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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:44 AM
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How the Octopus used toxic real-estate paper to launder money
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5156948/The-Pegasus-File

and you wonder where the yellow went.....

save this before it disappears.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:04 PM
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1. Why the name Pegasus?

http://www.premierhummer.com/mobil-oil-socony.html
In 1911 a Supreme Court ruling broke up John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil Trust into several separate companies. The newly independent Vacuum Oil Company registered a white Pegasus as a trademark in South Africa. In 1920 the Standard Oil Company of New York (SOCONY) used a red Pegasus to promote its fuels in Japan and Indonesia. When the two companies merged in 1931 to form the Socony-Vacuum Corporation, a newly redesigned red Pegasus was adopted as a world-wide trademark
Now they're one happy family again, known as exxon.

Condasleeza's old digs.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:34 PM
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21. Inner Temple, Inns of Court: bottom left
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 06:59 PM
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28. Upper right
Knights of St. John,Rhodes and Malta.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 07:06 PM
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29. Lower Right:
http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp/keyword.griffin/qx/symbolism_details.htm

The griffin is a mythical creature, with the head, wings and talons of an eagle and the body and hind legs of a lion. It is thus composed of the most royal of the birds and the beasts. The griffin was thought to find and guard mines of gold and hidden treasures. It is a principal device in heraldry, signifying valor, strength, vigilance, and perseverance. The symbolism of the griffin was described by Alexander Nisbet in his System of Heraldry (1722) translated from Latin as: "The griffin represents wisdom joined to fortitude, but wisdom should lead, and fortitude follow." A distinctive feature of the griffin is that it has ears, which are large and stand up from its head. This is the only feature that differentiates a griffin's head from an eagle's. The griffin can be found in all the heraldic positions (segreant, passant, sejant etc.). A male griffin, for some reason, does not have wings; instead it is adorned with spikes at various points. The male griffin is a much rarer heraldic charge than the winged female.

In the middle ages hybrids such as this one were assumed to be possible and to actually exist, just as a mule, which is a cross between a horse and a donkey, existed. It then followed logically that as mules were unable to reproduce, neither would the griffin. This explained why griffins were so rare and hardly ever seen.

Note the crown.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 07:25 PM
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30. Inner Temple FAQ:
"In the middle of the 12th century, the Military Order of the Knights Templar built a fine round church by the Thames, which became known as the Temple Church. Two centuries later, after the abolition of the Order in 1312, lawyers came to occupy the Temple site and buildings. They formed themselves into two societies, the Inner Temple and Middle Temple, first mentioned by name in a manuscript yearbook of 1388. Interestingly, the area on the edge of the site, known as the Outer Temple, did not house a separate legal society."

http://www.innertemple.org.uk/IT_brief_history.html

Knights Of Malta/Red cross/top right = Middle Temple.

Griffin bottom right = Gray's Inn. Griffin top left = Lincoln's Inn.
What's the significance of the crown?

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 10:26 PM
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36. Lord Treasurer (protector of the Treasury)
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:13 AM
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38. ? I'm not getting the connection?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:35 AM
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41. The griffin and crown
emblem of the Lord Treasurer
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 07:37 PM
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31. Inner Temple
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 07:38 PM by DrDebug
Inner Temple is one of the two remaining temples of the Knights Templars of England.


Temple Church, London
The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon was endorsed by the Vatican in 1129, hwoever they became very powerful and were disbanded and outlawed in 1312 by Pope Clement V.

Officially this meant the end of the Knight Templars, however they were invited to Scotland by King William the Lion. The current king at the time, Robert de Brus of Scotland, was excommunicated by the Pope, so he didn't care that much about the Vatican's wishes and allowed the Knights Templars to settle in Scotland and go underground. Did you know that King Robert de Brus invented the world's first Intelligence Agency as well?

The Knight Templars later reemerged under a different name: Scottish Rite Freemasonry and started at the Lodge of Edinburgh, Mary's Chapel No.1 and have conquered the world ever since and even had some splits like the Lodge d'Orient.

