Liberals living in conservative hell hole towns...how do you cope?

[cherish44]

I honestly can't even stand to go out anymore, I get so tired of all the Obama bashing and ignorance, not to mention racism, gay bashing and bible thumping. Moving isn't an option right now unfortunately.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

1. Have you checked Meetup in your area?

You might find some progressive groups to join. Any volunteer opportunities to surround yourself with lefties?

[rockymountaindem]

2. Last time I was home in Colorado Springs for winter break, there were way more Obama stickers

than McCain ones, including on various cars sporting Air Force and Army plate frames etc. So to be honest, I was feeling kinda psyched at that point :)

[seabeyond]

45. i see colo and even colo springs as my escape place from it all, lol. n/t

[Hawkeye-X]

56. Yeah, and the FotF needs to be on the outs...

And ridding of the Ronald Reagan Highway signs on the El Paso County borders needs to be done .

Oh yes, and tax the eff out of FotF morons. Let Dobson preach his hate elsewhere.

Hawkeye-X

[aikoaiko]

3. I eat lots of BBQ.

spare ribs to be precise.

[Skittles]

4. easy - I fucking torment them

I swear it is my destiny

[cherish44]

38. My dad does that

He lives in the same town. He's a Democrat, not really a liberal but he loves to rile up the good 'ol boys down at the coffee shop from time to time. During the Blagojevich thing, there was loudmouth Repub handing out postcards to demand Blago's impeachment. You had to check yes or no whether he should be impeached...my dad went up to the guy organizing this (local guy) and said "Here you didn't take mine..." The guy looked at his card and said "This son of a bitch checked NO!" and ripped it up! I wish I had been there to see that.

[Skittles]

39. I AM DIGGING ON YOUR DAD I TELL YOU

THAT IS MY KIND OF MAN!!!!! :D

[w8liftinglady]

5. well-I speak out,believe it or not.

I am well known on the editorial pages of my local paper.And,yes,I have been maligned on those pages many,many times.I feel it is critical to at least try and present the progressive viewpoint.Some people actually LISTEN,as is evidenced by an increase from 25% to 45% in Democratic voters last election(not that I'm taking credit for that)
I don't know if you saw my post earlier today,but it can get ugly
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5058200&mesg_id=5058200

[doc03]

6. I avoid morning coffee at the local hangout, I can't

argue with them I am outnumbered 10 to 1.

[old mark]

7. Used to be pretty bad here, but I stopped reading the

local "news" papers, and don't really go anywhere I can get into a political discussion, although I did have to leave a store a week before the election when one of the workers was loudly going on insulting Obama's family and I yelled at him to "shut your fucking mouth."

mark

[marybourg]

10. Radio (IPod?) plugged in ear. Lips moving to imaginary song.

Public Radio news & public affairs programs on. Got me thru the long years before the "Welfare Reform Act" was passed. It was hell here until then. Pretty quiet now.

[old mark]

15. I think they are still stunned by the election......nt

[mykpart]

8. I live in Joe Barton's congressional district - yuck!

I joined some Democratic organizations and volunteered to work for some local candidates. When out in public I like to wait until there are black people close by and then say something to the white people about what a great man Barack Obama is. I never say anything about the Republicans, just make positive remarks about Dems. The white people are mostly terrified of the black citizens when they are on a level playing field. It's fun to watch them turn purple and froth at the mouth.

[Vektor]

9. I moved.

I used to live in such a place, and I was miserable.

I realized one day, in order to save my sanity, I HAD to get out.

Best move I ever made. I know you said moving wasn't an option for you right now, but maybe put it in your future plans - as a goal to work toward and look forward to. Just knowing you have an escape plan will make you feel better.

Then, as soon as you are able, head to a liberal oasis. I chose the Bay Area, CA. But really, you could try Chicago, or somewhere closer to you.

