 26-mile long stretch on the southern part of the New Jersey Turnpike minorities accounted for 46 percent of the drivers stopped, even though they were only 15 percent of the speeders.

Whitman also kept her mouth shut in early February when Emblez Longoria, a New Jersey state trooper, filed suit against his department claiming that he was being pressured to make illegal stops of black and hispanic drivers in order to fulfill his arrest quotas. Longoria, who is hispanic, alleges that he was denied promotions and harassed by his superiors when he refused to pull over drivers using racial profiling. Ultimately, Whitman's hand was forced by the racist remarks of Col. Carl Williams, the head of the New Jersey state police. Responding to a report showing that 75 percent of all motorists arrested on the New Jersey Turnpike in the first two months of 1997 were minorities, Williams told the Newark Star-Ledger that cocaine and marijuana traffickers were most likely to be either black or hispanic. Williams was canned, but don't expect much more action than that. The investigation of his Department has been in the hands of Attorney General Peter Verniero, who has fiercely denied that New Jersey cops use profiling. Black leaders in New Jersey have demanded that Verniero's investigation be taken up by an independent panel. But Whitman has refused and instead has nominated Verniero for a spot on the New Jersey Supreme Court.


For all you non-Southern law enforcement types out there, do not get smug. Things are just as bad out on the other coast, in LaLa Land.

In San Diego, the police are ever vigilant to pull over black people driving expensive cars. In October of 1997, a black man named Shawn Lee and his girlfriend were stopped by the California Highway Patrol on Interstate 15. Lee, a member of the San Diego Chargers football team, and his girlfriend were handcuffed and held by police for more than an hour. The patrolman said that they were detained because Lee was driving a car that fit a description of one that had been reported as stolen that night. This story was false. Lee was driving a new Jeep Grand Cherokee. The stolen vehicle was a Honda.

A similar kind of racial typing is evident up the coast in supposedly liberal Santa Monica. In the fall of 1996, two police cars tailed Darryl Hicks and George Washington, two black men, as they pulled into the parking garage of their hotel. The police cruisers turned on their lights and at gun-point ordered the men out of their cars. The men were handcuffed and placed in separate police cars. Washington and Hicks' car was searched. The police claimed the men were being detained because they fit the description of suspects wanted in a string of nineteen armed robberies. The officers also said one of the men appeared to be "nervous". Washington and Hicks later sued the police officers for false arrest and civil rights violations. In ruling for the two men, the court determined that the armed robberies had not occurred in Santa Monica and that neither of the men fit the descriptions of the robbers.


Two anecdotal cases from the 1990s do not a trend make. This study from the ACLU released last month does prove a pattern of racial profiling in Los Angles.

http://www.aclu.org/racialjustice/racialprofiling/38567prs20090114.html

The report showed that black and Hispanic residents are stopped, frisked, searched and arrested by LAPD officers far more frequently than white residents. These racial disparities aren't explained by differing crime rates in predominantly black or Latino neighborhoods, or the likelihood that a search of a person of color will yield evidence of a crime, the report concluded.


The LAPD’s response? Deny the evidence. Hide the bodies. Change the subject.


The federal government exists to keep a watchful eye on these kind of abuses, right? Tell that to Ashcroft/ Gonzales/Mukasey. While these Mafia style enforcers were throwing the book at any high profile African-American celebrity with skin pigment darker than pecan who spit on the sidewalk ( see Wesley Snipes, Barry Bonds among others for examples of their selective prosecutions), they studiously ignored civil rights crimes committed against minorities by local officials. This included such activities as voter suppression and arrest quotas. This is why small towns in East Texas came up with their money making scam. When Justice is not colorblind it is not just.

These artificially generated arrest numbers serve a purpose, since they lead to higher conviction numbers, which in turn are used to generate a public perception that Blacks are somehow more guilty than whites, which in turn is used to justify racial profiling. And so the scam perpetuates itself. The Criminal Industrial Complex generates its own work. Judges are bribed to send juveniles guilty of nothing more than free speech to prison. Kids (disproportionately minority) incarcerated in camps for youthful offenders are victims of pedophiles who are protected by the Republican Governor in Texas and his Republican Attorney General. And the nation’s employers are assured a steady supply of ex-con low skilled, low wage workers. The system ends up being a lot like slavery, except instead of restraining each “slave” with shackles, the young men and women are penned up inside urban areas and told If you try to leave, we will nab you and put you to work on a prison farm, so you had better accept whatever work your city has to offer. Hmmm. Sounds a lot like old fashioned Medieval serfdom, to me.