Nevertheless the Temple in London is still their center of the universe, because it is the only remaining and signifies the law nowadays.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 08:35 PM
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32. Robert de brus = robert the bruce? do you have more info on the intelligence thing?
i got interested in this stuff while tracing the geneology of the forbes family from the us back to scotland. very early masons in scotland & lots of other suggestive stuff, i.e. hints of the intelligence aspects you mention. not to mention how well-connected they remain down through over 300 years.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 08:45 PM
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33. Not that much is known about his agency
It was briefly mentioned in the Bruce Trilogy, and that it could be considered the first modern Intelligence Agency and it's main function was the War of Independence, because Robert wanted to become independent from England and rule his country all by himself and used an intelligence agency to know what the English where up to.

Many geneologies can be traced back to Robert de Brus and King William the Lion who in turn can be traced back to Charlemagne. The Charlemagne bloodline is very important in freemasonry, because it is the royal lineage of the man who conquered Rome and managed to subjugate most of Europe. In fact George W. Bush was a descendent from Robert de Brus. Just like Queen Elizabeth II and they say that most Presidents, royalty can be traced to that Scottish line.

The name tends to change. Robert the Bruce, Robert a Bruys, because there was no consistent spelling back then...
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:15 AM
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39. thanks!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 10:09 PM
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34. The Templars were outlawed in England
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 10:22 PM by formercia
There is little to suggest that there is any connection between the Knights Templar and any current organization that uses that name.
The Knights of St. John were given the properties of the Knights Templar. Their heavy-handed rule was one of the leading caused of the Peasants' Revolt in England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasants%27_Revolt

The last stronghold of the Templars in Europe was in LaRochelle France, where the remaining Knights protected Jews and Hugenots from the Inquisition. Larochelle was finally captured in the late 17th Century and the few surviving Knights escaped by sea. Port Royal in Nova Scotia was the last stand until captured by the British and the remaining French that didn't escape were deported to Louisiana and elswhere.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Royal,_Nova_Scotia
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:10 AM
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37. Weird, I'm doing a geneology right now r/t Forbes & right before your post i looked up this:
Jame BAUDOIN b. 1676 La Rochelle FR + Hannah PORTAGE
/
James BOWDOIN b. 1726 (Gov. Massachussets) + Elizabeth IRVING
/
Elizabeth BOWDOIN (b. 1769) + Sir John TEMPLE (8th BT, Consul General NY)
/
Elizabeth Bowdoin TEMPLE (1769 MA) + Thomas Lindall WINTHROP
/
winthrop + cabot blanchard
/
winthrop + mason
/
winthrop + jf kerry's grandfather james g. forbes, b. shanghai 1879
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:42 AM
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42. Jame BAUDOIN b. 1676 La Rochelle FR
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 08:32 AM by formercia
Born in La Rochelle and probably escaped the siege of LaRochelle, came to New England and had a son James in 1726.
Many of the deportees from Acadia were sent to the Massachusetts colony. It may be how Jame Baudoin arrived in New England.

Both sides of my family came form LaRochelle. One of my mothers ancestors was the commandant of Port Royal. He wasn't a Knight Templar. The Knights took vows of poverty, chastity and obedience, similar to those taken by monastic orders. One difference was that books were not allowed, so they were essentially illiterate and studied only the art of War. They vowed never to surrender in battle and since they had no heirs, their blood line died with them in battle.

To the monarchies of Europe, they were dangerous and had to be eliminated for the sowed the seeds of revolution against the old order. The Peasant Revolt in England was the beginning of the fight.

