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Sat Feb-14-09 10:15 AM
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How much per hour will the new jobs in the stimulus package pay ? |
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Sat Feb-14-09 10:17 AM
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1. Kind of jumping ahead, aren't you? |
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It just passed - I don't think it will be a case of work immediately. I imagine they need a little time...
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Sat Feb-14-09 10:17 AM
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2. Dunno - are the jobs here or did they decide to outsource them to other countries? |
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Only somewhat sarcastic... and I really doubt they are unionized.
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Sat Feb-14-09 10:18 AM
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Many will be blue-collar or green-collar jobs, probably paying 15-30 dollars an hour. I am just guessing.
But, what is important is that it will domino throughout various industries, increasing productivity and income for many throughout the country.
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Sat Feb-14-09 10:31 AM
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4. Just wondering. There must be a number associated with the jobs. |
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They assigned a dollar figure to create the jobs. Is that money for administrative purposes ? Is that money going to be spent on agencies to create the jobs ?
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Sat Feb-14-09 10:37 AM
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5. Some of it will go to government agencies for projects. |
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Such as updating government buildings to be more energy-efficient. Those projects will create new jobs to do the work, as well as spread out in the industry for production of materials. The added bonus is it will save the government money in a very short time, as the building will require lsee to heat and cool them.
Other projects are lined up throughout the country, at all levels of government. There is a lot in the bill, and I don't know all the details or all the plans.
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Sat Feb-14-09 10:54 AM
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7. Does the stimulus money actually pay the wages of the new jobs |
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or does it pay for agencies to create new jobs? My life and my work are totally dependent on the stimulus working. I will do research on my own, but was looking for any quick information here. Thanks for the time.
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Sat Feb-14-09 11:21 AM
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Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 11:23 AM by Oregone
but it doesn't micromanage paying wages for the new jobs. It will give money to a public school, who may publicly hire someone as an aid. Or, it will fund a project that awards a contract to a company, who privately hires workers (but probably uses prevailing wage tables).
As far as I know, they didn't write in, "and there shall be 8 new steelworker jobs in Branson, Missouri, of people getting paid $24.67 and hour". One, the Senators don't have the time to write such in, and two, micromanaging within a general stimulus bill would be terrible inefficient.
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Sat Feb-14-09 10:52 AM
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6. For direct contracts, it will probably be Prevailing Wage. |
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This varies by job. May be over $20 bucks an hour for a lot, which is well-above what some people in construction get paid. My brother-in-law is involved in a lot of government jobs now, and makes as much in 4 hours that he is used to making in a day (which is good since he only works 4 hours a day now.
For the stimulated industries, itll probably just be market wages.
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Sat Feb-14-09 11:01 AM
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8. So the stimulus money doesn't pay actual wages, |
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it will be for agencies to create the jobs ?
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Sat Feb-14-09 11:16 AM
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9. For the most part, it will fund projects... (at least for infrastructure type jobs) |
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Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 11:18 AM by Oregone
Projects will need to find companies and materials to complete the said work. This has a stimulating effect on the economy.
I imagine there may be some direct government job creation in there that someone may be able to provide more information on (funding schools or other government programs will create government jobs), but this is not normally the main mechanism for economic stimulus. They aren't just going to put everyone on Uncle Sam's payroll though.
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Sat Feb-14-09 11:45 AM
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11. OK, So x amount of money will be for like building a bridge, |
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The project in its entirety will come from that money, wages paid, materials bought . Then y amount of money will be for like a community involvement group to generate interest in local business. Some money for projects and some money for agencies to promote projects. Thanks for your time and patience. I used to drive professors nuts in college. I can solve hyperbolic paraboloids in my head, but to get to that point I had to have every variable completely resolved. I would accept nothing on faith. Thanks again for your indulgence.
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Sat Feb-14-09 12:31 PM
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All there is now is money that seems to be and again who can say what the money will go to if you can even figure what is in this package and I hate the word package as a descriptive.
I would imagine any construction work might go to the lowest bidder and then the workers might even be subcontract workers which means no healthcare and the worker pays their own taxes. I doubt these are union jobs.
It seems you have to trust some company to hire and pay the workers the going rate and this work has to be over seen so it is done right.
As far as being government jobs ie , rebuilding government buildings and making them green and we are told this will save the tax payes money who the hell will prove this out in the end? What should be done to re-build and green coat government buildings is take the profits from these war contractors like KBR and use that too fund the government projects since this money was stolen from the people to begin with.
It seems like you need entire government agencies comprised of people with direct knowledge to over see these projects so there goes some of the money.
If most of the materials are not made to to do this work then we lose once again.
I don't trust anyone to do the right thing after what we have seen up to this point. Unless they use proven contractors who have a proven track record then it's up for grabs.
Perhaps some people will find a good paying job in all of this but I fear most will end up with some blue collar min wage job pile drived by some push the limits contractor.
I hear all about new jobs created but I have not hear what sort of jobs they will become in this jump start description.
If these so called contractors are willing to work for a lower bottom line and pay the workers well then we have a start but when you see that happen do let me know.
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