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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:37 AM
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My 10,000th post and I guess I'll admit it... I'm a LIBERAL after all.
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 09:45 AM by The Doctor.
A whole slew of folks here know that I was raised Republican in a Republican family. We're WASPs to be more specific... although my siblings and I had our teeth separated when we were young.
As some know, I've been posting here as a registered Republican for the last several years, sometimes a little apologetically.

It all started with Bush*, of course.

It was during the 2000 debates when I made up my mind that Al Gore, despite his woodenness, was a far better choice for President than the dopey fellow from Texas. I had been slowly turned off from the Republican message during the Clinton administration. It just made no sense to me whatsoever to go after a sitting President for fooling around with an intern. If ever there was a waste of national resources, time, and attention, it was the Clenis hunt. What I couldn't get over was the sheer vitriol, the incessant, vile, and blind outrage over something that couldn’t possibly harm the nation… unless, of course, a good percent of the country threw an embarrassing tantrum over it. :eyes:
Sure, there were real issues worthy of criticism, but it was very clear from ‘Conservative’ behavior that the goal was outrage rather than constructive improvement.
So, after years of puzzling over some of the ludicrous behavior of the ‘right’, I went into 2000 hoping things would get better.

Little did we all know.

So I’m watching the debate, and a question about spending came up. I listened to Gore answer cogently and directly. He expressed proportions and limits, and generally made sense… to those who were following. Then, in a stroke of political cunning, and perhaps because he too didn’t quite follow Gore’s numbers, Bush recognized that millions of people heard Gore and were scratching their heads and called Gore’s summary ‘Fuzzy Math’.
At that moment, I knew what he did and why it portended bad things. He realized that there were many, many people that were barely cognizant. Instead of giving his own cogent response, he harnessed that mass ignorance, and in one fell swing, he gained their approval by excusing their lack of understanding. He basically told several million people that it ‘wasn’t their fault’ because Gore’s numbers were ‘fuzzy’. I knew that someone who harnessed ignorance to his benefit was wrong for the country. Even then I had no idea how right I was.

So, for the next few years I felt I was through the looking glass. My country had seemingly gone insane and so few people even noticed. I understood that few people wanted to be bothered with ‘boring politics’, but it was like trying to tell everyone that we were sailing into an iceberg and no one cared.

Then, I found something online; it was a loud screed about an ‘anti-American’ site that promoted ‘criminal acts’ http://www.democraticunderground.com/mail/hatemail_22.html ">Against Wal-mart. I followed the links, and here, on DU, I finally found sanity.
Major props to Skinner, Elad, and EarlG for having the foresight to build this island of sanity in the midst of our great national nightmare. Even they could not have known just how bad things would get.

So here I was, feeling for a while like I only barely belonged because I still had an ‘R’ on my registration card. I really didn’t want to change my registration because the Republican party actually had decent values at some point. My parents were Eisenhower Republicans too, but while I recognized that the party had strayed into insanity, they, like so many others, believed that the name was the thing, not the actions. I stubbornly kept my registration because I truly believed that it was everyone else that was going insane, and I refused to stop ‘being’ a Republican just because they abandoned the values Republicans were supposed to stand for.
I used to make small distinctions between my own personal philosophy and the 'Liberal' philosophy on issues like gun rights and the death penalty, but even upon examining those, there’s really not much about ‘liberalism’ I can disagree with.

After years of DU, and consequential research, no one can believe that the ‘Right’ has any claim to legitimacy any more.

What I’ve found among the Liberal community are values that no one on the ‘Right’ can lay claim to;

- A healthy respect for reasoned discourse, facts, logic, and rational debate.

That’s me.

- Real respect for justice and the rule of law over any issues of consequence.

Me again.

- An unwavering dedication to the rights of the underprivileged and the working class in pursuit of a strong economy and stable society.

Right here!

- The fight against corporate greed and the corruption of our government by those inhuman corporations.

Where do I sign?

- Belief in a future of prosperity for all.

That’s the ticket!

- Fighting for the preservation of the environment that provides for all of us now, and for future generations on what we believe will become a well-managed planet Earth.

I am SO there!

…. And the list goes on.

After knowing all of this, and understanding, in demonstrable fashion, that the ‘Right’ is on a crusade to take us backwards rather than into a peaceful and prosperous future, there’s no possible way I could identify with today’s ‘conservatives’ any more than an eagle could confuse itself with a warthog.

So from up here in the DU aerie, even though it’s not always clean or solemn, I’m happy to take a fresh breath, feel the breeze on my shoulders, and say with pride that I am, indeed and in spirit, an honest-to-greatness Liberal.

Thank you again Skinner, Elad, and EarlG. You’ve done a great thing here not just for those of us seeking sanity in this harrowing world, but potentially for the future of America and even humanity itself… even if in some small way.



Now… what should I change my registration to when next I renew my license… :think:

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:39 AM
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1. I was raised by Republicans too. That's why I always know what their thinking.
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 09:39 AM by Joanne98
Welcome to the light side.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:53 AM
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2. Thanks!
Really, they don't do an awful lot of thinking. It's really just amazing to me.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:57 AM
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3. Welcome to the fold!
My entire extended family is kool-aid drinking ditto heads. May our Higher Power have mercy on their deluded souls.

