Kate Gosselin comments on Nadya Suleman.

[FedUpWithIt All]

Q: Do you think Nadya did the right thing in having these octuplets, after already having six children?

Kate: I believe that every life that is created has a purpose. However, personally, I would never have set out to even have a seventh child - especially if I was a single parent!

Q: Nadya is not married, and there's no father that we know of. Is this a problem?

Kate: Absolutely. The workload that Jon and I share is often even too much for us! It is unimaginable the amount of work she will have to bear as a single mother raising eight preemies as well as six other children.





Kate need not worry. TLC can always shift the schedule around to include one more voyeristic invasion into the highly unnatural lives of toddlers for profit. :crazy:

Oops forgot the link...http://www.nypost.com/seven/02032009/tv/8_is_enough_153263.htm

[Kittycat]

1. So when do we hear from the Duggers?

This is such a sad story. I sincerely hope that the state intervenes, and ensures that those children get the proper care they need and deserve.

[JI7]

3. i agree with those who say the fertility doctor should pay for it

and be treated like a dead beat dad and ordered to pay.

[FedUpWithIt All]

9. That is a clever idea.

:hi:

[FedUpWithIt All]

8. I only think intervention is appropriate if the kids ARE neglected or physically abused.

I don't want to see these kids separated and fostered out. It can be a horrific situation.

If i had my wishes, she would quietly receive some resources to help with the raising of the kids. No TV spots. No constant media attention. No paid vacations or endorsements. She would receive nothing that makes this option attractive to an adult. Just some diapers and some baby food...etc., for the kids. There are plenty of multiples families that do not SEEK the spotlight. Something tells me that we will not stop hearing from Ms. Suleman anytime soon.

Having tons of babies cannot be considered a CAREER option for the twisted. We cannot continue to let it be an attractive option for fortune or fame.

[theHandpuppet]

18. Well, she's already set up a website for donations

And she accepts VISA, American Express. MasterCard, Paypal, etc. She's already peddling her kids. You should see ths site:
http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/ I guess we should have known this was coming.

I hope the IRS is going to take a good luck at where that money will be going.

[Control-Z]

36. I totally agree with you.

These children need their natural mother, if she is at all capable of mothering them. Of course she will need help. Not fame and fortune. Just help.

[JI7]

2. i can't stand either of them

in fact i like the Duggars more than them. the Duggars are at least entertaining and don't really come off as exploiting the kids the way Jon and Kate do.

i never thought i would be saying positive things about the Duggars.

[FedUpWithIt All]

10. I agree about the Duggars. They seem to be exploiting their family more than the kids.

The other thing about them is that the show seems secondary to the kids. It feels quite the opposite with Kate and Jon's family no matter how often Kate claims otherwise.

The Duggars are a strange crew and they have made some uncommon choices and sadly that attracts a lot of frustration from people.

[LynneSin]

26. At least the Duggars did it on their kids naturally

[riderinthestorm]

4. So Kate the Christian will step right up and provide assistance!!!

Since every life is precious and has been created for a "purpose", here's her chance to put $$ into action.

I'm just SURE she's going to step up and lead the fight for "life" for Nadya Suleman..... She and her husband have made MILLIONS off their own litter saga. Let's see them help someone who isn't photogenic and upper middle class....

:sarcasm:



(grrrr. typical christian right-to-lifers. Every embryo is sacred until it's born. Then it's damn the 'welfare" mothers and offer nothing concrete to assist them with raising that child/ren).

[FedUpWithIt All]

11. It would seem that Kate does not appreciate sharing profits.

But there are reports that she alienated the kids from their aunt and uncle when the show wanted to pay them to continue playing an active role in the kids lives. She apparently did not like the idea that Aunt Jodi would be getting paid after she had been Kate's free babysitter for years.

Again mistaking real life for entertainment, it was easier to Kate just to demand that the beloved aunt was CUT from the cast and the kids lives. Cold.

Jon and Kate do claim on their website that they share a portion of the donations with their preferred charity. I would think after making several million $ over less than five years off your children and the extreme charity of others, it might be time to give a little back. It is the Christ like thing to do.

Speaking of Christ-like is the following quote from their website...

In May 2003, we had the opportunity to adopt a newborn in kind of a rare circumstance. Things were moving really fast and we prayed about it and felt that this was not meant to be. Jon and I came to a joint decision that we were not ready to take on such a responsibility at the time. We felt God leading us a different way.

They couldn't be bothered with the responsibility of giving a better life to an unwanted infant. So they decided to have six more of their own. I bet she thinks that her big house and spa vacations (thanks and ONLY thanks to the birth of those six babies) are all part of God's big plan for her. Because you know God cares more about Kate's nails than he does about tiny mixed race unwanted infants.

