Americans For Prosperity - Who Are These 400,000 Morons and Why is MSNBC Covering Them LIVE ?

[K Gardner]

This group was just shown on MSNBC, protesting outside the capitol with "428,000 signatures" from "ordinary Americans". They were accompanied by congresscritters from mostly Southern states, I think. These people are demanding NO stimulus at all, well, except for tax cuts for the rich. I wonder how many of them are unemployed? From their website, here is a sample of their beef:

( Oh NoEs, a cigarette tax ! ) You may remember the famous promise from Obama on the campaign trail not to raise any tax on any family making less than $250,000 a year. Well, that lasted about two weeks. Today Obama is signing a 61-cent-per-pack hike in the federal cigarette tax, buried in the so-called SCHIP bill.

A lot of poor and middle-income smokers who voted for Obama based on his tax promise may feel betrayed immediately. All the nonsmokers out there should also be concerned, because with that promise already breached, you could be next in line.

( Teh TreeHuggers are Coming..Global Warming is a HOAX, it's SerIes!)“In a struggling economy with gas prices creeping back up and folks losing their jobs left and right, we simply cannot afford to spend billions of dollars on “green energy” that will make it more expensive to heat our homes,” said President of Americans for Prosperity, Tim Phillips. “We are disturbed to see the new administration has decided to bow to the will of extremist environmental interest groups, instead of doing what is best for the American people,” said AFP Policy Director Phil Kerpen. “In the midst of an economic downturn and a contentious national debate over the so-called ‘stimulus,’ Obama is seeking to stifle an essential component of the nation’s recovery efforts.”

(The SOCIALISTS are Coming to Take teh Hospitalz! ) What does the so-called “stimulus package” mean for your health care? Hidden in the dark recesses of this monstrous spending bill are the first steps towards full-on health care socialism.



Seriously, MSNBC - Was Henrietta's Homelessness just too much for you to cover? I know Matthews was VERY disturbed about the "real people" at Obama's Town Halls. You don't really think these right wing lunatics represent "average Americans" now, do you? Really?

www.americansforprosperity.com

[louis-t]

1. I absolutely promise you most sigs are fake.

These people are sick and gullible.

[oldeglory56]

74. I am a "so called average American"

And yes I signed the petition. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are still people out here who can indeed think for themselves. I hope you remember on which side you stood when you are lying on your death bed because the government decided you were just too old to receive the medical treatment you want and need. Yes, it's in there! Not to mention the fact that not one congressman read this bill before voting on it. So how did any of them even know what they were voting on? Would you buy a car without reading the contract. No sense in reading a bill that will cost future generations over a trillion dollars. Have you heard Nancy Pelosi or Pres Obama explain just how we will ever pay down this enormous debt? Well the only way government ever pays for anything is by taxing us. I don't know about you, but I can't pay any more in taxes, unless I give up those nasty habits of heating my home and eating. But I will sleep better at night knowing that the salt marsh mouse in Nancy's home state will have all the protection it needs, and all those people in CA can get to Las Vegas to waste their money at lightning speed. If they have any money left that is.

[AndyA]

2. I see Jim Inhofe right there in the big middle of it.

That tells me it's not in anyone's best interest but the Republicans and their cronies. :puke:

[NMDemDist2]

3. can you say AstroTurf?

I knew you could!! :evilgrin:

[ColbertWatcher]

26. I think you nailed it. n/t

[sandnsea]

4. Bless your heart for having the stomach

to report for the rest of us. They just give me a headache, and worse.

*sigh*

[BR_Parkway]

5. Some of the typical 'manufactured' RW groups appear to share the same address in DC

Haven't we seen this move time and time again by their PR firms to make it all look "grass roots" and "ordinary Americans"?

http://www.google.com/search?q=1726+M+STREET+NW+-+TENTH+FLOOR+-+WASHINGTON%2C+DC+20036&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Anyone want to help do a little digging?

[K Gardner]

10. Good Grief.. that link is a GOLDMINE of "average murkan" groups, all under one tax-exempt

address ! Good spelunking !

[BR_Parkway]

12. Yeah, global warming deniers, social security reform, even involved

with some lawsuit with the FCC to get them to overturn some ruling against ComCast.

[blogslut]

18. It's on a Smartech server

Smartech handles all the web hosting for...





wait for it














wait for it










The Republican party!