Oh, and it benefits the Republican Party, since attempts to disenfranchise Black voters, almost all of whom vote for the Democrats, are tolerated by the press as somehow right since Blacks are, by their very skin pigmentation wrong . Doubt me? Pay attention to how much attention the mainstream media will lavish on any single white voter whose vote is not counted as opposed to any group of 100 to 1000 African-American voters (even soldiers on active duty in Iraq!) who are disenfranchised. Note how outraged they were over Janet Jackson’s breast---as if an African-American woman’s mammary gland had the power to corrupt men’s minds in a way that a white woman’s never could.

The presence of racial profiling in LaLa Land carries a double whammy, since Hollywood produces the myths that power America. If that city continues to write fictions in which the man with the face darker than a medium brown is a likely criminal, then that is what Main Street, USA is going to see when a stranger drives into town.

http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/1580.html

III. Post Modernist Notes from Post-Racist America

Speaking of convenient fictions, get a load of this.

http://townhall.com/columnists/DineshDSouza/2009/01/28/obama_and_post-racist_america

I could have held up any one of a number of right wing idiots for ridicule for their claims that the election of a Harvard Law School graduate, best selling author, charismatic, big state U.S. Senator biracial Democrat to be president after a Republican had just blown the job in a spectacular fashion proves that racism is dead. I guess it was Dinesh O’Souza’s lucky day. A moment of irreverent laughter at Mr. O’Souza’s expense, please.

It won’t be so funny the next time some one gets beaten up, maybe even killed in some small Southern town, and a chorus of O’Souza’s chime in It can’t be racially motivated. There is no more racism in America! That boy must have done something. . And if you are denied job after job, because employers do not like the color of your skin, being told that you traded affirmative action for the warm fuzzy feeling that comes from having a brother in the White House is just going to make the despair and hopelessness worse.

That is the subtext of all Post-Racist writing. The Racial rapture has come. If you did not wake up already and find yourself among the elect, then you must not be good enough.

Note that Blacks and Hispanics continue to suffer from poverty at much higher rates than whites in the United States.

http://www.irp.wisc.edu/faqs/faq3.htm#groups

Poverty in America kills. It kills by assassinating the spirit. It has a mean little voice that whispers In a land of plenty, you don’t amount to much, do you? Your kids are poor. Your wife has to work. There is no road out for you, except booze and pills that help you forget for a few hours . The Bush recession was engineered to kill the spirit of the American working class, and especially the American working class of color that has been struggling to emerge from its cocoon ever since the New Deal.

People like O’Souza appear to be buffoons, but they are absolutely necessary---as are the mainstream media producers who choose to show only Black “perps” and white “victims” and the police who racially profile. All play their part in crafting the myth of the imperfect race. From Mythologies by Roland Barthe

We reach here the very principle of myth: it transforms history into nature. We now understand why, in the eyes of the myth consumer, the intention, the adhomination of the concept can remain manifest without however appearing to have an interest in the matter: what causes mythical speech to be uttered is perfectly explicit, but it is immediately frozen into something natural; it is not read as a motive, but as a reason.


http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/barthes04.htm

In other words, if you tear apart the myths which the nation’s law enforcement and its Hollywood producers and its O’Souza’s have given us using the formula supplied by M. Barthe, you realize that this shocking equation has been driving racial relations in America for many decades.

Blacks have to be kept down by law, because they have always been kept down by law. And we wouldn’t want the law to be wrong now, would we?




IV. Bittersweet

I am very, very happy that Barack Obama is our president.

I am very sad that anger may eliminated from our national dialogue. Some people have a right to be angry. They have put up with a lot of crap. They deserve to have someone acknowledge their anger. If we start telling people Only bad folks get angry that is just another way of saying Bad things only happen to bad people .
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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:55 PM
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1. I recommend and bookmarked this post
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:59 PM
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2. Wow, this is excellent.
I was living in Santa Monica when that incident you mention happened and I sort of remember it too. Now I live in N. Cal and I can tell you it's no different at all. There's hardly any blacks at all in the cow town I live in and I've seen people in their pick up trucks drive around with the Stars and Bars. Something I NEVER saw in the NC town I grew up in.
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 08:42 PM
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60. Several California counties ... very scary to drive thru
My wife and I had to go up to Susanville (Lassen County) just a week or so before the Nov. 4th election. We are a same-sex married couple who live in a relatively liberal county (Santa Clara) and were unprepared for the onslaught of outward hostility which greeted us as we drove through the rural areas of Northern California. There were those putrid yellow and blue "YES on 8" signs EVERYWHERE -- some were even "customized" with personal comments which I won't repeat here. Of course we had our collection of equality and "no on 8" bumper stickers on the truck, and so we felt like we were a literal moving target as we drove along.

We kept our doors locked and windows rolled up and dared not stop anywhere, not even to pee, during the several hours we were on the road -- not until we reached Alameda County.