[cherish44]

16. As part of my child custody arrangement I agreed to stay within a 30 mile radius of my ex

so he can have regular contact with our daughter. And I absolutely want him in her life, (as much as I think he's a horse's ass, I'm doing what's best for her). My lawyer has told me that legally I can move anywhere in the state but I'd need his OK if I wanted to move out of state... I suppose I could try to talk to him about it. Chicago is about 100 miles away so I have a feeling he wouldn't be very happy about that. My daughter is happy in our small town, has friends, is doing well in school (I'm pretty happy with the schools by the way) and I'd hate to uproot her again. I grew up here and am comfortable financially, but since I've started to become more politically aware, I just find some of the attitudes hard to take. Most of my friends are Republicans but not hard liners. A few even think Obama is doing a good job. But there are very very few progressives or even progressive groups anywhere nearby. I will most likely move when she turns 18 which is 5 years away. I find myself not wanting to socialize in this town because whenever things get political I get so pissed off. The local newspaper is a Republican rag, so I don't subscribe to it.

[Trajan]

18. Further down thread ...

I responded before you posted this ...

When I was looking for someplace to go after the Ozarkian debacle: I asked DUers which cities were the best to live in: I was surprised when the most votes came in for Chicago.

Chicago is apparently one amazing place to live ... I look forward to visiting one day soon ...

100 miles is not that far .... one hour and 40 minute drive .... That is not impossible to manage ....

[Vektor]

28. Ahh...that sheds more light.

For now, if you really don't want to uproot your daughter from her school, you might just be forced to make the best of it, until you can find another solution.

If you ever decide to relocate from the town you're in before your daughter turns 18, but you still have to stay w/in a 30 mile radius of your ex, you might try searching the demographic/political profiles of towns nearby, and see if there is one with a decent school district that has a larger population of Dems. I'm guessing the town you live in is on the small side?

I was trapped for YEARS in a horribly back-wards, extremely right-wing, unbearably redneck town FULL of hard-liners. And yes, our paper was the worst RW rag ever printed - not even fit to wipe one's ass with. It was a nightmare. (In CA, no less.)

The only bright spot was that it was only a few hours drive from Berkeley/San Francisco, and even when moving was not an option, I made it a point to visit the Bay Area as often as I could - just get out of town for the weekend and enjoy the liberal city culture, and remind myself that there WAS civilization, and like-minded, educated, enlightened people out there, and they were only a car-ride away.

It helped me to get through, until I was able to move. And the SECOND I was able to, I did. Just those short weekend trips helped a ton, though.

Five years sounds like a long time to be trapped in hell (and it is) but it will fly by faster than you think, and you won't be trapped in that situation forever. The best plan of action might be to try to surround yourself with even a couple of like-minded friends (it may take a while to find them, but I'm sure there are at least a few) and get out to the city, at least periodically, where you'll feel freer.

Revel in the fact that in five years, the choice will be yours to relocate if you so choose. Whenever some jack-ass gets on your nerves with their bigoted hate speak, try to tell yourself "This is temporary, and I am doing it for the good of my child. I DON'T have to stay here forever."

Before you know it, you will be able to write your own ticket. FWIW, I spent a total of nine years in that god-forsaken hick town, and while I felt like I was going to die most of the time I was there, I didn't.

:hug: Good luck to you!

[cherish44]

35. Thanks!

I'm overall a pretty positive person. I'm just feeling pretty worn down at the moment. I'll avoid places where I know I'll have to listen to Republican BS and just keep busy. And seek out kindred spirits of course, I know they're out there

[roseBudd]

11. Join Face Book, there are liberals in your town you just need a way to find them

[BlooInBloo]

12. I wouldn't. Of course, I'm fortunate enough to have the option.

[cliffordu]

13. Sell out and move.

I did. Cost me everything I owned, well worth it.

[Ladyhawk]

14. Barely. :)

I decided to let go of the anger. I also learned that letting go of the anger is an ongoing process.

I would like to move, but I can't. I'm disabled and need help from my Republican family members.

[Trajan]

17. I have lived in large cities most my life ....

Born near NYC, moved to the LA area at age 10, and lived there will into adulthood ...

For 15 months; I lived in the Ozarks - Talk about a Fish outta water .... A liberal atheist of Brooklynite lineage living in the buckle of the bible belt .... Springfield, MO ...

That was the WORST 15 months of my life .... I was brought to my economic knees (NO job, or VERY LOW wage jobs), until I finally had to leave my family behind just to find decent work (Wound up in Boulder, CO ... Liberal Heaven)

I eventually found work in Portland, OR, and have loved being here ever since ...

I am sorry for you being stuck as you are ... but I can relate to the difficulty of living through it ....

When is moving an option ? .... What keeps you tied to the awful land there ?