Whois Record

Registration Service Provided By: Enom, Inc
Contact:
Visit: www.enom.com

Domain name: americansforprosperity.com

Registrant Contact:
Americans for Prosperity
Americans for Prosperity ()

Fax:
1726 M Street, NW
Washington, DC 20036-4527
US

Administrative Contact:
Americans for Prosperity
DNS Administrator ()
+1.2023495880
Fax: +.
1726 M Street, NW
Washington, DC 20036
US

Technical Contact:
SMARTech Corp
DNS Administrator ()
+1.4236647678
Fax: [phone]
PO Box 11181
Chattanooga, TN 37401
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns1.cha.smartechcorp.net
ns2.cha.smartechcorp.net

Creation date: 28 Jan 2004 15:22:10
Expiration date: 28 Jan 2010 15:22:00

Anyone remember Smartech and the gwb43.com/lost email controversy?

[lifesbeautifulmagic]

6. this would seem to be an attempted coup

from people that lost the election.

[bluestateguy]

7. I don't take too kindly to second guessing of the commander in chief

The decider. The Commander. The Top Dog.

President Obama.

This nation is at war, and President Obama won the election.

These people should be arrested for treason.

[mmonk]

8. Suicide puppets

the 400,000

[Renew Deal]

9. Do these guys live in huts and use open flames for heat?

They are anti-"green energy". If they had their way we would still be living in Teepees.

[Hello_Kitty]

11. Gee, I bet this group doesn't have a problem with what we're spending in Iraq. eom

[LastConservativeDem]

13. Stimulus

Not every piece of the stimulus is necessary for the economy.

So cut what is not fiscally necessary and lets be done with
it.

[blogslut]

17. Welcome to DU

Care to elaborate? What would you like to see removed from the stimulus bill?

[LastConservativeDem]

32. I would remove

The Health care department that will be created to over see
information and that will have the ability to nay say medical
care if it deems it to costly.

Truthfully, if it is not tied directly to job creation or
smells like it will cost taxpayers more down the road, I would
want to review it first for its merits. If it passes the smell
test, then by all means, if not, then drop it from the bill.

We know there are things hidden in this bill that when they
see the light of day, Representatives or Senators would pull
them immediately. 

I just want honest representation in Washington and we have
not had that from either party in decades.

[K Gardner]

39. Health IT Services will be able to DENY healthcare to people? Wow ! Who knew?

[LastConservativeDem]

41. Does this not concern you,

That a government official can tell your doctor that you are
not a viable candidate for living?

[Nickster]

42. I much prefer the private insurance company official telling me whether I can live or die. You know

you are providing a very simplistic look at the situation right?

[LastConservativeDem]

50. A simplistic look

is sometimes what is necessary to see the real picture and the
cause and effects of issues.

[Nickster]

54. Or it's a convenient way to paper over all the gray areas to make a point look valid.

[LastConservativeDem]

55. Gray areas

They are hard for anyone to deal with because they are more
subject to opinions.

That is why as an IT person and being analytical I prefer to
keep things as uncomplicated as possible. That is why I do not
like the way most government agencies, from the county,
through the state to the federal level are ran and another
reason I am an advocate of having the people involved at every
level. We are the watch dog. That is why I want people to read
the legislation. 

[Name removed]

44. Deleted message

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[Hello_Kitty]

45. Dude, I read both the Senate and House stimulus packages and didn't see anything resembling that

The point of the health information infrastructure is so that providers have accurate information about patients to make good decisions about care and reduce mistakes. It has NOTHING to do with a bureaucracy issuing arbitrary life-and-death edicts. You are either seeing things that aren't there are working off of bad information.

[LastConservativeDem]

49. dudette

That is a lot of reading. You really read both versions in
full, and you did not see a mention of it at all?

You are referring to SEC. 9202. INVESTMENT IN HEALTH
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

I will find the portion that I read that I had concerns about
and post it here. 

[Hello_Kitty]

52. Yes. I read both.

I'm participating in HuffingtonPost's research project.

So go ahead and post the part you have a problem with, okay?

[LastConservativeDem]

57. Here is the area of my concern.

I apologize for the format problems of the version I am trying to read. It is horrible.