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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:44 AM
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61. Wow, you would think you were driving through Alabama in 1965 or so.
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:12 PM
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62. Prop 8 brought out the worst in people - exposed just how deep and pervasive...
...the hatred is for gays among many. Prop 8 seemed to sanction and validate people's homophobia, giving them a sense of free license to overtly display their bigotry, be it by signs, verbiage, or in some cases, physical violence.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:09 PM
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3. I'm glad Barack Obama is President and Eric Holder is Attorney General.
Maybe now, the DOJ will actually bring the hammer down on racist piece-of-shit cops.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:12 PM
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4. There is unfinished work until equality is reached. It is
very sad to hear people being treated with discrimination, and it does give anyone with critical thinking skills the inclination to be mad. I have to say that on election night it was a wonderful feeling to know that this is a glimpse of better things to come. It is coming-freedom and equality for all.
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webDude Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:51 PM
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5. Driving through Tenaha, in 1970, and seeing "white" and "colored"...
...restroom signs on the volunteer fire department. That was in 1970! I am white and that is etched in my memory, I was 13 at the time. They are not all bad people there, I am sure, but the bad ones linger on, due to money, hate or both.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:30 AM
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19. Tenaja is just another Texas town..
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 09:33 AM by Baby Snooks
Tenaja is just another racist Texas town which is what most towns in Texas are. The reality is probably half the Democrats in Texas are also racist. Although of course they would never admit it.

What's interesting is that no one in Texas has spoken out about Tenaja.

We have a governor who is racist, an Attorney General who is racist and a legislature that is racist. Because Texas is racist. And you know what? That is the second motto of the Texas Republican Party. They are not only corrupt and proud of it, they are racist and proud of it.

The sad thing is Texas is not alone in its racism. It is just more proud of it.

The chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court is an African-American Republican. But he knows that inclusion in the Republican Party means knowing your place. And staying in your place. So he has said nothing.

But honestly there are just as many African-American Democrats on our benches and in our legislature who know their place as well and stay there. And so even they have said nothing.

Welcome to Texas.
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:03 PM
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6. I wish it were not like this. I can only hope change is coming and in a big, meaningful way!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:24 PM
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7. Another op-ed quality post
Seriously--let's get some mileage out of our best.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:01 AM
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15. While I am not recommending McCamy shouldn't try, but you know as well as I do,
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 09:10 AM by tom_paine
that such an article as this, thinking outside the ever narrowing box of the Bushiganda-driven M$M is NOT PERMITTED.

First, off Conventional Wisdom in this nation, which I have long believed is as off the rails and disconnected from reality as 1930s Germany, in our own way, and the Bushiganda-M$M, says DEFINITIVELY that Obama's election means, in fact, that racism in America is DEAD!

Dissenting viewpoints? Silenced as effectively as if we were in the Soviet Union, at best, occasionally mentioned, (but NEVER with any article as thoughtful, insightful and impactful as McCamy's), but never allowed to be anywhere it can seep into the public consciousness and forget about the M$M having a national debate on what this story means to the nation.

These days, of course, you might have noticed that for at least a decade, the only Long National Debates we ever have are the ones the Bushigandsists WANT us to have

Why is Al Gore such a reprehensible serial liar?

Was Al Gore a sore loser, and should he quit instead of bothering people?

Why do Democrats hate America?

How wrong were the Liberals about the War in Iraq? (post-Hitler's Landing on the Aircraft Carrier)

Now, of course, there no need, no need at all, silly, to have a debate in the country about why the Liberals were, in fact, the only ones correct about most everything for the last 8 years. Let's move on to our next Bushigandist Long National Debate driven by the Mighty Wurlitzer and M$M.

Is John Kerry a traitor?

Did John Kerry falsify his war records and Purple Heart?


And so forth. There's much more, but I grow sickened writing about it. I think you get the idea.

This is no illusion, but the cold hard facts of life, even now, except for the late-night portion of MSNBC, which is the usual tokenism required for Plausible Deniability. The Bushies held it off as long as they could, but eventually the market forces of repressing the voice of tens of millions grew too great, and some Palusible Deniability was required, in a strange eerie repeat of what often occurs when the obviousness of abuses of African-Americans are begrudgingly acknowledged.

The Bushies respond with a token Black/Liberal/Gay/whatever-is-required (paging Michael Steele) and some Plausible Deniability to cloud the waters and confuse the great mass of people, who throw their arms up eventually.

But, but, my TV tells me that Obama's election means racism is dead, and so forth..we all know the drill.

Now, that's a lot of Big Picture to talk about McCamy's wonderful article, but it speaks to your issue.

McCamy, please don't let me discourage you. This IS an Op-Ed quality article and should be submitted somewhere.

Maybe the Ol' Grey Whore, the NYT, that bastion of "Liberal Journalism" :rofl: (except when Bushiganda needs to be pushed, then they join the Mighty Wurlitzer, but with the ULTIMATE Plausible Deniability built in).