:banghead:

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. And what happened to her friend Beth?

She hasn't been on at all this season.

[Diane R]

5. Kate Gosselin has exploited her vulnerable children to buy herself a 1.3 million dollar mansion.

What she has done to those children, their privacy, and their dignity is despicable. Neither she or Jon are parents who should be role models. The kids are clearly miserable, and their lazy parents have made a career of televising their children's most private moments rather than working for a living. They have lived off donations of free clothes, appliances, furniture, and food for years. They pay for nothing.

Kate Gosselin is no moral role model.

[FedUpWithIt All]

12. I have heard that the laws about child actors do not apply here.

The limits on camera time and filming restrictions are not required with these kids because this is reality tv and not film work.

I was just talking to a friend the other day who is a fan of the couple and the show...these kids have no privacy to emote, throw fits, learn a lesson, struggle with issues... EVERYTHING they do is fodder for profit. It is so incredibly sad.

A quick Google search about the show and it becomes clear that most people dislike the twin sister Maddy. She IS A CHILD. One day she will learn how to use Google. She will see all the things people have said about her, very little of it is good. What fools her parents are to not even NOTICE this child's cries for help.


As a mother i can say that losing even ONE of my children is not worth anything. They ignore the statistics and plunge along anyhow. Selfish. They will be lucky if only one comes out of all this damaged.

[Avalux]

19. I often wonder the psychological impact when the cameras suddenly go away.

Eventually, the kids will grow up and they won't have cameras in their faces at every turn. This is all they know - how will they cope?

I happened upon an episode where Kate plays old videos of the show for the kids during down time. She seemed to think it was fine; I thought it a bit disturbing.

[LynneSin]

28. The Gosselin come from the same area as my stepfather's family

and from what I've heard the woman isn't very 'christian-like' when the TV cameras are off.

[xloadiex]

6. The Gosselin's are experts

in having multiples for profit. Kate is a perfect role model for Nadya. Octomomma now has a website all set up asking for hand outs just like the Gosselins did with their "prayer list" when the tups were born. If Nadya follows the Gosselins closely, she too can learn how to buy a 1.3 million dollar home through child exploitation. Someone needs to stop both of these women from ruining these children's lives.

[FedUpWithIt All]

13. It is sad. These kids do deserve better.

:hi:

[defendandprotect]

7. I've been watching Jon & Kate . . .and the evolution . . .

they are dangerously close now to overworking the entire family and total

exploitation of parents and kids ---

A second wedding ceremony? Kate explains what she previously thought of something

like that -- yet, obviously they needed bigger housing and so what TLC wants TLC

will get, it seems.

Except for the couples' religious views which are beginning to be displayed more

often now with a recent visit to a CREATION play, I have usually thought J&K handling

with common sense -- they're wonderful with the children -- and my best wishes to them

in dealing with all that is going on in their lives.

As they have kinda said quite often now . . . "It's work/it's a full time job for

both of them." And, quite some work for the kids at this point, as well.

I think the kids are getting to be old enough now to begin to react to all this

attention and I'm sure this worries the parents.

I also usually watch "Little People" --- and also found them very nice, interesting --

and under the same threat, IMO, of exploitation and TV money. Religion, again.

The "pumpkin throwing machine" drove me nuts! Ending with the death of the best friend!!

Ugh!!

I do not watch the Druggers . . . !!!

These are the only two TLC shows I watch --- often with sound off and text on while

I'm also at computer, etal.

[FedUpWithIt All]

14. The Gosselins charge an autograph fee of $25 for promo pictures of family

on their many speaking engagements. You may be underestimating the power of Kate to exploit her family all by herself. TLC provides all kinds of assistance. There is some talk that she has an organic chef, at least one nanny, a gardener, a housekeeper and a personal assistant. She is living the life she seeks.

Edited to add...can you imagine making a group of preschoolers sit down to sign their autographs, over and over? Why? Don't they have enough money yet?

[defendandprotect]

21. Obviously, you know things that I don't think the average viewer

knows!

Yes, while I can clearly see the dangers of the influence of TV money, I'm not that
familiar with these personalities that I would feel I could judge their motivations,
aside from the clear one -- to support the family.

IMO, I think "an organic chef, at least one nanny, a gardener, a housekeeper --
and a personal assistant" would, if known, probably make the show much less popular,
if not kill it. Is someone other than Jon cutting the grass? Is there "nanny" assistance
beyond the babysitters and friends we frequently see? How honest were the efforts at
hiring a housekeeper as many families with two working spouses have often done?
If Jon & Kate are making their family a "business" would they not need some kind of
assistance?

