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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:37 PM
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Do Republicans WANT the poor to be out on the streets or to choose between utilities and groceries?
Cutting social programs, that could NEVER have any complications, right?

Did Republicans ever stop to think what would happen if they cut social programs, but at the same time fewer and fewer people are able to work?

I think it's high time we cut the "welfare" (Undeserved salaries) of the Republican Party.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:39 PM
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1. Republicans want the poor to kill each other...
... and/or scuffle over whatever low-paying job/crumbs they make available, and then be thankful for it all, yes.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:57 PM
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20. No they want them to enlist so they don't have to scuffle over the crumbs.
So they can die for whatever noble cause they deem profitable/All American.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:40 PM
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32. And then throw the survivors in Jail so they can provide slave labor n/t
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:39 PM
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2. The Republicans don't care.
The last 8 years should have made that crystal clear to everyone.

They don't care about education, health care, the environment, or anything other than making money for their base, and having those favors returned.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:41 PM
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3. They want the poor to be slaves for food & shelter.
I will let you eat the crumbs from my table that trickle down .. . .if you will do whatever I want, whenever I want.
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Royal Sloan 09 Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:41 PM
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4. Yes, it's a true, timing out the destruction of USA!
They are working to make it happen, VERY SOON!
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:42 PM
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5. well, among other things,
they would enjoy driving wages down... They certainly hate the labor movement, and not just union either, Any worker period
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:45 PM
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6. They Don't "Want"
or not want. They could not care less. They work hard for their money (unlike everybody else) and they don't want their dollars supporting some no-good who doesn't want to work. It's as simple as that.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:45 PM
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7. Well, just as long as those poor keep voting Rushpublican
it's all a-okay with them.

Just think, the poor can't afford cable (where Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow gives the public the truth) and those digital tevee boxes are too expensive, but - radio is still FREE! And guess who rules the best stations with the best frequency on radio? That's right! Limpballs, Shame Hannity, Laura Ingorant and other misc. reichwingers.

Hunger and unemployment make for an angry electorate and add the filth and venom from radio hatemongers free to the masses, and you have a recipe for a new batch for Rushpublican voters - right?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:47 PM
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8. In a word, yes.
If you don't make enough money to survive a crisis, you don't deserve to survive that crisis. If circumstances should cause you to fall behind, so be it, it is not their problem. They view it as a necessary "thinning of the herd".
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:47 PM
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9. I concur. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:58 PM
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21. no kidding...
I have a rwing BIL who thinks this very way...and I won't speak to him.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:48 PM
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10. Republicans want cheap labor
In the third world the wealthy have absolute power over the masses. The masses exist to generate wealth for the wealthy few. This scenario is a wet dream come true to the GOP.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:50 PM
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13. yep, and thats why private companies own prisons
and prisoners are the best cheap labour you can get..if the poor end up in prison all the better..cheapest slave labour available.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:49 PM
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11. They do not give a flying fuck, and that's the truth.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:50 PM
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12. They want everyone desperate so that they can get the cheapest labor they can.
That's why they do what they do in a nutshell. I guess money makes the wealthy happy--that and torture.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:51 PM
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16. Bingo!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:51 PM
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14. Read "The Shock Doctrine."
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:51 PM
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15. What they want is for the lazy poor to go out and work
to get enough money to pay the rent. Never mind that there are too few jobs out there, that there is no day care for the kids, and that the jobs that the poor are qualified to do don't pay enough to support a single person without children, they think the poor suffer from laziness alone.

It's only when they, themselves are beggared that the awful truth begins to set in.

Sadly, that's about to happen, I think.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:53 PM
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17. No, what they want is All The Stuff
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 12:55 PM by EstimatedProphet
The fact that the poor would have to starve doesn't even enter into the equation. They want All The Stuff, and that's all that matters to them.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:54 PM
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18. the sad thing is-many of the republicans in my town are poor
and losing business at an alarming rate.
A sad article in my paper a few days ago
http://www.thedailylight.com/articles/2009/02/10/news/doc498f114ddb5b0314457299.txt
Hard times hitting home
Economic meltdown impacting local small business


the sad thing is-even in hard times,they have to continue to quote the republican mantra


"Animated, agitated and at times tearful, Compton speaks from his heart on the trials and tribulations facing small business owners trying to survive America’s economic meltdown.

It’s a lecture Compton believes should be mandatory for every office holder working in Washington to dig the nation out of its current financial crisis.

From what he’s been able to follow in the news, Compton isn’t putting much hope into a federal rescue plan.

“All I hear about is how they want to spend money that we don’t have,” Compton said as his face flushed red with each word. “It’s like a dog on a lead line chasing a squirrel. He can give that squirrel a good chase for a while but eventually the line is going to run out and the impact is so hard it jerks a knot in his tail.

“I don’t hear anyone talking about what we’re going to do then,” he said. “How are we going to pay to get that knot out of our tail when the bill comes due? As bad as it is right now, I’m afraid we haven’t seen the eye of the hurricane yet. I think we’re just seeing the leading edge of the storm.”