But having watched this nation descend into Inverted Totalitarianism these last 30 years, and now observing that it behaves with almost the certainty of the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany, and yet with the extra Plausible Deniability required because of the Central Myths of the USA, and the era, and the reality mass media communications, which can cut both ways.

McCamy, I invite you to prove me wrong, and I'd like to be proven wrong on this one. I would love to log in to DU some morning and see this same article in the Editorials and Other Articles Forum. Hell, I'd read it again, myself, if it made a major newspaper where many people might see it.

But as we discussed, at bottom and in the end this article, if for nothing else than the fact that it would alert too many people to the situation in Fort Worth, IS FORBIDDEN.

How did the Bushies get the supposedly free institutions of America to behave with Nazi-like predictability?

That's the nuts and bolts "on the ground" of the situation. I don't do nuts and bolts "on the ground" because it is impossible to know to one who is observing from afar, as I am.

That's for future historians, if there are any left, to work out after the Greater Depression and the Greater War that is almost certain to follow, the same way historians teased out and pieced together how the Nazis did it...specifically.

Anyway, McCamy, the more I think about it, the more I wish you would try to get this wonderful article published.

As always, though it seldom happens (but still does happen sometimes), I would LOVE to be proven wrong on an assessment of the Bushification of our nation, seemingly proceeding apace in spite of Obama's election.

And, if you did try and I was proven wrong, it would be fantastic because this excellent , thoughtful, powerful, logical, well-written article that expands people's knowledge of an event which we should all know about (the massive Ft. Worth scam) would then be printed.

As I always say about such things, I hope I am wrong, but I am almost certainly right. But don't you listen to my foolery, McCamy, and let it discourage you.

Get this in a major newspaper, where it belongs.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:05 AM
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21. Hear, hear!!!
bttt!
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:32 PM
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8. This simply shouldn't be happening.
I hope the anger can be channeled in a positive way to change things.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:58 PM
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9. K&R. Thank you.
Yes, I'm thrilled that America's first not-white President was elected during my lifetime, I had seriously doubted we'd make it that far.

But as with all highly-visible milestones of progress, this should not be allowed to distract from the reality of many, many, many speedbumps and potholes still on the road.

appreciatively,
Bright
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:59 PM
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10. K&R
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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:23 AM
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11. Commendable post.
I'm bookmarking it.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:24 AM
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12. k/r
:kick:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:43 AM
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13. Thank You for this post. Bookmarked and Recommended.
I am proud and happy to see President Obama and his family in the White House. We still have so far to go as far as race relations are concerned.

I'm from Michigan, my oldest son is a student at Tuskegee University in Alabama. This past summer was the first time he drove himself back to school. He was stopped in every state, twice in Kentucky and never received a ticket. Each time he wasn't speeding. Here is a 20 yr old kid in a car packed with clothing, a tv, ironing board, and other dorm related stuff. Driving along like I've seen other students drive. Each time he was asked if he had drugs, or weapons and questioned as to where he was going. Just general harassment...or a DWB stop.

That shit pisses me off. I was a nervous wreck by the time he got to school. He took it in stride, only saying "Mom don't worry, it happens all the time, I just don't tell you about it."

Now I'm in Nebraska, my youngest is one of 3 blacks in the school and the only one on the bb and football team. Last nights game was the third time this year that he's been called the N word by a kid on the opposite team. It really makes me sad. My husband, ex-athlete tells him not to react and to blow it off. We talked to the coach's on the opposite team each time and of course they state it will be addressed. I guess as a female, I just never caught as much grief as my boys get. We still live in a divided country. All we can do is pray things get better and not forget the past.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 08:28 AM
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14. K & R for the sad truth.
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:02 AM
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16. K&R
:kick:

Faulkner was right--the past isn't even past.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:12 AM
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17. K and R
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:18 AM
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18. Curious: Why did you title your post "...in small Southern towns"
and then proceed to give information that included small towns throughout the entire United States (last I checked New Jersey and California aren't Southern states)?

In much the same way white police in small towns seem to be bigoted against black people, far too many people on DU, and in general, are bigoted against the South and your post title doesn't help.

There are many enlightened people in the South. Our major voting problem is that we enlightened folks are at about 44 percent - not enough to tip the scales. We have no to little left-wing media and the churches rule the airwaves.

If more liberals would move to our states - we have moderate winters and lots of outdoor life - then we easily could tip those scales.

Not to take away from your post - but Southern bigotry is a pet peeve of mine - being an enlightened, liberal Tennessean.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:21 AM
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22. In big cities they racial profile. In small Southern towns, they openly commit highwaty robbery.
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 11:23 AM by McCamy Taylor
And lynch. And send Black juveniles away for non-crimes. It is a pretty significant difference.