‘‘(b) PURPOSE.—The National Coordinator shall perform the duties under subsection (c) in a manner consistent
with the development of a nationwide health information technology infrastructure that allows for the
electronic use and exchange of information and that—
8
‘‘(1) ensures that each patient’s health information is secure and protected, in accordance with applicable law;
11
‘‘(2) improves health care quality, reduces medical errors, reduces health disparities, and advances
13
the delivery of patient-centered medical care; 14 ‘‘(3) reduces health care costs resulting from
15 inefficiency, medical errors, inappropriate care, duplicative care, and incomplete information;
17
‘‘(4) provides appropriate information to help 18guide medical decisions at the time and place of
19 care;

I emboldened or attempted to embolden the two areas that are the focus of my concern as I have seen the same terminology pop up several
times in my scanning the document. It states they intend to guide medical decisions. That bothers me and this is
why. I was raised in Oklahoma in the Cherokee Tribal area and I saw first hand the medical care that the government
administered to the Native Americans. It is not very good care due to the administrative burden placed upon the doctors.

So, I have concerns.

[Hello_Kitty]

61. I received U.S. government medical care in the military and it was great.

But at any rate, this Health Information program has nothing to do with implementing a government run medical program. It's about coordinating medical records so that doctors have access to accurate information about patients to help them make good decisions and reduce errors. As to the parts you bolded in the bill I don't see what the worry is. What you are concerned about sounds an awful like (debunked) talking points from a right wing think tank that have been in the news lately.

[LastConservativeDem]

66. Okay

I will trust your assessment of this section of the stimulus as you seem to approach this in a reasoned and well thought manner.

Those words I highlighted will still bear my scrutiny, but as I said, I will trust your assessment.

Let me ask you this, Do you think every dollar in the bill is a "good deal" for Americans? There is no right or wrong answer, I am just asking your opinion.

[Melinda]

63. Why are you bringing Right-wing talking points to DU?

The relevant section:

(b) PURPOSE.—The National Coordinator shall perform the duties under subsection (c) in a manner consistent with the development of a nationwide health information technology infrastructure that allows for the electronic use and exchange of information and that—

Note the heading PURPOSE. What is the purpose? The "development of a nationwide health information technology infrastructure"

And what will the development of a nationwide health information technology infrastructure accomplish? This IT system will:

(1) ensures that each patient’s health information is secure and protected, in accordance with applicable law;

(2) improves health care quality, reduces medical errors, reduces health disparities, and advances the delivery of patient-centered medical care;

(3) reduces health care costs resulting from inefficiency, medical errors, inappropriate care, duplicative care, and incomplete information;

(4) provides appropriate information to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care.

No-where in the above does the language or wording exists that allows those charged with development of the health IT information system to, in your words, "guide medical decisions". You are, in fact, regurgitating Right-wing talking points first written http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs">here in Bloomberg then furthered by Limbaugh on his 2/9 broadcast.

As http://mediamatters.org/items/200902100001">Media Matters pointed out on Feb 10th to Rush and his ilk, the language in the House bill that McCaughey, a former lieutenant governor of New York, referenced does not establish authority to "monitor treatments" or restrict what "your doctor is doing" with regard to patient care, but rather addresses establishing an electronic records system such that doctors would have complete, accurate information about their patients "to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care."

But I bet you knew that. :eyes:

[LastConservativeDem]

65. Why.

There is always truth in both sides of the issues if one cares to open up and listen.

How can one make a decision based on information from only one leaning? As my forum name
implies, I am a fiscal conservative. Period. And will not apologize when it comes to participating
in Government oversight of tax dollars and how they are spent (in many cases just flat wasted).

You obviously listen to both sides as well or you could not claim it to be a "talking point".

What is the point in the discussion of issues if one is not informed? I will never be a parrot
for the left or right. Our country deserves an informed electorate.

[Melinda]

71. Then why are you not listening? The logic of the language flows to its natural ending...

Your inference is illogical, your conclusion flawed. The purpose is clear and the way to affect the purpose spelled out plainly... it's about sharing information via IT, period. Feign away, but you fool no one here.

[LastConservativeDem]

72. Aw melinda

I am not trying to fool anyone here. I registered as LastConservativeDemocrat because I feel like that is the truth. What part of that is trying to fool anyone.

I do not know your age, but I was a registered Democrat before many of the people here were born. I consider myself a JFK Democrat.
Now granted I changed my affiliation to Independent in 1982 when the party moved left. I have libertarian leanings, I have fiscal conservative leanings as well but I am listening, that is why I am here. But your reference to fooling people is false. I walked to the party with these boots on, and if I decide to leave, I will wear them out the door as well. I am who I am.

What is illogical about what I stated as printed straight from the legislation? And why is the conclusion flawed? You could be correct but I personally feel it is more than the sharing of information, but that is my opinion and I will keep a close eye on the legislation and movement after its passing to make a final determination as I do not believe the government can do health care better than the competitive private sector. Once again I do not trust them after I watched how they handled the care of Native Americans.