[cherish44]

20. I have joint custody with my ex and agreed to stay in the area...

I've already decided I'm moving when my daughter graduates from in high school in 2014. 5 years is a long time though. There are county Dem groups in the area but they're pretty low key around here...

[Initech]

19. I live in an unusually red spot in an otherwise blue state.

Moving isnt an option for me either, at least right now.

[tech3149]

21. My only defense is to try and get the thinking part of their brain

working. It ain't easy and has to be done in baby steps. You're talking about people that have bought into the propaganda that's fed by corporate media 24/7 for years. They've lost any critical thinking skills they might have had. Getting them to accede that their point of view may be flawed and present reasons why is a start. At first they'll argue that your "facts" are flawed, then you'll have to explain the underlying concepts that support your "facts". Just work on one little chunk of their "beliefs" at a time to avoid culture shock.

The big problem is if you don't have regular contact with these people, they will fall back into the habit of not thinking and believing the corporate propaganda. Another big problem is trying to simplify your explanations so that they can digest them with their binary manner of thinking.

I'll admit it's a lot of hard work, but it is satisfying when you get them to admit that they might not be right and start to question their beliefs. Some may be beyond help, but it's worth the try.

[Maat]

22. Get thee to the nearest Unitarian-Universalist church.

Find the nearest Democratic Club.

Write down everyone's email addy; you will be connected quickly with every liberal in the area. I live in the Southern California Bible Belt. Getting connected with these wonderful, progressively-minded people has definitely saved my sanity!

Also, get a small camera and mic for your computer, and download Skype. Have your friends do the same. It helps to have "face-to-face" meetings with pals on the computer. Skype is free (the camera and mic are low-cost).

I set up my IM (instant-messaging) to talk with certain buddies. Hubby and I work out of the house; Beloved Daughter is homeschooled (through a program with a credentialed teacher). Living out in the country, we plan daily activities to get us outside and talking to people (about anything other than politics). We have our "clubs" for everything else.

I also vid-cast Democracy Now on the computer (www.democracynow.org) using Real Player, and listen to Free Speech Radio News and many other programs at www.kpfa.org. I feel as if I live in Progressive Heaven, because I've sort of created my own progressively-minded environment.

Out here, you have to worry about your kid being propagandized with rightwing fundamentalist crud in the schools (they find their ways of getting it in there - we're always beating it back).

Moreover, most of all, we're here for you!

[cherish44]

25. I have been the nearest UU church actually

about 50 miles away. I haven't been there in awhile. That's a good idea though, very cool people there. I'm on kind of a budget so I can't make the drive very often but you never know, there might be some that live out my way.

[Maat]

31. And, maybe they will help you with a virtual church,

sending you the MP3 of their service or something!

[Vickers]

23. Well, I drink a lot of herbal tea...

...and I masturbate like ever 15 minutes or so.

Hope this helps.

:spank:

[sakabatou]

Did we need to know that?!

[Vickers]

29. Please don't confuse needs and wants.

:eyes:

[Radical Activist]

27. oh yeah

I left that out of my post but it sounds familiar. haha

[Swamp Rat]

72. LOLOL!!!

:rofl:

[Coyote_Bandit]

24. Let me count the ways

(1) No frickin way I read the local news rag.

(2) Avoid church and religious zealots.

(3) Seek out creative and artistic folks - who tend to be more tolerant and more liberal. Musicians. Painters. Scrapbookers. Seamstresses. Metalworkers. Jewelers. Potters. Woodworkers.

(4) Avoid religious and political discussions with folks I am not well acquainted/comfortable discussing such matters. There are repercussions.

(5) Avoid fraternization in the workplace. Thre are repercusions.

(6) Stay busy and find something nurturing. Get a pet. Work in the yard. Clean the house. Grow some veggies. Take a trip and visit family. Paint. Learn a craft/art. Take up a new hobby.

(7) Try to be a bit mysterious. Don't wear your heart on your sleeve. You don't have to reveal, explain or defend your beliefs.

(8) Remember there is a reason you are here. Opportunities or obligations that cannot easily be fulfilled elsewhere.

(9) Create a vision of where you want to be and what you want to be doing in the future. Develop a plan. Work toward that goal and visualize reaching it everyday. Create visual reminders that are motivational (my second property tax reassessment in 3 months is currently serving that purpose).

