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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:22 PM
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One Hundred Billion Planets like Earth....in our galaxy alone.
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 03:23 PM by Stuart G
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7891132.stm


Hit the above link to see the story.
Now about the the aliens on those planets.
.....yes they are there.
But why would they want to visit us?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:23 PM
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1. We need to track down which ones we can borrow money from, stat! n/t
PB
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:24 PM
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3. What kind of collateral can we offer? nt
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:31 PM
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14. ROFL
ahhhh, it's posts like yours that make me miss the DUzies, I'd be all over sending this link

:rofl:
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:24 PM
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2. Exactly.
Intelligent life would look at us and go, "damn - they're fucked!"
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:24 PM
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4. possibly thousands of intelligent civilizations out there,
and we're the one that invents talk radio. Jeez.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:25 PM
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5. They'd probably only want to visit planets with intelligent life forms.
Alas, given our short and bloody history, we've probably been disqualified from consideration.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:27 PM
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6. Maybe as a reminder of how bad we are...they left us...
Rush Limbaugh..:bounce: :bounce:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:31 PM
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12. The ultimate booby prize.
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:31 PM
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13. We haven't even got a PanGalactic Gargle Blaster.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:27 PM
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7. Do they need some republicans to eat?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:28 PM
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8. the aliens are already here
here's one!
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:28 PM
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9. Discovery of extraterrestrial life would really piss off organized religion
Might not be in good way though, that guy in Contact was dangerously crazed.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:34 PM
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15. If there was irrefutable proof of intelligent life on other planets -
and/or that they had visited Earth, it would cause a crisis of gigantic proportion among Christians; especially those who take the bible literally. Other religions would have issues too. People would go crazy.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:47 PM
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19. Not the Rastafarians.
Or the Pastafarians, either.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:49 PM
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22. ROFL!
Very Nice! :toast:
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:28 PM
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10. We need to find one that's peaceful.......
...and send Bush and Cheney there! They wouldn't know what to do!
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zagging Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:29 PM
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11. Great, and I got stuck on this one.
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 03:30 PM by zagging
I wonder if one of them needs an interstellar H1-B?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:38 PM
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16. Do they have oil?
:evilgrin:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:44 PM
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17. They won't visit...
Like us, they're all arguing about whether or not there is intelligent life on other planets. Besides, Xhnnr, only son of Rwnw, is enough for them, or should be. What need to go to other planets, since the end is coming soon, and they'll be taken up in the Rapture?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:46 PM
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18. Why Wouldn't They?
It is common wisdom that any civilization intelligent enough to do so would have the desire to learn and explore. Of course they would study us if they could.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:47 PM
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20. Hell.. Sagan told me that years ago....
"Billions and Billions"...

I miss you, Carl.
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remoulade Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:48 PM
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21. To Serve Man
:evilgrin:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:55 PM
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23. Was he talking about Republicans?
"Dr Alan Boss of the Carnegie Institution of Science said many of these worlds could be inhabited by simple lifeforms."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7891132.stm
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:57 PM
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24. Oh, goody! Let's go plunder and ruin them, too!!!
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:12 PM
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25. Shhhhh! I wonder what the creationists would say about this? nt
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:14 PM
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26. Hmmmmm.....I thought Klaatu said they were scarce....
;)
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:22 PM
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27. Intelligent life is probably rare though and like flashbulbs in a stadium
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 04:22 PM by cobalt1999
Short lived so at any one point in time, few exist.

They definitely aren't visiting Earth and probing our anuses.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:26 PM
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29. "They definitely aren't visiting Earth and probing our anuses."
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 04:28 PM by JVS
They could just be super advanced but also morally degenerate.

"Hey Bralix, what do you want to do this evening?"

"The usual, let's go find some other life forms and stick stuff in their asses"
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 05:22 PM
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31. Now that's scary. Advanced AND morally degenerate.
"The usual, let's go find some other life forms and stick stuff in their asses" :rofl:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:23 PM
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28. Okay. My mind is officially blown now.
:hippie:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:30 PM
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30. My favorite kind of science. "Wishful-thinking-as-theory."
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 04:30 PM by lumberjack_jeff
So far, telescopes have been able to detect just over 300 planets outside our Solar System.

