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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:33 PM
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Maybe you thought you were imagining it? You weren't.


And it is just getting worse.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/28/cable-news-stimulus/

And you thought there might be some experts on the air?



Think again.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200902110027?f=h_top




The media is arguably worse - arguably **much** worse - now than in the run up to the election. We need to work eight times as hard for one fourth the impact on the airwaves and over the cable wires.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:34 PM
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1. it helps when you're watching them
to imagine that you are at the monkey house at the zoo.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:46 PM
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11. That's IT!!!!
Apologize to the monkeys.............

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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:01 PM
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44. the one on the left
looks like Pat Buchanan

prolly sounds like him too, when he gets all wound up and upset
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:46 PM
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13. That was always the saddest part of the zoo.
The monkeys would crap in their hands and eat it, the same as the Republicans, except I liked the monkeys, and felt sorry for them.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:37 PM
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2. CNN has been the I-Heart-Mitch-McConnell channel since about 1/20/2009
Thanks for these charts--I suspected as much, but I can think of a few Conservatives I know who'd still claim I was imagining it.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:38 PM
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3. Gee! From the first graph, Faux appears the most equitable of the bunch
but, I'm sure the ones they had made up for it in intensity of rabidness
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:42 PM
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6. Nah - out of the 7 or 8 Dems they had on faux
6 of them were Lieberman.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:44 PM
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36. Lieberman is an Independent and not a Democrat n/t
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:57 PM
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37. Lieberman is an RepubliCON...
not an Independent or a Democrat.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:40 PM
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41. Although he may resemble that clever and witty moniker, he is still an Independent. n/t
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:38 PM
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4. Those visuals really drive it home. K & R.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:40 PM
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5. And the Dems wonder why they can't get their message out!
Why can't they step it up and make sure they are appearing on tv too?

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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:44 PM
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7. Probably why I won't watch TV! nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:01 PM
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57. Same here. I watch movie classics, House and one or two other things
Like Monty Python when I can find it.

And Rachel And KO. Other than that, I'd rather do something, anything else.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:17 PM
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60. I do have to admit though, there's a few shows
worth watching. I have been drawn into the Amazing Race when it's on, I still like 60 Minutes (I've watched that since I was a kid) and of course, SNL. I sincerely hope that the whole reality thing is going to wind down. Hopefully, TV will improve with an intellectual President! I'm still thrilled with every speech...
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:44 PM
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8. One thing that has not changed...
Media bias
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:45 PM
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9. Makes it pretty damn clear.
Dems underrepresented in EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE!

Thank you for this, Stinky. CNN is the most pathetic. I'm seriously thinking of dropping cable. Why pay for right wing propaganda?
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:27 PM
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46. I did, and I can tell you I don't regret it at all.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:45 PM
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10. Stinking 'librul' media! n/t
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:46 PM
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12. this is why we are getting the bipartisan clubbing
instead of the Republicans who are "reaching out" with clenched fist when they are not putting their hands behind their backs like schoolchildren. We do need more of us out there.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 10:51 PM
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14. You'd never know that we're in the majority.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:09 PM
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15. This is why i go to the Web and Air America and Pacifica for my news. Screw the
corporate repig media.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:21 PM
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31. I would add "The Real News Network," and "Democracy Now,"
which can be podcast from a Pacifica link (which you mention), but I vidcast it directly from the "Democracy Now" link, www.democracynow.org. Also, can we mention Al Jazeera English (also good)?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:12 PM
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16. Well, well! Look at Fox News Channel actually appear "fair & balanced"!
LOL. Who am I kidding? It's safe to assume the Democrats represented on Fox had their mics turned down and were constantly interrupted, then ridiculed by a hot, young, female talking-head. Fox is so predictable.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:18 PM
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17. CNN is working overtime to outfox FOX.
I am glad someone else is monitoring them because I sure as hell don't pollute my beautiful mind with their crap.
Thanks for posting.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:23 PM
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18. K&R'd! and so wish i cd K more.
i've lived in stunned-dom for years that so few DU'er's, let alone Dem Pols, get this issue.