[LastConservativeDem]

68. Actually

They were not my words, I pulled them directly from the stimulus bill. I did not do any word crafting. But Hello_Kitty already explained that to me and as I told her, I trust her assessment.

[LastConservativeDem]

58. And one more obvious question.

What part of the Health Care reform is stimulative to the economy?

I am nervous when I see this much reform embedded in an economic stimulus act.

I understand clearly the sections where they will pump money into the military
infrastructure, the VA Hospitals, etc. That legislation will create short term
jobs and possibly a few long term positions as well.

[Hello_Kitty]

62. It's considered an infrastructure improvement, similar to modernizing schools

It will create quite a few jobs in the short term and will save possibly billions of health care dollars in the long run.

[krispos42]

64. Think of it this way...

Republicans think that the bigger the GNP the healthier the economy is. But is that true?


I weight a few dozen pounds more than Michael Phelps, but unlike him, I'm fat. So who's healthier, me or Phelps?


Phelps, obviously.


Our economy is "fat" on healthcare excesses. Too much money being spent on redundant bureaucracy, executive paychecks, dividends, and other over-the-top shit and not enough on things like preventive medicine.


If we did something like Medicare-for-all, our GNP would shrink a few percentage points but our economy (and us) would be healthier.

[LastConservativeDem]

67. Thanks

You stated two things:

If we did something like Medicare-for-all, our GNP would shrink a few percentage points but our economy (and us) would be healthier.

and

Republicans think that the bigger the GNP the healthier the economy is. But is that true?


I just googled "Is larger GNP healthy".

I now have reading material for the next couple of weeks as I find this interesting.

Once again, thanks

[LastConservativeDem]

69. Good Link to share

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pV-c6t5fOVmNorqMpHvnCMw

[LastConservativeDem]

59. My main concern

I would rather have the health care discussion in another bill at another time. This is embedded in an economic stimulus bill and I fail to see how many private sector jobs it will create. Do you see anything in this bill that is worthy being cut?

I mean it can be said that the tax cuts will not directly add jobs either. It is an indirect mechanism but normally it does spur businesses to grow, reducing inventory and eventually adding new jobs.

[krispos42]

70. With health care costs doubling every six or seven years...

...this is a critical issue as well. Fully 10% of my gross pay goes toward medical and dental insurance, short-term disability, life insurance, and AFLAC. Only 1.3% goes to wards Medicare.

If I'm going to be paying 11.3% of my gross pay for health insurance, it would help everybody if we "cut the fat" with the insurance companies. As well to remember that there are huge deductibles and co-pays with private insurance.

Thom Hartmann notes that half of all bankruptcies are due to unpaid medical bills.

I'll note this: insurance companies often times seem lukewarm to preventive care because they may not see the financial benefit of such things. They won't cover things until they "get worse" because they are playing the odds that a rival will have to pick up the tab.

And people are often terrified of going to a doctor because of the potential costs. I know I am. My kid is sleeping in a chair by me. He has the stomach flu, and has been vomiting since 5am. I'd love to take him to a doctor, but where I live there's no walk-in clinic to go visit on a Saturday and the ER would cost huge amounts of money. So, I wait and worry.

With a single, nonprofit, no-shareholders government program that answers to the electorate delivering health-care money (NOT the health care itself), that attitude goes away because it is counterproductive. Things like neighborhood walk-in clinics would expand because they are cheaper for minor medical problems than hospitals. And with no deductible and modest co-pays, I'll gladly pay 11.3% of my gross pay to Medicare for the peace of mind of knowing that I can't be devastated by hospital bills at some time in the future.



USP health insurance would also free the employees from being tied to their employers via needed health insurance. No longer would "my job sucks but I can't leave because my spouse/child has ________ that would cost me $____ a month otherwise and I can't afford that". If your employer is an ass, you LEAVE.

And it would enable entrepreneurs to form single-proprietor businesses because the cost of healthcare for themselves and any employees would not be his or her problem. There are a lot of people that would like to start their own businesses but the costs are daunting. USP would help lower the costs and make it more realistic. This would also make larger business more competitive.


However, I'm speaking in generalities. I have not been following the debate for a variety of reasons. I'm in the process of moving, which is time-consuming. I'm down to 32 hours a week at my job, which means more time with my son but less time on DU. And I'm a moderator so I'm busy keeping the place clean and functioning.