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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:02 PM
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22. Those aren't true Republicans...just gullible rubes who fell for their line.
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 01:03 PM by YOY
A fool who votes against his own self interests is double so.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:56 PM
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19. Neither. They just don't want them to be.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:09 PM
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23. We pretty much know what they want. Now here is what they'll get
It'll start out slow, then rise to torches and pitch forks. Then comes the guillotine. NO economic system can with stand 30% unemployment. That'll be the breaking point.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:12 PM
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24. Republicans have limited views of the poor:
a. Inconvenient

b. Annoying

c. Cheap labor pool

d. Scapegoats

Any other view would mean that Republicans give a damn on some level. Which they don't.
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NewEnglandKnowledge Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:27 PM
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25. They just don't care
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 01:28 PM by NewEnglandKnowledge
Seriously, we need to wake up.  Republicans do not care about
poor, homeless, or sick people.  They care about staying rich
and keeping the poor people poor.  Since Regan, the earnings
gap has increased more than any time in history.  They think
taxes pay for lazy welfare moms who pop out kids to get a
bigger check.  They are not rational people, they sold their
souls on the cheap a long time ago.  This is why we must stop
asking these questions and focus on winning, and winning
alone.  The process is already underway to discredit Obama. 
The stimulus package will not work, even if it does, according
to the Reps.  Guns will be outlawed next, and according to
Sean Hannity we are in a socialist regime.  WAKE UP PEOPLE!! 
They play for keeps, its time we did the same!
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:32 PM
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26. The poor make the BEST GOP slaves !!
Just like the indentured servants during the colonial years of the US, the poor and unpropertied of today make the best slaves.

The way the "Seers, Movers and Shakers" of the GOP see things, real slaves were a problem because you had to buy them and own them. Which means upkeep.

Indentured servants, on the other hand, can be rented or thrown away. The historical maxim in the colonial era was that one should never risk their valuable black slaves on a task where one might be injured. In fact, "Get an Irishman!!" was a cautionary shout clear up till the time of the Civil War.

So, how do the predatory capitalist see the "citizens" of the US now?? If you think it is anyway other than as a disposable workforce for which they owe NO responsibility, you are fooling yourself.


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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:35 PM
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27. Yes. They favor a two-tiered society of wealth and abject poverty. It's not a secret.
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 01:38 PM by Marr
The average Republican voter doesn't know this, of course, but that's been the stated purpose of conservative politics in the US all throughout the ideology's heritage. This social ideal is openly advocated by the movement's real leadership, and always has been. Russel Kirk's book The Conservative Mind summarizes it and tracks it, and Kirk himself was a very influential American conservative.

Howard Zinn tracks it a bit in People's History of the United States as well, if I recall correctly.

The average Republican voter doesn't know they're voting to impoverish themselves, I assume. These voters think it's all about patriotism or the Bible or hard work or lower taxes for themselves, but it's actually about enriching the very top of society and keeping the rest of the population in a state of subsistence. Conservatives have traditionally considered that the most stable type of society.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:35 PM
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28. Which republicans? Rich republicans want poor people poorer and dumber because it makes them easier
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 01:35 PM by Evoman
take advantage of (until they get their heads cut off in the revolution, fuckers). Poor republicans plain don't think.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:42 PM
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29. They want them dead. Once they have sucked their bank accounts dry,
they want to cast the Little People aside like the sucked-dry husks of insects in a spider's web.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:42 PM
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30. Yes
They want a feudal system.They don't want us to see it for what it is. They are wannabe lords,as we are slaves to be exploited.
They want slave labor.They want us to obey and live to take care of them and serve them for a pittance or for NOTHING.
Desperate people sell themselves cheap.So they WANT us desperate, for the rich our desperation is very cost effective.

The rich are pathologically greedy.They don't care about us.Nobody has made them care about anyone else's well being for their whole lives.Why would they care now?

They are rich BECAUSE they ruthlessly exploit the people and feed off their needs and desperation...And in this system wealth= power.
So it is best to keep money out of the people's hands lest they have POWER.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:30 PM
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31. They want us dead.
And they're no longer hiding it.

They don't regard the pepple cooking and serving them their filet mignon as people. We're machines with body odor to them, useless eaters. Class warfare? Fuck 'em - THEY started this shit. How the fuck did they THINK we'd react?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:18 PM
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33. Yes. Yes, I think they really do want that.
I think they are envisioning some sort of cleansing as a result of tightening desperation and grinding hopelessness for an ever larger percentage of people. I think they are imagining that everyone will either perish or become stronger, with the help of the Lord Jaysus Almighty. The weak ones with loose morals will die, and the hard working righteous will rise up like the Phoenix because that "pulled themselves up by their bootstraps".


Disclaimer: I really have no idea what is going through neo-cons / republicans' minds at times like these. This is just my best guess.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:29 AM
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34. Of COURSE that's what they want. They always have.
They have always said that if someone couldn't pull their own weight they had better die and decrease the surplus population.
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