Here lies the connection between Freemasonry and the American Revolution against England. When the English deported the troublemakers from Acadia to the American Colonies, they scattered the seeds of Revolution.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 11:33 AM
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45. Chip Tatum, the video:
Hear the man speak for himself:

http://www.google.com/search?q=chip+tatum
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:07 PM
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2. It doesn't work.
In both Firefox and IE all I see is a gray square in the scribd frame. Trying to download it also doesn't work. Why do people use these weird formats instead of simple text or pdf? :shrug:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:09 PM
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3. It works on my Mac.
I tried to save it as a .pdf and get a blank. It must be some copy-protection scheme.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:16 PM
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4. I also can't download it.
If I try to download it, the "Loading" image just sits there forever.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:29 PM
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5. Someone doesn't like you
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 12:31 PM by formercia
If it is a copy protection scheme, bypassing it would be a crime.

It's well worth reading. Try accessing it via another computer. My UNIX box complains, says I don't have the latest FLASH player. Try getting a newer version.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:36 PM
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6. I have the latest flash player
and I don't have a bunch of different computers lying around. I guess I can't read it. :shrug:
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:49 PM
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7. Email it to yourself
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:57 PM
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8. All that does is send a link to the page, which I can't read.
Actually, it sends it 3 times. :eyes:
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:15 PM
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9. Were YOU able to download it?
plz check your PM.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:31 PM
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10. Of course
Sign up for an account. All you need is an email address and password.

download the document as .pdf

I saved it as pegasus.pdf to make it easier to read. You can save it as .txt but it's unformatted and difficult to read.

I can now read it on my Unix box as well.

I used Firefox 3. Firefox 2 might not work as well. There is a download button right above the document window that I can't read either on this machine but the downloaded .pdf worked well.

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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:49 PM
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18. I had no prob in Firefox
Was able to open/view and download as a pdf (though had to register first).
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:50 PM
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11. After rebooting my machine
I was able to download a PDF version in IE. It still doesn't work in FF and it still doesn't display on the webpage in IE.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:09 PM
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12. My wife's Windoze machine
I could read it but not download it.

Time to wipe it clean and start from scratch.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:32 PM
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13. Interesting yarn.
But I have difficulty finding it credible. I got as far as the scopolamine incident. In all respect, the claim that scopolamine causes total obedience, even to the point of engaging in cannibalism, is just too unbelievable.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:37 PM
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14. I know for a fact that drugs are used to make compromising videos
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 03:08 PM by formercia
I was attacked with a chemical agent and my erratic behavior was videotaped and used in an attempt to compromise me.

I don't know about Scopolamine, but the technique is 100% valid.

The CIA worked closely with pharmaceutical companies researching drugs that could be used for this type of activity. He may have been told it was Scopolamine but it may have been something totally different.

We used to play pranks on the Delta Team(JSOC) members on a regular basis. I could tell you some that I was involved with that were pretty funny. The believed just about anything we told them. These operators are not chosen for their intellectual ability. Anyone who would question orders or training instruction is not going to be chosen for that kind of work.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:00 PM
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15. Colby was spooked.
"The Latin American drug cartels have stretched their tentacles much deeper into our lives than most people believe." It's possible they are calling the shots at all levels of govenment." -- William Colby, former Director CIA.

SOURCE: "Under the Influence" by Preston Peate

A short time later, Colby had an unfortunate boating accident.

Drugs And The Bogus 'War Against Terrorism'
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:21 PM
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16. It's difficult to sort out the fact from disinformation
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 03:23 PM by formercia
Even I had problems with a few points in the article. Disinformation is purposely salted into factual articles to disallow their use in court. One has to look at the whole picture and look for patterns of behavior within the social networks that encompass criminal activity in society as a whole.

People involved are always fed disinformation, for various reasons, one being for times like these, when people try to put the whole puzzle together.

I'm glad you stopped in to add some more flesh to the carcass. :hi:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:46 PM
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17. The Octopus in the Cathedral of Salt
As you know, my Friend, dis- and mis-information are tradecraft. And when it comes to self-funding operations, there's self-funding and then there's self-funding.

