erpowers
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Sun Feb-15-09 09:07 AM
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American Auto Makers and NASCAR |
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Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 09:08 AM by erpowers
ESPN's Outline the Lines is doing a story about the fact that American auto makers are still spending money on NASCAR sponsorships even though they have received billions in bailout money. According to the OTL report Ford, GM, and Chrysler last years gave anywhere from $60 million-$100 million to NASCAR. My question is should American auto makers be allowed to give money to NASCAR if they are taking money from the government?
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Sun Feb-15-09 09:08 AM
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1. Woud you have them abandon print and broadcast advertising too? |
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Sun Feb-15-09 09:17 AM
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2. Actually this is good, targeted advertising. |
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They're probably getting more bang for their advertising buck by sponsoring NASCAR than any of the stupid ads I see for local car lots.
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Sun Feb-15-09 09:18 AM
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3. And cheap - a minute of Superbowl advertising cost as much as a NASCAR team |
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Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 09:19 AM by ThomWV
People take a leak during the Superbowl advertising, but the NASCAR team is out there weekend after weekend, and they visit dealerships too.
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Sun Feb-15-09 10:03 AM
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Cost of a 30 second Superbowl ad in 2009;
$2.6 million.
Average annul budget of a top tier NASCAR Sprint Cup team;
$25 - $35 Million
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Sun Feb-15-09 09:18 AM
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4. I'm sure you get money from the government in some form |
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Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 09:19 AM by taterguy
Which choices of yours would you like the government make for you?
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erpowers
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Sun Feb-15-09 03:23 PM
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10. I Did Not Get Billions |
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If I do get money from the government I did not get billions of dollars from the government. The government did not bailout my failing business. Even if I were or am getting money from the government I think it is a big difference between getting thousands of dollars from the government as opposed to billions. There is also a big difference between getting money from the government because your business almost failed than for other reasons.
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Sun Feb-15-09 09:19 AM
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5. Race fans have huge huge brand loyalty |
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and they can't afford to lose that. There are TONS of NASCAR fans. That's well spent advertising money.
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Sun Feb-15-09 10:01 AM
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6. Slightly off the subject - but if most cars eventually go electric or hybrid |
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Sun Feb-15-09 10:06 AM
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8. I'm sure that NASCAR will continue |
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After all, for most auto companies NASCAR races are places for them to push the envelope. I imagine we'll be seeing tweaked out hybrids and electrics, thus pushing the developmental envelope, and eventually we'll see some of these changes make it to the showroom floor.
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Sun Feb-15-09 01:35 PM
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The current cars are 3400lbs, rear wheel drive, standard transmission, with carbuerated push-rod V-8 engines. Which is quite different from what most people are driving already.
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Sun Feb-15-09 06:44 PM
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stupid people. Beer guzzling idiots. NASCAR is 60 year old technology. They REQUIRE carburetors and DON'T ALLOW fuel injection. Motorcycles and open wheel is where it's at. Biker D
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Sun Feb-15-09 06:50 PM
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12. Somewhat depends on standing contracts, but |
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at this point I don't think Ford has taken any money so a restriction wouldn't apply to them anyway.
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