The Fecefication of America ... is it in the end game?

[Stinky The Clown]

For 28 years, they have worked to fecefy the country .... in other words, to turn the country to shit.

It is now very bad out there. For the last eight years, they bled every dollar they possibly could from us.

Twenty Eight Years.

They just may have succeeded.

[davidwparker]

1. If we do eventually become the North American Union, then yes, it was

part of the plan.

[spin]

2. Before we do become the North American union we have to have a total financial colapse...

Sure looks like we are well on the way.

[Deja Q]

6. Didn't Snopes debunk that?

Also, are Europeans in the EU suffering?

[davidwparker]

8. Don't know about Snopes. The only suffering in the EU that I've heard about

was ingesting a lot of our bad debt due to relaxed mortgage rules and theft.

[ThomWV]

13. At its root do you understand what argument you are advancing?

I find your comment funny. Ask yourself this one fundamental question, how do we differ from Canada? What interest do we not share? What about our defense or prosperity is not common? How do our histories vary? And between the answers to each of these questions can you divine just what argument you advance with your comment?

[blues90]

3. This is not america at all anymore, not at all.

Perhaps it's been an illusion for my entire 60 years when I really look back.

DDE/Ike tried to warn us all of what was to come if we stayed in that mad mindset yet we ignored it all. Yet the people bought into this idea of camelot. It was not real. There was North woods , that was real.

Johnson even though at the time I did not trust of like him much yet he finally realized that Vietnam was a civil war yet then Nixon got in a carried this out to a bad end even though he did do a few good things.

Skip past Ford and here came Carter who was handed quite a task but was bashed as the peanut farmer so it was Reagan and people seemed so willing to buy into a hollywood name who should have never been president but thought this insane charm he was able to tear down every fiber of this country and dismantle it to a point of the beginning of no return while HW was running things in the background , a man many knew little about and rarely saw but he wins and read my lips no new taxes and an attack on Iraq brought on burning oil fields and shot down rag tag Iraqi troops running for their lives.

Then Clinton which with all that has been said and done was constantly bashed and blamed yet I don't recall Clinton ever on vacation or relaxing , just working and asking for line item veto and if he got that we may have really pulled out of this mess for the most part. People seem to forget he was working against a republican majority in 1994. Yes he made mistakes but things could have been different and better if he had an even break. But he was a working president.

Then GW come along and wrings the life that was left out of everything , shredded everything into ruin yet we allowed it as many were frightened fools when 70% wanted to turn Iraq into glass. We did nothing nor did the Dems to stop him , no we all played a part in enabling him and the BCF.

America has always been a fake illusion because behind the scenes we raped for resource and killed for power yet american took this and stored it as a way of life and few ever looked at the reality or ever questioned it.

Now we are in this new wave of illusion and I say this because of what I've seen and because of my age and knowing all my life we were lied to without conscience. You get nothing from nothing and at a time when we are on the tipping point of no return even if we payed back the karma and apologized to the world we are not america who once had at least been a nation who was admired and had a work force who took pride in what we did yet we were willing to toss it all away and kill and murder once again and toss the support of the world right in their faces and as a result are now hated beyond words.

I don't think it's the time to worship a president or continue with these sorts of ideals and to put it mildly, tradition.

WE have let the kite go by the string and better find another way without the mass admiration and tradition of any leader and all find an even level of relevance or we will surely go over that cliff and crash into dust where everyone hits the bottom.

If we were really a nation of ideas and pride and looked at the future and for the good we would have never reached this point in time in the first place. Everyone has to do some soul searching and drop the idea of one person is better than the other or that other countries should follow what we believe in. We have failed as a nation because instead of looking within ourselves for the answers we look to a president to save us all and then once again build the plateform of admiration as Kings and Queens and an empire.

[Pharaoh]

4. K&R

[trof]

12. My sentiments exactly, and you should make this an OP.

The american history I was 'taught' in school was pretty much a fable.
Sign me:
"67, and disillusioned"

[stuntcat]

5. every day I'm seeing people acting PROUD of how stupid and backwards they are.

apparently it's the kinda mass psychosis that builds it's own momentum? :patriot:

We use the most resources.. control the most weapons.. I smell a circus coming on :party:

[arcadian]

7. I was in the library the other day and over heard this conversation between two kids.

Girl sitting at computer: "Is that the part you need for your car? Are you gonna get it?"

Young male: "Naa, I can't afford it and don't get paid until Friday."

Girl: "Well, there it is, we can print this out so you can study it and then when you get it you will be able to install it."

Young male with contempt: "Study it? No. Get it and just do it."


The young man was acting like studying something was absolutely not an option. I saw it as part of the whole anti-intellectualism that has plagued our country for 8 years. We are surrounded by idiots where "studying" is not an options.

[spin]

9. It's just a man thing...

men don't like to study instructions or ask directions. Which often explains why they screw things up and end up lost.

I should reveal that I am a male. Therefore, I suffer from the same problem. Years of frustrating experience has taught me to read instructions, but I still hate to ask for directions. Fortunately, modern technology has come to my aid.

[lunatica]

11. LOL! Technology invented by people just like you!

It's a self fulfilling circular revolving door logic. I have it. I'm actually an incredibly lazy person because I like having 'free' time where I don't have to do a single damn thing I don't like to do. So I learned to be really well organized and efficient so I can do my work well the first time and very quickly so I can have lots of time to be lazy.

How's that for being not only lazy, but creatively lazy so I can be even more lazy?!

And yes, modern technology is a true blessing to the lazy everywhere. Why even bother to learn how to spell when you can do a quick spell check? Now that's a blessing! Think of all the time it saves to free us up to be lazy.

[spin]

15. Walter Chrysler, the founder of Chrysler Corp. would have liked you...

Whenever there is a hard job to be done, I assign it to a lazy man; he is sure to find an easy way of doing it.
- Walter Chrysler

[arcadian]

14. No, I have seen this before with kids of this age.

They have nothing but contempt for school, studying, and anything cerebral. I'm male as well, and I study a lot of things and read instructions.

[GeorgeGist]

10. capitalism is starving ...

the human species to death.

Obama is leading the charge but not fast enough for the right-wing capitalists.