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enuegii Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:55 AM
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25. And the latest Southern lynching...
took place when, exactly?
You use the present tense here, so it's a fair question.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 07:01 PM
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56. Alabama 1981. Not so long ago. n/t
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 07:30 PM
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58. James Byrd,Jasper Texas 1998
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:27 PM
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37. Um... racial profiling IS bigotry.
I'm still not getting what you're saying. Black juveniles are sent away for non-crimes all over the country - not just in small Southern towns. It happens everywhere, unfortunately.

I think it's highly unfair to broad-brush an entire region for an action that occurs, sadly, all over the country.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:16 PM
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33. "In much the same way..."
Really? DUers are bigoted against the south in much the same way as white police in small towns are bigoted against black people?

Are DUers pulling over southerners without cause and confiscating their possessions?

I don't deny that people have unfairly negative attitudes about the south, but I do think the label of bigotry is being tossed around a little too freely these days.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:25 PM
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36. Yes - in much the same way
Bigotry is bigotry no matter how you act upon it. One doesn't have to commit an act of violence to have bigoted thoughts.

And painting an entire region as "racist" or whatever "ist" is bigotry.

A bigot is a person who, without thought, is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from his or her own, and bigotry is the corresponding attitude or mindset.

Since many here are intolerant of the Southern lifestyle (unfairly, since the vast majority of us are no more nor no less bigoted than any other American), then, yes, I qualify them as bigots.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:53 AM
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20. When I was in student teaching, the students told me there was no racism anymore.
And yet they knew that one of their classmates was a KKK member. That's how schizo we are about race. Same with gender--when I taught in a Catholic girls' school, I was told that there wasn't gender bias or discrimination anymore, that feminism wasn't needed, and they knew they'd never be sexually harrassed at work. *sigh*
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byeya Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:32 AM
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24. Bob Herbert - NY Times
Don't forget Bob Herbert's investigations and reporting of a Texas county narc who was responsible for a couple of dozen bogus convictions in rural Texas. Lies, planted "evidence", and anything else, was a feature of this episode. What made the affair even more tragic, was that many African Americans pled guilty and when it was finally cleaned up - thanks again, Mr Herbert - there was little to do because of the guilty pleas.
Anyway, a whole community was disrupted to the point of breaking because judges and juries believed the transparent BS.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 04:23 PM
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45. And I think we need to look into that--why did they believe it?
I grew up in rural Whiteville. Seriously, we had three African Americans at my decent-sized high school. Very white town. So, when I started teaching in the Cleveland area, I found myself confronting my own racism constantly at first. Large groups of African American boys were just boys, not a gang, crap like that. Then, after teaching there awhile, I found myself thinking the opposite--large groups of African American boys hanging out were just hanging out, but what was that group of white boys up to? I'm sure I offended my students more than I ever realized, especially at first, but I'll never forget the day one of my classes and I had an interesting discussion about the meaning of the word "ghetto." I made them explain it, feigning ignorance about what it really meant, and for every explanation, I said, "Oh, you mean redneck!" or "That's white trash, not ghetto." Finally, they caught on, and we had a great discussion of why we use race labels for socioeconomic-based behaviors.
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antimatter98 Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:30 AM
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23. Excellent. Fyi, if you want to print this to a PDF file on a PC...
(download the free software called 'doPDF' (Google it). On recent Mac's,
printing to PDF is part of the OS.)

When I arrived in The South in the late 80's, I moved to one of those high growth
areas and noticed plenty of racism, but it had gone a little underground---you had to
pay attention to what people in power said, how local government allocated development
funding (like schools, new or re-done roads, water systems...) to get it. There was
a small town that hosted a major sports event and interestingly, roads and other public
commons near the event's location were redone, but on the other side of the tracks,
where the water system was in disrepair, and houses not connected to town sewer...just as
in the 60's... nothing happened, just as nothing happened in the 60's. The town said there
were no funds, but on the rich side of town, there were funds. etc.

And when Obama was elected, some enterprising North Carolina State University scholars
painted some racial remarks on a wall on campus---the 'free expression tunnel' it is called, and briefly
put NC State University into the national spotlight.

It still goes on. I'd say in 100 more years we'll see a further diminishing of racism, but
as long as our kids are taught to hate others, it will never stop, and hiding behind
"Jesus" only will make it worse. Maybe if they become the
minority...





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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:57 AM
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26. excellent work
Some friends and I have had a few DWB episodes here in Virginia Beach over the years...VBPD has a very heavy-handed reputation.
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:38 PM
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31. Larry Sinclair?????? What's the rest
of your self-censored user name?

I'm thinking of the old ad slogan, myself -- LSMFT. It stood for, "Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco."

