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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 12:54 PM
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Strike down PROP 8
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51179&id=15571-10933385-Dx9KL6x&t=2

Click below to see this beautiful video and sign their letter to the California Supreme Court asking it to strike down Prop 8, reject Ken Starr's case, and let all loving, committed couples marry.

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:02 PM
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1. I have already signed a petition to stop this nonsense of
Ken Starr and his prop 8 harassment toward the marriage of same sex couples. But I'm kicking this so that those who haven't seen this will get a chance to voice their disagreement toward Ken Starr/prop. 8.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:05 PM
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2. thank you!!
that's what i was hoping for. exposure for those who want to help.

:grouphug:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:08 PM
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3. Should courts base their judgements based on the number of letter they recieve from each side, or
based on the law?
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 01:24 PM
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4. it's a petition to get starr's case thrown out.
the case is that they want to nullify those 18,000 marriages that took place before prop 8 passed.

that's bullshit.

it's never wrong for the public to denounce and cry out against unjust laws. your question doesn't apply here. they're not trying to change the law with this petition, they're trying to protect the rights of those who married legally before the bullshit prop 8 passed.

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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:26 PM
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6. Starr's case may well be null and void.
At the very least, it should not be considered until the CA Supreme Court rules on Prop 8, which will occur within 90 days of March 5.

The attempt by Starr and Co. to push this through seems to me like adding insult to injury, knowing the likelihood of an overturning of Prop 8 by the Supremes, they are hoping to do as much damage as possible before they are defeated.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:24 PM
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5. Should American citizens sit down and shut up?
I believe it is my right and my duty to speak out when I believe America is doing it wrong.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:37 PM
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7. Of course you have a right to speak out. But do you want a judiciary which bases its rulings on
public opinions? We could just get rid of juries and decide the guild or innocence of the accused by whichever side gets the most text messages. Do we really want an American Idol justice system?
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 03:32 PM
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8. you're right, petitions are such a waste of time.
sheesh, what was i thinking.

:sarcasm:

your argument makes no sense in this context. people should still be heard regardless.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 04:20 PM
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9. They are not when you are trying to influence legislators and the executive branch
The CA Courts were to follow what the people wanted, they would uphold Prop. 8, as it got a majority of the vote. But you (and I as well) are hoping they will follow the Constitution, rather what is popular.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 06:17 PM
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10. i believe we just found some common ground. n/t

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