[LastConservativeDem]

73. Your are correct.

I did not consider it speaking in generalities. As a small business owner I was paying on average of $800 monthly for catastrophic coverage with $5000 deductibles on each family member with a huge out of pocket max.

After all three of my daughters moved out of elementary and into the middle and high schools, my wife went to work for a major company and now provides that insurance coverage. And we well know the position of "If she quits, what do we do for health care again".

I also agree on your comments of making larger business more competitive. So maybe reform is necessary, but I just can not get over my mistrust of a government trying to run health care. I just hope that they actually perform customer service.

[K Gardner]

19. Tell us what isn't "fiscally necessary".

[LastConservativeDem]

40. I can tell you what is fiscally necessary.

We need to have our currency tied back to the Gold Standard. 

Here in Texas, I live just outside Ron Paul's District. He is
a big promoter of the Gold standard and from my limited
knowledge, I would agree. You just can't print money if you do
not have the gold to back it up. For 70 years now, Washington
has gone nuts. 

This is just my opinion as I am truly scared of the debt this
nation has accumulated and I see no one in Washington from any
party telling us how we intend to pay this back. It has to be
paid back? Correct?

The following is quoted from an article I was reading.

[The Bretton Woods System, enacted in 1946 created a system of
fixed exchange rates that allowed governments to sell their
gold to the United States treasury at the price of $35/ounce.
"The Bretton Woods system ended on August 15, 1971, when
President Richard Nixon ended trading of gold at the fixed
price of $35/ounce. At that point for the first time in
history, formal links between the major world currencies and
real commodities were severed". The gold standard has not
been used in any major economy since that time.]

http://economics.about.com/cs/money/a/gold_standard.htm

[HughBeaumont]

24. You guys like . . . don't even TRY anymore, do you?

Listen good and hard.

THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEED FOR A GODDAMNED STIMULUS IF THE LAST ASSHOLE WHO CALLED HIMSELF 'PRESIDENT' HADN'T ALMOST DOUBLED THE ALREADY-LARGE NATIONAL DEBT ON TAX CUTS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LEAST NEEDED IT AND VANITY WARS!!!!! BEWSH NEVER STOPPED HIS COSTLY WARS AND NEVER RAISED TAXES!!!

We are where we are because of shitbag Republicans and the wealthy they coddled (and still do). It's what a Democrat usually has to do when they become president - clean up idiot Friedmanite Conservaturd messes.

[LastConservativeDem]

36. Why

I am not sure why you are launching rounds at me. 

I want Fiscal responsibility in Washington from BOTH parties.
GET IT.

I live my life in a Fiscally Conservative manner and I expect
the same from
my Congress. 

[RagAss]

56. Well that won't happen.

In case you haven't noticed we have a party now devoted to the failure of America....and it ain't our party !!!

[ColbertWatcher]

27. True. But, that's not what this group is trying to do.

This group is trying to push another product: doubt.

That's all the GOP has been pushing since Reagan.

Oh, by the way, welcome to DU.

[LastConservativeDem]

33. thank you

thank you all you have welcomed me here.

[LastConservativeDem]

43. Doubt

Yes, they are trying to cast doubt upon the bill, that would
seem to be their strategy.

It does not help that people in Washington are pushing the
bill very hard and not giving us (the public) the opportunity
to scrutinize this and give us a chance to respond with a Yes
or No. Look what happened with the first stimulus, I am afraid
of the same results here.

I do not like anyone who comes across with a "I am
smarter than you, so you just need to trust us".

This is the from the same Congress whose last session had a
17% approval rating. They spent more time pissed off at Roger
for alleged steroid use than they did about any other major
issue or so it seems in my opinion. 

When was the last time we had accountability in Washington? 

[EstimatedProphet]

31. Oh look. Another genetic flub from Freeperville.

[LastConservativeDem]

35. Curious

Was the Freeper remark aimed at me? Or just a Bush joke?

[LastConservativeDem]

53. So

Judging by the no response to my question I have to assume you
were insulting me.

So, my question would be this.

Due to the fact that I simply question what is in the stimulus
package that they seem to be in an all fire hurry to pass with
minimal review by the public, I am a freeper?

I am a voter. I have a right to read legislation before it is
passed and have the right to question my Representative and
Senators on these issues.

Our government over the last 60 years has done numerous things
to earn my distrust. So having presented my case and you still
consider me a Freeper, then that becomes your problem and not
mine. 