But in this case I think it's worth pointing out that mentioning "Larry Sinclair Means FreeRepublic Troll."
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:05 PM
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28. great post, I read it all
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 12:27 PM by mimitabby
You forgot to mention the black man who got so tired of being stopped in his car by police that he paid for a billboard ad asking them to leave him alone.

We have a long, long way to go, you're right about that. What Pres Obama did the second it was clear that he was elected for all people, particularly people of color, was prove that it COULD be done, that a black child COULD dare to hope. I think that glimmer of hope is important and I've seen it in a lot of faces since.

What it didn't do is (as you state so eloquently) fix our racial problems in this country. It's a long ugly road ahead of us, but we as a nation took a very significant, but small, step towards salving the wounds started so many years ago with slavery.
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:30 PM
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29. Oops, double post, so call it K & R & another K n/t
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 12:31 PM by mojowork_n
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:30 PM
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30. Thank you. One of your very best -- an enthusiastic, appreciative K & R
The same scared, frightened bullies who complained the loudest about "Voter Fraud" and the "Criminals" at ACORN -- and the unequal, anti-conservative bias of the "Lib'rul Media" -- are only too happy to jump for a ride on that happy post-racial haywagon.

Which has been a creation of the very same "Lib'rul Media."
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:59 PM
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32. As tom paine suggested, PLEASE try to get this circulated/Some comments of my own
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 01:16 PM by BlancheSplanchnik
K, R, and bookmarked...


The more people who see this the better. Particularly, people in gov., law/law enforcement, media........

If I could pull together an essay as strong as this for women and "our" continuing issues as targets of trivialization, hypersexualization, ageism, violent victimization, disenfranchisement, etc., I would send it to as many people as I could. Gee, wouldn't it be wonderful if civil rights activists and women's rights activists could pool their energies? Or if black people and female people who have achieved "a seat at the table" worked together to help dissolve the myths we labor under?

My mind is open, always has been since I was a kid (JFK Generation too), and your essay opened my eyes even further to situations that are detestable. Thank you for that--even though the numerous cases made my blood boil.

Your examination and analyses are superb and very thought provoking. Thought provoking in that way that says, "Holy cow, that's absolutely right! How could I not see that?" Indeed, how could anyone miss the social engine that enforces and feeds on these incidents?

Individuals among minorities and women have made progress, (and are used by the Plausible Deniability propagandists), and Obama's achievement of the Presidency fills me with great great hope--because of ALL of who he is, not just because of his race. I want to scream when anyone tries to reduce his significance to a racial milestone only. But, to quote TygrBright's comment here, "...as with all highly-visible milestones of progress, this should not be allowed to distract from the reality of many, many, many speedbumps and potholes still on the road".

A Word (or three) About Sexism, Which is Also Alive And Well

Before closing, I must address and deconstruct the Janet Jackson incident, because you brought it up--but cast it solely as an issue of race.

I feel you overlooked the essential hostility against Jackson because she is a woman. (LWF? Living While Female? LTHWF? Leaving The House While Female?) Please bear with my lengthy analysis.

As you said, "Note how outraged they were over Janet Jackson’s breast---as if an African-American woman’s mammary gland had the power to corrupt men’s minds in a way that a white woman’s never could".

However, there is much more than race involved in that embarrassing "American Moment".

I feel it is very important to add some examination of the gender implications of that
event which so captured the media and therefore, the public. All the "outrage", conjoined with salacious fascination, was focused on an imposed notion of Jackson's slutty behavior, and the punishment she richly deserved for that. The repeated examination we, the public, were subjected to was our entitlement proceeding from her licentiousness.

The elephant in the room that evades attention is Justin Timberlake's role in the duet as the molester. He acted out the part of a sexual attacker, forcing her shirt down.

There was no censure of this egregious sexism and the role modeling of violence against women. It seemed that no one took notice of this blatant offense. In fact, there was no awareness, no discussion whatsoever, anywhere I looked, of Timberlake's role and its implications.

Timberlake's enactment of rape was not only ignored, it was condoned. I have no doubt that his whiteness, and her blackness magnified the acceptance; no make that, the encouragement to see women as sexual product and nothing more.

To my mind, that incident represents a basic gender divide first. As is typical in the gender dynamic, men are persons, intrinsically worthy of interest, and male aggressors suffer few consequences for their actions, while females are objects, valuable only as far as they are titillating, respected only as far as they are unsullied window dressing. Once used, they may be smeared and righteously denounced. (presented as current evidence--late night talk show culture. Guest lists follow a generalized, predictable pattern: interesting men and vapid female eye-candy.)