On the origins of The Octopus, more food for thought -- literally and figuratively:



The Octopus in the Cathedral of Salt

Phillip Robertson

Colombia, June–August 2007

When the trumpet sounded,
everything was prepared on earth,
and Jehovah divided the world
among Coca-Cola Inc., Anaconda,
Ford Motors, and other corporations:
The United Fruit Company Inc.
reserved for itself the juiciest piece,
the central coast of my own land,
the sweet waist of America.
—Pablo Neruda, “The United Fruit Co.”


SNIP...

Americans did not always eat bananas. In fact, the tropical staple only came to the nation’s table through an act of desperation by a Brooklyn railroad speculator named Minor Keith. In 1871, Keith went into business with his uncle, Henry Meiggs, to build a railway from the Costa Rican capital, San José, to the port city of Limón. It was, by all accounts, a miserable undertaking. Italian workers mutinied over the conditions, and inmates from Louisiana prisons were brought in when no one else would do the job. Most of them died—as many as five thousand—trying to complete Meiggs and Keith’s project, an enterprise that was already unpopular and strangled by debt when it finally reached completion in 1890.

Not longer after the railway began operations, it quickly demonstrated itself to be a losing proposition for passenger transport, but Keith wasn’t ready to give up. During the construction of the railway he had started planting banana groves—to feed his workers—on government-ceded land near the tracks, so he decided to try his hand at the export business. He moved his trackside bananas to the port at Limón for free—he already owned the train—and freighters sailed with the fruit to the United States, where Keith sold it for a hefty profit. Soon, his banana gamble was worth more than the railroad. In 1899, on the eve of the twentieth century, Minor Keith merged his United Fruit with Boston Fruit, famous for its giant fleet of white ships, and “the octopus”—as the company is known among Latin American journalists—was born.

Soon its tentacles reached into the governments of Guatemala, Honduras, Panama, and Costa Rica, and manipulated the political establishment whenever its interests were threatened. And the company, with its acquisitive genius, kept branching out into new enterprises whenever the need arose. In 1901, United Fruit took over the postal system in Guatemala, and in a number of other countries it controlled the railway systems and the telegraph lines. A CIA-engineered coup codenamed Operation PBSUCCESS overthrew Guatemala’s elected president in 1954, when United Fruit’s business interests were threatened by new land-reform laws. The company wielded unprecedented power in Latin America, growing into a transnational entity whose appetite for resources drove the politics of the entire region.

SNIP...

In 1963, United Fruit found what it was looking for in Urabá, a long-neglected but well-watered Caribbean region of Antioquia, Colombia, closer to Panama than Santa Marta. It was perfect. In the nearby fishing village of Turbo, United Fruit then repeated its well-worn and successful pattern. The company found an underdeveloped stretch of coastline, offered to build a port and bring in jobs in exchange for export concessions, then hung on as long as possible in the face of violent uprisings and popular discontent. What they tried desperately to avoid was the labor unrest that set them back in Santa Marta in the early part of the century. To get around it, United Fruit created an entirely new system of production. It was brilliant; they would create a virtual banana operation.

The big innovation was simple—the company wouldn’t own land at all. If United Fruit owned land, the workers would agitate against them. Instead, Colombian growers would own it and sell their entire crops to the company as contractors. United Fruit put ads in the paper looking for investors and got people who had never worked on a farm in their lives. Dentists and doctors suddenly became ranchers in Urabá. It was a gold rush for cheap land and the promise of big profits with the octopus. To get the growers started in business, the company handed out big development loans to the new arrivals from Medellín who proved they could cultivate bananas. With the loans and the contracts, the company locked the growers into an exclusive arrangement, and for the next five years, 100 percent of everything grown in Urabá went out on United Fruit freighters at the price the company set. Meanwhile, another conservative government in Bogotá promised to hunt down leftist dissenters and hold back the tide of Communism in the hemisphere, a crackdown that would have terrible consequences for the country. In 1966, three years after United Fruit arrived in Urabá, a group of liberal intellectuals that the government had been chasing across the country founded the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), and Colombia plunged headlong into forty years of civil war.

SNIP...