Election integrity (paper ballots) -- first priority

Media reform (restore Fairness Doctrine and ESP. restrictions on consolidation of media ownership -- second priority)

Without these, everything else we do is pushing water back over a busted dam.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:36 PM
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19. Thanks, Stinky. Rec'd! And the fact that you've been railing
against the media for years isn't lost. You've been right.
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BalancedGoat Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:38 PM
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20. Three days is a rather small sample size.
I'm sure the results would probably be similar, but they should have tracked the numbers for at least a week.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:58 PM
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43. Hard to do
Unless you got volunteers to do it--hey, wait, WE could do it!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:27 AM
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21. It is alwa;ys good to have ones gut feeling confirmed.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:45 AM
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22. Wow, CNN makes FOX look almost "fair and balanced"
This is pathetic.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:19 AM
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23. Bookmarked for citation every time a DU'er argues that America doesn't need the Fairness Doctrine
Note: the data doesn't even cover radio, where Democrats are likely outnumbered 20-1 and in MOST communities receive little or no airtime at all.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:18 AM
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24. Right, am sending this to my Congress-critters n/t
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:21 AM
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25. K&R
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:51 AM
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26. And here I thought FNC would top it but it is MSNBC



Home of Keith and Maddow



I am so confused.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:34 AM
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27. They use Olbermann and Maddow as cover ......
... wtach them during the day and they love the right wingers.

Watch that MorningMotherfucker show and that is **all** they have on .....
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byeya Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:41 AM
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28. letting the tv go dark
I think I made the right decision not to convert my tv to digital this month and let it go dark. I just use it for DVDs anyway so the hell with the corporate new$.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:23 PM
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45. alas ... I only see their Internet snips...thx for the info
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 11:56 AM
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29. K&R
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:12 PM
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30. Thank you! I am sending this right now to
someone who thinks MSNBC is the most liberal of the lot.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:33 PM
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32. I wish EVERY DEM would refer to this as a JOBS BILL!!!!!
JOBS, JOBS, JOBS! They need to pound that message home.

The Repukes are MASTERS at this. (smoking gun, mushroom cloud, fighting them over there, etc...)

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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:36 PM
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33. You know how a guest Democrat can be.
They go on and on with boring stuff like facts, figures, and studies. On the other hand, the Repubs are so entertaining with all their "outrage", hand wringing, scenarios of doom, gloom, tax increases, and the biggest horror of it all, socialism.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:41 PM
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34. Same old story . . . but why is anyone tuning in to this garbage . . . ???
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:44 PM
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35. Wow! I knew it was bad, but I didn't think it was that bad. nt
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:45 PM
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38. And a big Kickanarec....the truth shall set you free....someday...nt
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:52 PM
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39. Nothing has changed since the Iraq War to make sure it won't happen again. Shit, they haven't even
admitted they did anything wrong.
These media companies need to be broken up.
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jennied Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:25 PM
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40. I definitely noticed.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:44 PM
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42. I was appalled the other day when Krugman had to ...ahem ... debate with
George Will (you shut the f*** up) - regarding the economic mess earlier this week.

shameful when a Pulitzer prize winning economist with active braincells must deal with the braindead