He went on to further his celebrity career, and crafted a glamorous tough-guy image from it, while she will never be separated from the scandal of her immorality.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:19 PM
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34. There is also DRIVING WHILE HOMELESS, but it isn't recognized, or given
the same attention.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:36 PM
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40. make a thread about it
someone attacked my thread that go so much attention a few months back, because their issue didn't get the attention mine got when I brought it up, and they came into my comment and complained. Best to you always...
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:21 PM
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35. A small point:
Yes, I know that we are supposed to be over a lot of things. But I am part of Generation JFK, the term I use to describe those of us born between 1956 and 1964. Remember how the Jesuits claim that if you give them a child until age seven, they control his mind forever? I believe that you can lump together any American child (that was not raised Amish or a member of the KKK or a staunch Republican) who was aged 5 (since we grow up so quickly nowadays) at any time during the JFK presidency, assassination or the LBJ presidency that followed in which the martyrdom of JFK was used to win passage of landmark legislation like the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare etc. People from this group seem to me to be especially idealistic but also especially skeptical. They have expectations of the federal government that you do not often see in other groups---except for those who were aged five during the FDR administration. Note that both Obamas fall into this category.

So do Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:52 PM
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38. gulp
not to change the subject, but am I the only american that has never actually seen the superbowl Janet Jackson thing?
(so I didn't know what her race was!)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:54 PM
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39. Half a century ago, California cops would beat the stuffing out of a motorcyclist for the hell of it
According to Hunter Thompson's "Hells Angels". There's a core of police brutality in the the culture of the California police. Just sayin'
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:48 PM
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41. Thank you for this wonderful piece, McT.
Bless you.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:53 PM
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42. K & R -- for breaking my heart and for good research
someday....

civil liberties, REAL freedom for ALL
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:57 PM
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43. Great post .
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 02:59 PM by Hoyt
Born in 1949, deep in the south. I have often maintained to right wingers -- who blamed the victims in the aftermath of Katrina -- that one reason many did not strike out into the country side is exactly what you posted. Assuming those in Katrina's path had a car and money, where were they going to go? If they camped out or pulled over in some little town, they might have been harassed by law enforcement or a bunch drunk bigots.

Of course, your post is much broader than that.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 03:39 PM
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44. K&R. Just when I think that elements of US law-enforcement agencies had
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 03:41 PM by Joe Chi Minh
plumbed the depths of satanic wickedess, an abyss appears within the existing abyss, like a Russian doll.

The stories have now become more horrifying than the Nazis could have dreamt up - except perhaps the concentration camp guards. The Gestapo in the street hated the Jews as they persecuted, robbed and killed them. But these evil cretins, like those SS guards, try to cover their shame with laughter and high spirits - as they celebrate the unraisable curse they are under.

As Solzhenizyn observed, once people descend below a certain lower limit of wickedness, effectively, there is no return. Judas found that out too late. So will those white-collar officials who have slyly condoned its continuance. Theirs is the greater guilt, difficult as it is to imagine greater guilt than that of the cretinous rednecks of the highway patrol. Make hay while the sun shines, because you face an eternity of the torment of the damned.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 05:05 PM
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46. i'm from the same generation...and i am still angry too
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 05:08 PM by noiretextatique
for the second week in a row, my CFO admonished us (accounting and facilities departments) to "use correct grammar." i have never been more insulted in my life at work, and i've dealt with a lot of shit. he also created an attendance policy that applies only to our two departments, even though there are two other service departments in the organization. what wrong with all of this? the majority of the people in accounting and facilities are black, whereas the people in the other service departments are white.

i will eventually file a complaint with HR regarding the attendance policy, which is clearly being applied in a discriminatory manner. as for the "correct grammar" comment, there are in fact two grammar offenders, so i think he should address them individually. i will include that in my complaint...performance/skills issues should be addressed in individual evaluations.

hell yes...it's still fucking infuriating to live as a black woman in america.

btw, i work at a non-profit in oakland, ca.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:11 PM
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47. I have that same life long obsession with politics.
I was in sixth grade. I remember praying to god, and asking why? (I'd gladly take his (JFK)'s place). (was raised Catholic, am an atheist) I wonder how many people alive then have the same obsession?
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HipHopCaucus Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:20 PM
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48. Thankyou
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:24 PM
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50. Anything that combines politics with hip hop gets an A f*cking +++ from me
Very nicely done. :)
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:21 PM
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49. ??
I could have held up any one of a number of right wing idiots for ridicule for their claims that the election of a Harvard Law School graduate, best selling author, charismatic, big state U.S. Senator biracial Democrat to be president after a Republican had just blown the job in a spectacular fashion proves that racism is dead.

I've read this sentence four times and still can't make out what you're trying to say. Can you explain please?? Sorry for being a little dense.

And if what you're saying is that the number of right-wing idiots who are declaring Obama's presidency dead after a grand 3 weeks in office is proof that racism is not dead, I not only completely agree but would also like to point you to the number of Democrats doing the same thing. Which is why you will not find a black person on this earth who is not fully aware that racism happily resides in both parties. Democrats seem more concerned with social issues and social justice, and because most black folk identify with that, I think this is why most black folk identify with the Dem party.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:55 PM
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55. Talking about the election of Obama
As proof in it self that racism is dead. And those stating such are plenty and ripe for ridicule.
Thats it.