Folks, I am a tight when it comes to my money, and I consider
the money I take to the bank every 15th in the form of a 941
tax payment as my money as well. We ALL deserve the right to
know for what. And if everything inside this stimulus is
fiscally responsible, then by all means. But politicians and
fiscal responsibility are not necessarily one and the same.

[SteppingRazor]

14. There's a few bios on the site's staff page...

and almost all of the people described are political operatives from Republican campaigns. For example, national director Tim Phillips was the campaign manager for Republican Rep. Bob Goodlatte of Virginia. Note how in the man's biography at americansforprosperity.com, though, he doesn't mention Goodlatte's party affiliation.

I love how even the people charged with promoting the image of the Republican Party are afraid to be associated with the Republican Party.

A few of the organization's directors and staff also appear to be affiliated, currently or formerly, with the Club for Growth, the rabidly conservative group founded by the WSJ's Stephen Moore.

[The_Commonist]

15. And then...

...there are the other 299,572,000 of us!

[Blue_Tires]

16. the only response to them should be:

OK smartasses; you come up with a comprehensive plan to pull us out of the recession!

there was an assclown behind me at the store a couple days back crying about pork and socialism and all those other fun buzzwords...and he was talking about his fellow anti-taxers staging staging some kind of overthrow in the future...yeah, right :eyes:

[K Gardner]

21. Many of the "anti-taxers" already refuse to pay income tax. They've been talking for

awhile now about a big "coup". I can't wait to see it :sarcasm:

[ColbertWatcher]

25. You should add "that doesn't reward the bastards that created the mess." n/t

[DBoon]

20. Who are they

They are the wealthiest 0.14% of the population, that' who these 428,000 people are

[kanrok]

22. Protest Away Douchebags

Maybe the best thing to do for those congresscritters who are against the stimulus bill is to decline taking any of the benefits of the bill for their constituents. Just don't take it. Easy.

[zbdent]

23. gee ... aren't cigarettes really a luxury?

and that, like the lottery, would be a voluntary tax ...

Don't want to pay the tax? Don't smoke.

Maybe you wouldn't be as poor if you didn't smoke so much ...

My MIL complains about the price of things ... and not long after, asks me to pick up a carton of smokes for her before I come over to her house ...

[ColbertWatcher]

28. Please help spread the Truthiness about AFP ...

... http://www.wikiality.com/Americans_For_Prosperity

[K Gardner]

29. Hah !! I love this - will do !

[Warpy]

30. Another front for pudgy rich white guys in expensive suits.

And their photo pretty much says it all.

[EFerrari]

48. Koch Family Foundations, major funders, you got it!

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Charles_G._Koch_Charitable_Foundation

[Kitty Herder]

34. Don't they mean Americans For the Prosperous?

And to hell with everybody else?

[SergeyDovlatov]

37. lol. Their website is under attack. No longer accessible

Unable to select database
We were able to connect to the MySQL database server (which means your username and password are okay) but not able to select the database.

The MySQL error was: Too many connections.

Currently, the database is afp. The username is afp and the database server is localhost.

•Are you sure you have the correct database name?
•Are you sure the database exists?
•Are you sure the username has permission to access the database?
For more help, see the Installation and upgrading handbook. If you are unsure what these terms mean you should probably contact your hosting provider.

[K Gardner]

38. Whoopsie !! I can't access it now either. n/t

[hfojvt]

46. Doesn't their website say who they are?

AFP - a Reaganomics advocating group started by my Uncle Dave and Mellon-Scaife. They might have 400,000 members. They get lots of free press around here from the newspapers. I don't know why they think they matter. 400,000 signatures? So what? Over 58 million people voted for McCain, didn't they? Here's a hint to you guys - you lost.

[AyanRand Is Dead]

47. prosperity for who?

Prosperity for the Investor Class?

Prosperity for the traitors that ship american jobs overseas?

Prosperity for corrupt and incompetent bankers?

[spanone]

51. let's allow these morans to exempt themselves from benefitting from the stimulus

[Cerridwen]

60. Grover Norquist, Michele Malkin, Heritage Foundation, et. al.

Heritage Foundation Online Research Training (Invitation Only)
<snip>
• The Hon. John Carter, U.S. Congressman - 31st District of Texas
• Grover Norquist, President of Americans for Tax Reform & Author of Leave
Us Alone: Getting the Government’s Hands Off of our Money, Our Guns,
Our Lives (Harper Collins, 2008
<snip>
Lunch with Commentator Michelle Malkin

Better formatted at this link

Does Barry W. Poulson, PhD ring a bell for anyone else?