I always heard that someone could only have a reasonable discussion with someone within 30 IQ points of their own score and it really proved that theory
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:46 PM
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47. K&R
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:47 PM
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48. What should we do about it? There are many of us you know, we can do something nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:52 PM
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50. Aside from buying our own network
nothing can be done. These networks represent corporate interests only. That is why the media is our most pressing issue.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:24 PM
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53. What about inundating them with mail every day, and e-mail as well, and...
writing letters to the editor, complaining wherever we can, writing the president and congressmen about how the media is imbalanced, protesting out on the street, signing petitions to be sent everywhere, etc.? In other words, making an all-around ruckus. What about that?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 07:49 AM
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69. I have been trying that
for about eight hours a day. Seems to me the Reich Wing speaks with a megaphone while our voice is represented in a whisper.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:49 PM
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49. The corporate media is trying to set the Republicans up for a win in 2010, nation be damned or not.
Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Stinky The Clown.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:54 PM
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51. I wrote MSNBC and provided them with the thinkprogress link....
I asked them how they plan to write this wrong.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:57 PM
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52. And the Morans screech on about the media being liberal.
:dunce: :silly:
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La Coliniere Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 05:40 PM
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54. This is SO obvious..
it truly stinks to high heaven. CNN is possibly the worst, I stopped watching. So should you.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:01 PM
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55. They are generous with the economist label. Laffer is a laugher.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:04 PM
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56. Assume 63 Senate Dems, 295 Representatives after the mid-term elections . . .
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 06:04 PM by hatrack
There won't be any Democrats on any television or cable channels, given the trend to date.

:eyes:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:09 PM
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58. Just a thought, but could it be possible that
Democrats and Economists are actually busting their asses WORKING at trying to fix this crisis instead of promoting themselves on TV?


:think:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 08:51 PM
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63. If that's true, then the win the Most Hapless Do Gooder Ever Award
This shit's been going on for Twenty Eight Years.

28 years

Twenty Eight

Count 'em.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:10 PM
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59. And probably all the ones on MSNBC were on Keith and Rachel with a few
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 07:10 PM by MasonJar
on Hardline.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 07:36 PM
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61. And all this time I thought the liberal media was destroying the country...
:eyes:
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 08:33 PM
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62. So, with all of this known, why isn't there more of a battle put up by the dems and all allies
of dems. Where is G. Soros, Move-on, etc. Just seems there must be a way to take these people down. If the repukes can do it, so can we.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:09 PM
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64. BBC World & Al Jazeera English can be seen 24/7 for free, here...
(it's worth downloading the player for easier and v. good quality viewing)

BBC World: http://www.livestation.com/channels/10-bbc_world_news_english

AJ English: http://www.livestation.com/channels/3-al_jazeera_english
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 09:30 PM
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65. BTW, very good program has just started on BBC World... n/t
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 09:42 PM by Turborama
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:30 PM
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66. "Error: You've already recommended that thread."
We're currently studying media bias, and I'll be showing this thread to my students. Thanks for the link and keep up the good fight DUers!

:dem:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 10:39 PM
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67. Corporate media helps the corporate party.
Shouldn't surprise anyone, but there are still an amazing number of people in this country who seem to think the media is liberal.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 12:04 AM
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68. Kick for Stinky's graphics
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 07:51 AM
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70. Oh those GOPers are experts alright
in stupidity.
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proletariat04 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 06:18 PM
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71. Jan 26-28? Not good data
Look guys, before you start pointing this out to conservatives as proof the the "liberal" media is really conservative media, look at the dates that this study includes. It's not proof of a long standing correlation of media bias. While it's quite obvious that Fox is a speakerbox for the right: they frame every question, conveniently cut off anyone who doesn't agree with that perspective before they can flesh out their ideas, and deliberately mislead and report false charges, the fact that these news outlets have more republicans than democrats doesn't necessarily prove that they are biased, either. The republicans are opposing the stimulus, and as such are creating a news opportunity that will generate income for the news agencies reporting on it. The same way Obama was much more prominent in media coverage compared to McCain. Obama created more money generating "news." The media will sell anything that can make money, regardless of what ideology is behind it. What really concerns me is the data showing that economists make up a very little portion of the interviewees. If we have news media reform, it should go farther than balancing republican speakers and democratic speakers, it should do something to get real professional, technical, and scientific opinion when these are relevant to the debate in question. Not to mention letting third parties get a foot-hold in the BIalouge...
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