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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 07:18 PM
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57. Ahh, got it
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:32 PM
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51. Another K&R for one of the few voices for sanity.
We are always so anxious to declare that all is well and we can go back to sleep now.

We are a fundamentally sick culture, this has to be recognized and acknowledged by the majority before we can get heal. Obama is a step, but only one small step, and even he is hesitant to point out the illness.
:kick: & R

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LT TX Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:40 PM
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52. Teneha, Texas
I live maybe an hour away from Teneha. Believe me, there is quite a "bubba syndrome" that is prevelant in this area. I hate, hate, HATE the fact that East Texas can't get away from racism. At first I thought it was the older generation, but I am seeing people my age with the same prejudices (late 20's - early 30's).

My husband just said that he sees cars pulled over all the time in Tenaha (he is a truck driver).
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:43 PM
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53. A unique perspective...
I work as a college access counselor at an inner-city, mostly black school. We are currently doing a seminar on race with a lot of the students there (Seniors and Juniors in high school). I'm really surprised by how idealistic they are about race and racism. A lot of them (not all) have a "colorblind" outlook. They have all experienced racism to some extent or another, but not a ton, and the times it has happened, they chalk it up to that individual's ignorance rather than condemning a whole other race or despairing about being black in America. In fact, they seem to look at it in a "everybody's got their ignorant racists" sort of way, telling about how many of the black people they know so racist things as well, or have certain racist attitudes.

Also, many things that used to be considered racist, they don't necessarily find racist anymore. For example, when they're followed in stores, they say that it's because so many black people do steal in that neighborhood, so it doesn't surprise them. It's not good, it's definitely stereotyping, but they don't think there are racist reasons behind it.

I have a feeling none of them have ever experienced the "down South" sort of racial dynamics. But still, they think that one day we won't have to worry about race anymore, it will cease to exist when it is no longer socially significant. Some are real idealistic, refusing to identify themselves primarily as black first and anything else second. They realize that society hasn't moved past it yet, but as individuals, they have moved beyond it.

There are a couple who are still very bitter, either from experience or from what their parents have told them. But the rest of the class usually treats them as extremists, in a way. What I take away from all this is that things definitely are improving with time, and each generation is becoming more race-neutral, or race-less really. A lot of the most controversial race discussions revolve around the "light skin, dark skin" issue in the black community.
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Azooz Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 06:48 PM
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54. K & R
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 08:10 PM
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59. I acknowledge your anger. I am also angry. And you are a first for me.
I was born just a few months before JFK was shot. In the 3rd grade, my best friend, in a small NC town, was Doretta Heggie. My parents were divorced, hers were not. My parents had married at 15 and 16 and never finished high school, hers had college degrees. Doretta had beautiful teeth. Mine were neglected because we were too poor to afford dental care. Doretta's hair was done every morning and mine was stringy. At times we had our power turned off because my single mother couldn't pay the bills. Somehow I doubt Doretta ever had that problem because her father was a professional who prospered. Doretta's mother sewed many of her clothes and made me a painting smock to match Doretta's. The buttons were little strawberries. I loved it. We were twins! I asked my mom if Doretta could come spend the night with me....she said no. It was a defining moment. The excuse was that people would talk about us. Us? For all I knew at the time, Doretta had it all over me if you wanted to quantify things that way. I was in the 3rd grade! What makes sense to a third grader? I looked around and just didn't see it! All those things that were supposed to be "GOOD" things a person should be able to claim were TRUE for Doretta, but not for me. I'm sure I don't have to tell you I am white and Doretta was black.

For the next 15 years, I fought my family. Certain they were freaks and that they could turn on me eventually if I didn't conform. And I didn't. And they did. Big surprise.

My town became fairly famous for it's racism and I got the hell out of there as soon as I graduated high school. My mother divorced me that day. She let me know she was an irrational, spineless shell of a human being. My heart has hurt ever since. I feel too sorry for them to rage at them now...but they do still deserve it (and they aren't the worst by any stretch).

Through the years, I have wanted to discuss this with the black friends I've had and I wanted to hear their stories but the subject was always avoided. You are the first person I've ever heard REALLY tell their story. At least one I feel I can relate to. I've read books that tell a story but the place and time are so different, somehow I didn't feel I was listening to something I could see and feel...not as viscerally as this.

You are a good writer. And I'm so glad you shared this with us. It needs to be said more. It is a very sane, very lucid, not to mention very well "supported" statement of the truth.

I'm with you. And I'm so very very sorry anyone ever has to know what you know.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:39 PM
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63. one more kick!
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