The crew of the Nelson had gathered by the railing to watch Garcia, all of them wearing the same grease-stained blue coveralls. They did not wave or make any gesture of greeting. If we could have yelled out questions over the water, they could have explained that they were carrying fruit in refrigerated holds like all the other freighters in the Gulf of Urabá. A longtime member of her crew might have also told us that the Nelson had not always been the Nelson, but had changed her name from the Chiquita Jean when, in 2003, Chiquita Brands sold her back to a Norwegian shipping company along with the rest of its entire fleet. In fact, from the moment of her birth in the Norwegian yards in 1992 until 2003, the ship was a Chiquita freighter, designed to keep the fruit in perfect condition on its long voyage over the oceans. The captain said, “Sometimes they put the drugs on the banana boats.” I was stunned. I had been under the impression that drug traffickers only used small fast boats to move cocaine from place to place, but this isn’t true. The freighters are difficult to search and blend into normal shipping traffic—because that is exactly what they are. They can also haul a ton at a time if the kilo bricks are well hidden.

* * * *

In the late eighties, the ancestor of the AUC began as an extreme right-wing confederation of armed bands—largely funded by cocaine trafficking—that fought the FARC across large regions of Colombia. Naturally, their political interests were allied with the Colombian government, which also wanted to destroy the FARC—but, unlike the army, the AUC could operate without restrictions. In the space of a few short years, the AUC would be responsible for the vast majority of political killings in the country, and the group’s leaders would boast that a significant percentage of the nation’s legislators were under their direct control. From 2000 to the end of 2002, there were at least 11,500 political killings in Colombia, most of which the AUC committed. It was a long-running human rights nightmare.

In 1997, shortly after the AUC arrived in Urabá, it began to consolidate power through a series of massacres and assassinations intended to drive out the FARC, which had organized in the banana fields. Swept up in the paramilitary net were civilians who had no connection to any armed groups. A large number of villagers and workers were summarily executed after being tortured or fingered as sympathetic to the FARC. Many of the killings took place around river towns. AUC gunmen would arrive, assemble the villagers in a central place and begin to interrogate them. Often, they were killed regardless of their answers. Establishing guilt in this system is just a pretext for widespread murder. It was a tremendous success. Eventually, the AUC controlled the entire banana-growing region of Urabá, any leftist agitators were in hiding, and the AUC had access to the Chiquita port. They controlled it, but the commanders were still engaged in a brutal fight for control of the banana and coca fields. They faced a serious logistics problem. The paramilitary group was winning, but it badly needed war material to expand its influence.

On November 5, 2001, four years after the AUC arrived in Urabá, a mysterious shipment of thousands of AK-47 assault rifles and millions of rounds of ammunition arrived at the Chiquita docks, a lethal cargo that went directly to the AUC commanders. Aside from an Organization of American States (OAS) report that focused on the two Israeli arms dealers who arranged the deal from Guatemala and Panama, there have been few details to emerge about how the weapons were handled on the Colombian side. It is also true that people directly associated with the shipment have had a tendency to disappear. The Mexican captain of the Otterloo, Jesús Iturrios Maciél, sailed with the ship on November 9 to Barranquilla and then vanished. The shipping company that owned the Otterloo closed its offices in Panama a few days after news of the weapons broke in a Colombian newspaper. The information in the OAS report suggests that someone formed the company just to deliver the weapons to the AUC.

In a front-page deal reached with the US government this year, Chiquita pleaded guilty to making millions of dollars in payments to a group on the State Department list of foreign terrorist organizations: the AUC. Lawyers for the company argued that they were forced into the making payments out of fear for the safety of its workers. Chiquita also admitted that they had a similar arrangement with the FARC. The result of the plea deal was a $25 million fine for a business that earned $3.9 billion in revenue in 2006, and there were no charges filed over the weapons shipment. It is not surprising that Chiquita Brands was forced to make protection payments to armed groups operating around their plantations, but that is not the entire story.