Very few of these would be capable of supporting life, however. Most are gas giants like our Jupiter; and many orbit so close to their parent stars that any microbes would have to survive roasting temperatures.

But, based on the limited numbers of planets found so far, Dr Boss has estimated that each Sun-like star has on average one "Earth-like" planet.

This simple calculation means there would be huge numbers capable of supporting life.


My bedroom contains pillows and dirty laundry and dozens of dust bunnies. Simply taking a calculation from these observations yield the estimate that my room contains.a million dollars. The fact that I've never found a single dollar is irrelevant... I'm just not looking carefully enough.

"Every star has an earthlike planet"? Riiight.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 05:36 PM
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32. "Every SUN-LIKE star has on ON AVERAGE on Earthlike planet"
Not that I necesssarily disagree with you, just pointing out bad quote.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 05:36 PM
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33. Well, there was one point missing from these statements, and it is that giant
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 05:37 PM by Peace Patriot
gaseous planets are the easiest to detect, so the high number of gaseous planets in the 300 that scientists have so far detected is not an accurate gauge of the number of rocky, earth-like planets that may exist in the galaxy. I don't know how this current stat was calculated (approx. 1 per solar system) but I think we can be sure that it wasn't a mere guess (or, as you say, "wishful thinking"). I believe it was at least partly based on the surprising number of planets detected, as soon as scientists had the technology to detect them. I think scientists were rather flabbergasted by it--finding more planets wherever they looked--as they were by the number of moons and rings in our solar system, and, above all, by the properties of some of the moons (such as volcanoes).

I don't know why you're so skeptical. And your analogy isn't a very good one. If you found $300 in your room, say, hidden under a floorboard, wouldn't you be inclined to rip the place apart looking for more--especially if you had reason to believe that bank robbers had stashed a big heist there? These scientists are not talking about dust bunnies being extrapolated into a million dollars. They are talking 300 known planets being extrapolated into many more planets.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:04 PM
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35. It isn't about skepticism, it's about lousy science articles
The whole thrust of the article was to highlight one potential result of research that hasn't happened yet. As one person above pointed out, there's very little in that article that wasn't made widely known years ago by Carl Sagan and others. Even if advances over the last decade let us refine the Drake equation more than Sagan would have dreamed possible so soon, there are still so many unknowns that the sort of breathless speculation about the number of earth-like planets in the article is grossly premature.

For at least the last few decades planetary science has advanced in fits and spurts: people hit the limit of what can actually be observed, and start speculating on details beyond that, like reaching for something that's just out of your reach and you're just scraping it with your fingertips. Then BANG, there's some advance: a new technique, a new technology, maybe a probe we've sent has arrived, and there's a flood of new useful data. The things that used to be speculated about drop away because we now are in a position to know, and the frontier of speculation is pushed to the edge of whatever the advance was.

What we've thought about Mars, about Jupiter and its moons, about all the outer planets, and now other solar systems, has followed this pattern. So before we write headlines about how many earth-like planets there are in the galaxy, now that we're hitting the edge of being able to detect them, hows about we wait for some of the data to come in and report about what we're actually finding, not just one potential outcome.

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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:13 PM
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38. But I haven't found any "dollars"
I have no doubt that the galaxy contains many rocky planets, and I suspect that in time, astronomers will be able to detect them. I also don't doubt that many of those are within liquid water range. Some of those are probably orbiting stars which are large enough that the planets are not tide-locked.

To predict that there are as many "earth-like" planets as there are stars is the worst kind of wild-ass guess.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 08:26 PM
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34. Can we send the Repukes there?
Of course, they'd be much more at home on Uranus.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:06 PM
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36. so DC Comics was right all along!
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:09 PM
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37. They visit cause they like to laugh
If I were an alien I know I would laugh at us.
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