If any of this is true in a significant way, then I would think it could hurt the program.

As a parent of grown children who has often regretted my lack of knowledge and choices --
I've found the program interesting. But, again, as I've mentioned it is obvious the
family is "evolving" and many dangers lurk.


PS: And, again, there is a parallel situation in the "Little People" as far as I can see.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. Little People's best friend didn't die from that pumpkin throwing machine

He had a heart attack 2 years AFTER that accident.

Jon and Kate, however, are nuts and are seriously exploiting their kids. I used to like the show but can barely stand it now. Little People is much better. The Roloffs are much more real than the Gosselins.

[KatieW]

20. I was just about to post the same thing regarding the friend on the Little People show.

I use to watch Jon and Kate plus 8, but don't anymore. I got fed up at the way Kate treated Jon and how Jon just took it most of the time. She definitely has control issues. And then I heard about the whole thing with the sister-in-law.

I enjoy Little People, Big World. They don't seem to be nearly as exploitive of the whole reality based TV thing as Jon and Kate are, though I know they got some big perks having their show. I saw an ad for the new episode and Matt will be going back to Iraq to help out the family with children who are dwarfs.

[defendandprotect]

22. Right, of course . . .

however, I doubt the accident much helped his health -- !

What happened with the sister-in-law?

IMO, the basis of both programs are people who have prevailed in unusual circumstance --

obviously the LP faced situations beyond their control, while J&K made a decision which

ended in a loss of control.

There are things about both programs which make me uncomfortable -- and as I've said

before these families are "evolving."

Re Matt and Iraq -- I think it is the one humane thing I've seen happen in 8 years!

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. What sister in law?

Matt has done so many good things for little people. He heads a charitable foundation, has a program where he helps adoptive parents with little people adoptees, reaches out in many ways to the LP community. And he is a popular public speaker.

He and Amy are saints compared to Jon and Kate.

[defendandprotect]

34. Agree, Matt Roloff is a man of many talents -- and high conscience--!!!

I don't see this as a competition between the Roloffs and Gosselins --

I think they are both interesting -- yet each with different challenges.

Both of these families are obviously well suited to talk with the public

and inspire others. They both seem naturals for it.

Given those talents, there will be rewards. And in that regard, I think the

public begins judging them. While neither program is exactly "Lifestyles of

the Rich & Famous," both families are now doing very well, as far as I can see.

I think our current stressful economy will also bring more judgment down on them now.

Personally, there are things I like and dislike about both families -- but it is the

overall I'm looking at; that is, once a family makes this decision to live with

cameras, what happens to the adults and what happens to the children?

Does it mainly become TV which includes advertisements in it?

They are all attractive people -- physically, spiritually -- don't mean religion! --

with an ability to express themselves very well. I certainly feel I've learned

something about life from both families.


:)

[defendandprotect]

38. Sorry . . . that was "KateW" who I hope will tell us ..... ????

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. I like Matt and Amy

I was turned off by their Christian focus the first season but I can overlook that now and appreciate so many things about that show. I love that their house is in a constant state of disarray. (just like mine :))

And Matt is obviously a truly caring and generous person. I certainly don't see that side of Kate or Jon.

I wish I could stop watching Jon and Kate but I am in love with those precious kids. :)

[defendandprotect]

32. "And then I heard about the whole thing with the sister-in-law. "...

WHAT HAPPENED . . . . ????

[FedUpWithIt All]

39. Kate's sister in law Jodi was apparently offered a paid spot on the show by TLC.

Kate got upset about it. TLC felt that Jodi deserved some compensation for allowing the cameras into her home whenever Kate needed her for babysitting. Which in the early days of the show was considerable. Kate refused to allow Jodi to be compensated. Jodi apparently was more concerned about staying a part of the kids lives and agreed to continue babysitting without being paid by TLC.

Needless to say, although popular with the public (or because she is), aunt Jodi is no longer around. Her sister writes a blog and had explained much of Jodi's side. Jodi wasn't comfortable with the attention the blog received and asked her sister to remove much of it.

http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/

The Kate/Jodi saga is related here...

http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/2008/06/aunt-jodi-tribe-has-spoken.html

Apparently Kate has a local reputation as a salty, somewhat mean and ungrateful woman.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_Kate_Gosselin_estranged_from_her_parents

http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/mother/archives/2005/05/count_your_bles_1.html

http://www.dlee.us/2009/01/27/jon-kate-plus-8-the-new-house/

http://www.mommymusings.com/reasons-i-hate-kate-gosselin/

[defendandprotect]

40. Thank you ...

I actually scanned them all -- !!