In March 2007, Chiquita told CNN that the weapons shipment and the protection payments to the paramilitaries were unrelated. This may well be true—the weapons shipments to the AUC were connected to a dark series of events at the company’s port. The Colombian government cast doubt on the company’s claims of being the victim of extortion by the AUC. Mario Iguarán, the Colombian attorney general, said, “It was a criminal relationship: money and arms for the bloody pacification of Urabá.”

CONTINUED...

http://www.vqronline.org/articles/2007/fall/robertson-octopus-cathedral-salt/



Carcass is right. Gen. Smedley D. Butler made us acutely aware of exactly how United Fruit was one of the Dulles Brothers' old haunts. Heh heh.

Here's something that's true, no matter the spin: Your country really appreciates you standing up to these interests, formercia.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:20 PM
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20. They will get me eventually
but I will not go quietly.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:37 PM
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22. Fraud probe into UK firm role in collapse of world's largest insurer AIG
There's more than one way to launder loot, which makes me wonder why all these top executives seem so...so...conservative.



Fraud probe into UK firm's role in collapse of world's largest insurer AIG

By Arthur Martin and Ben Laurance
London Daily Mail
Last updated at 11:50 PM on 12th February 2009

A fraud investigation was launched last night into a UK firm’s alleged criminal involvement in the multi-billion-pound collapse of the world’s largest insurer.

The probe by the Serious Fraud Office into AIG Financial Products will focus on those with ‘inside knowledge’ of the collapse.

Investigators will try to establish how it lost almost £8billion and brought its American parent, AIG, to its knees.

The downfall of AIG, now 80 per cent owned by the U.S. government, was one of the pivotal events in the start of the global financial crisis.

The company was forced to seek £59billion ($85billion) in emergency credit from the Federal Reserve.

CONTINUED...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1143740/Fraud-probe-UK-firms-role-collapse-worlds-largest-insurer-AIG.html



Gee. When will Uncle Sam open a fraud investigation of the Wall Street banksters? Never? Ever? No-how?

Most importantly: You're welcome here, former-san. Detroit can re-open the Underground Railroad. Truth is, the neighborhood has more than a couple of ex-fellahs.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:44 PM
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23. Thank you
It's always good to know there's a welcome chalk mark on the lamp post. :)
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:33 AM
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40. What a small world
Eric Holder, our new Attorney General, defended Chiquita Brands and their criminal enterprise.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:46 AM
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44. The magic kingdom
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 10:48 AM by formercia

Illusion and fantasy its trademark.

"It's a small World after all."
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:10 PM
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19. K & R'ing in memory of Danny Casolero... n/t
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 05:13 PM
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24. I knew this crap happened, but it's different reading it.
I do fear my government and I shouldn't. Crap.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 06:04 PM
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25. Very interesting
I wonder whether the current crisis is also related to something similar, because it was AIG (AIG also laundered Iran-contra cocaine money) which collapsed first under the weight of toxic CDS and the whole economy crashed.

Something else which struck my eye:

Tatum says that, in 1992, President Bush instructed him to "neutralise" presidential-runner Ross Perot, but he refused to do so (...)
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shanine Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 06:16 PM
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26. K & R
;-)
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 06:58 PM
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27. Back in the late '90s, Chuck Harder had some of these people on his radio show
They all corroborated what Tatum is saying. I heard William Cooper (Commander of the Pacific Fleet in early 70's, & author of "A Pale Horse"...good read...who was killed mysteriously a few years ago) on there & immediately knew he was telling the truth. He speaks of being involved w/the Iran Contra mess & them being ambushed...barely getting out alive; he references the "pilot" on that mission, but not by name; must have been Tatum. It just rang true with me.

I know Lasater was on the show many times talking about Mena.
Some of this is not good news for Dems.

Did any of you hear this then?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 10:12 PM
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35. K & R
Still shaking head.
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shanine Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:56 AM
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43. k
(already recommended)

Lots of interesting reads on that site, Thank you!!
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 03:26 PM
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46. That is one of the most disturbing documents I have ever read
I'm shaking as I type this. :scared: Recommendd.
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