Again, welcome to the light! :-) :hi:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:46 PM
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8. Thanks, but actually... I've been there for a while.
Sure, I considered myself an 'enlightened Republican', but really you can't be enlightened and not be a lib.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 10:01 AM
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4. Rec! Welcome to the world of
thinking outside the box. No, seriously, I wish you would recruit more of your compatriots.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 10:04 AM
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5. I've tried... not without some small success.
I've definitely been an 'out of the box' thinker my whole life, but some things, like recognizing the failure of today's Republican ideology, don't require any special thought.

Thank you.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 10:39 AM
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6. Ahhh...the fuzzy math moment!
I'm glad it didn't escape you like it did so many others.

I believe that moment actually defined what the rest of Bush's *residency would become...obfuscation...framing issues...confusion....projection...outright lies.

It worked so well that they kept on doing it. They're still doing it, even though the reign of Mad King George is over.


I remember that moment during the debate, and I also remember thinking, "Aha!!! Gore's got him now! You can't argue with facts!" Well now we know how to argue with facts - just make it up along the way.

Anyway, congratulations for seeing the ploy, and welcome to the other side.

:)
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:21 PM
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11. Well, I guess I was never
'on the other side' to begin with.

I only voted Republican a couple of times, then voted for Clinton's second term.

I thought Rush was ok in the late 80's, early 90's, but he just went right off the deep end under Clinton.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 10:46 AM
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7. Liberals are essence - ially Inclusive; they conserve by preserving ALL resources, not just money.
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 10:48 AM by patrice
Whatever it is that Those-Who-Have-Gone-Insane are doing is essence - ially Exclusive, which ultimately puts everyone at everyone else's throats (or putting a knife in their backs) and it is, therefore, NOT conservative.

Because Liberalism is inclusive, it includes the seeds of it's own destruction, e.g. Those-Who-Have-Gone-Insane, and because Liberalism is inclusive it is extremely complex. Hence American Liberalism has developed a strong vein of empirical rationalism by means of which many disparate factors ARE integrated into something approximating Reality.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:27 PM
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9. The dividing line seems to be intellectual laziness.
I've found that many people just don't put any effort into developing their opinions. They don't understand that for an opinion to have value, it should be based on facts and sound reason. Some people just want to believe what they want to believe regardless of reality.

I've found it very interesting that so many on the right are afraid of bringing back the fairness doctrine. At some level, they know that their sources can't withstand contrast.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:09 PM
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10. Yes, I understand that even Adam Smith said that Labor is a primary Value.
More thoughts on this later . . . I need to meet my street-corner friends downtown.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:41 PM
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12. I am a 100% die-hard, to-the-bone Liberal. Welcome, Doctor!
My wife is right now where you have been in the past few years. She is a Republican who is really ashamed of the brain-dead, hate-filled sleazy greasy con-men who have taken over the Party of Lincoln. She can't bring herself to switch to the Democrats, whom she has been told all her life by her wealthy born-again parents are the "enemy". Even though she married a liberal Dem. She recognizes that Dems make better Presidents (her personal fave is Jimmy Carter) but still can't bring herself to identify as anything other than a Republican.

Maybe someday...

Anyway, great story. As one who voted for Bush Sr. (Twice! :eyes: ) I can tell you: embracing one's inner Liberal is a beautiful thing...
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:57 PM
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13. My dear Doctor!
Beautifully and perfectly said!

Nothing to add, but


K&R

Off to the Greatest Page with you, and well deserved!


:loveya:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 05:45 PM
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16. You're so sweet.
:hug:
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 05:35 PM
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14. Well Doc the Republican party has come a long way
From the party of Eisenhower.
But they sold their soul to the devil with the southern strategy, which appealed to the lowest base they could find.
But now if they are to survive they must extract themselves from an ever dwindling population of racist and concentrate on the rest of the population.
But it is going to take a lot more than just having a token black man as chairman.
k&r
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 05:41 PM
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15. I'd say 'fallen' a long way.
When the progressive message gets out and tested despite the media, people will wise up.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 05:47 PM
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17. "- A healthy respect for reasoned discourse, facts, logic, and rational debate."
You say you were reading DU?????

:spray:




:hide:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 06:13 PM
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18. Lol... that's why I said "among".
I promise not to accuse you of anything.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 06:50 PM
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19. why, democrat of course
that's what you be. :)

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 10:30 PM
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20. If I had an extra heart to give, you'd get it.
It's a rare person who can actually change his or her mind, admit it, and act upon it. You have gained my admiration (which isn't much, but it's all I can give at the moment other than a k&r).

:patriot:

Read the following. You'll enjoy it.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:15 AM
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21. Thanks for the link.
I was never really very dedicated as a Republican, it was just something I was 'supposed' to be. The 90's were when I started taking a serious look at things and came to the conclusion that there was something wrong with the 'right'.

Thanks, but you can have one on me instead. ;)
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:09 PM
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22. Thanks.
Glad you liked the essay.

:toast:

-Laelth
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