When reality shows first came on which was a very long time ago, I remember
watching one of them for a season. The expected things happened -- negative
things -- not that you were hoping for them to happen, just that you were kinda
sure they would. And not because the people involved were all good or all bad.

Exposing yourself to celebrity and ultimately to the judgment of others distorts
reality, IMO. Perhaps we "voyeurs" think that we are seeing things more
intelligently, more clearly than those appearing in the show. What difference...?
We are not in their circumstances. And it is the pressure of those circumstances
once the commitment has been made -- and all that entails -- which creates that
difference.

The difference with these two shows -- J+K and LP -- is that there are children
involved too young to commit, to consent. LP is slightly different in that regard
since the children are a good deal older, but not adults. But let's not kid ourselves
that the parents aren't effected, that they don't change. Is it satisfactory that a
TV network/LTV have only the consent of the parents? In the case of J+K, I don't
think so. There should have been, IMO, a buffer of some kind between the network and
the parents/children to oversee the arrangements. Evidently, this show sets a precedent
in their use of children "at home."

Whatever estrangements have occurred -- and I'm sure they have -- presumably PRIOR to
the TV show, PRIOR to the birth of the sextuplets the relationships were intact.

Though I only have two children, I can attest to often having been in a mode of
"sheer survival" many times in two years -- and days seemed to be 48 hours long at times.
If you happen to be a nervous mother -- even a perfectionist -- everything will be even
more difficult.

I will comment on this that Jodi was an asset to the show and if she goes missing the
show will be less interesting. Not good business judgment on the part of TLC or J+K.

The children were in pre-kindergarden and headed for a longer school day shortly.
Certainly Mady and Cara were already less available because of their school day.
The parents seemed to me to be voicing more often the pressures -- the treadmill --
the reality of selling things with the show. They seemed to me to be uncomfortable.

For the sake of the children and the parents, I think there has to be a BUFFER between
TLC and the family to protect the children and to help the parents protect the children --
even from their own decisions.

[hamsterjill]

31. Little People, Big World

This show has at least made some positive impact by showcasing how little people meet the various challenges of living in a "big world".

I think the Roloffs have set some standards, too, that aren't necessarily in place with Jon & Kate Plus 8, most notably, there are portions of the Roloff Home where the cameras are not allowed.

In addition to that, you see the Roloff children both at their best and at their worst. The Gosselin children ARE sometimes showcased at times when all is not perfect, but that's usually only a camera setup to show how Kate can swoop down and solve any problems.

On the other hand, the Duggars' children are shown in totally unrealistic ways. None of those kids are ever sick, cranky, sleepy, etc. Everything is always perfect in Jim Bob's world!!!

[Raine]

33. TLC even did a "crossover" with the second wedding

having Kate pick out her wedding dress on the show "Say Yes to the Dress". TLC is milking the concept for everything they've got. x(

[defendandprotect]

35. It's the Martha Stewart system of advertising WITHIN the show . . .

[Blaze Diem]

17. Just Curious what California citizens are saying about Suleman's ordeal.

Since California will foot the bill for the birth, and most of the care.
Do Californians say "Oh well", or "Oh NO Way".
Anyone know?

[rvablue]

23. ABC News did "man on the street" interviews re:Suleman

and every single person stopped and asked about her said, "Oh NO way."

[Blaze Diem]

27. Like Palin, Suleman will not let her new found fame disappear from the press for long.

She have a agent yet?
This will never go away, and she will indeed promote & profit in some way.
Purely exploitation from the beginning.

[Marr]

29. It's headlines like this that make me feel out of touch.

Might as well say, "Millbanks Barnifoofoo talks about Pele Schmednystein".

I don't know who these people are and, judging from the comments, my ignorance seems harmless.

[FedUpWithIt All]

30. Sorry about that. There is a very popular reality tv show that follows a family of multiples.

They had twins with the help of fertility treatments. Another attempt left them the parents of 6 additional babies. The show is Jon and Kate + 8.

The mother, Kate was commenting on the mother currently in the news who gave birth to 8 living babies a couple of weeks ago. She already had 6 children under 7. Her name is Nadya.

[defendandprotect]

37. I don't recommend TV ... but I would recommend "Little People" . . .

which is about two parents -- Mark & Amy Roloff -- who are dwarves.

They live on a large farm in Oregon and have four children -- which includes

a set of twins -- a mixed set: one dwarf and one normal sized

Both Mark & Amy's parents are average sized -- Amy's siblings are average sized;

Mark's are mixed.

I've appreciated learning something about the lives they live and how they cope --

while, in comparison, I have no such struggles, but find much to complain about!!!



:)