(10) Relax. Be comfortable and confident with yourself. Meditate.


When all else fails, drink. A lot. And visit DU. Not necessarily in that order.



Edit to ask if anyone here could photoshop a pic of somebody mooning the Tulsa city limit sign for me.......

[Vektor]

30. Your list rules!

That's about what I did in order to survive my stint in a redneck town. Good advice indeed.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

34. Excellent advice, CB!! Except for the drinking part.

My sweetie (an Oklahoma Aggie) had to run off screaming from OK and Tulsa particularly, because he couldn't stand the ignorance. I met him in Houston.

We moved to East Texas. We really are a long way from civilization. I go to Houston about once a month to every six weeks, which is about 2 and one half hours away. The nearest UU congregations are 60 miles away.

It's very quiet around here. People keep inviting us to church. We are Unitarians so we just tell them no. I've explained that there are no churches like we belong to around there. They get persistent and ask again, like they didn't hear me the first time. Then I get silent.
They look quite stunned.

We are not into high school football, high school basketball, Christianity, or shitkicker music, so we really don't have any friends. When people ask me if I like country music, I say "No" because I don't want to pretend to enjoy something that is painful to listen to (I've had decades of musical training).

I know there are creative people around, but I'm not sure how to find them. We don't have any art galleries or cool shops nearby. There's not anybody around to buy my old glassware and such either.

I have invited our creative friends from Houston to come see us and hang out, but they are all so busy working that they don't get up here. We do a lot of cooking but don't have any friends to eat it with us. We gave up on the job market because it was quite hopeless, and moved.

[cherish44]

37. Good ideas

especially that last one! I think that's key :)

[misanthrope]

40. Wow, a worksheet is included with this thread!...

...Let's see:

(1) No frickin way I read the local news rag.
-In spades. Our local daily is horribly biased. Problem is, my regular gig requires me to try and stay abreast of some local news. Had I my way I wouldn't pay attention to any of it. There's not that many media outlets here.

(2) Avoid church and religious zealots.
-I'm agnostic. My wife's family is ultra-Catholic and plenty conservative.

(3) Seek out creative and artistic folks - who tend to be more tolerant and more liberal. Musicians. Painters. Scrapbookers. Seamstresses. Metalworkers. Jewelers. Potters. Woodworkers.
-That does help, however creative types tend to need a lot of down time as well. Their jobs thrive on introspection.

(4) Avoid religious and political discussions with folks I am not well acquainted/comfortable discussing such matters. There are repercussions.
-Great one. Already do that. The only caveat is that it's pretty easy to run into those on the other side of the fence who will broadcast their views at the drop of a hat. I even had an in-law ask me at a family gathering--loudly and with various folks looking on--what the Obama sign was doing in our yard. I smiled and said I wasn't going to spoil a family gathering by discussing politics so he dropped it.

(5) Avoid fraternization in the workplace. Thre are repercussions.
-You got this one right. Although, right now, my abstinence from fraternization is costing me at my job because things are so political and juvenile there.

(6) Stay busy and find something nurturing. Get a pet. Work in the yard. Clean the house. Grow some veggies. Take a trip and visit family. Paint. Learn a craft/art. Take up a new hobby.
-We've got four cats. I can't do yardwork because of my emphysema. I keep the house clean. Gardening is kind of difficult. The trips make me long even more for the world beyond. I play guitar and engage in creative projects--painting, metal sculpture, editing slideshows and movies--all the time. I make my living as a writer.

I started a jazz society a few years back and we've been moderately successful. Problem is that the experience has confirmed some suppressed suspicions within me about the local socio/economic/ethnic dynamic. It ain't flattering either.

(7) Try to be a bit mysterious. Don't wear your heart on your sleeve. You don't have to reveal, explain or defend your beliefs.
-I thought we were keeping our cards close to our chest by not talking about it.

(8) Remember there is a reason you are here. Opportunities or obligations that cannot easily be fulfilled elsewhere.
-Not so sure that applies in my case. My family's not here. My wife's family is.

(9) Create a vision of where you want to be and what you want to be doing in the future. Develop a plan. Work toward that goal and visualize reaching it everyday. Create visual reminders that are motivational (my second property tax reassessment in 3 months is currently serving that purpose).
-Good advice. Thanks.

(10) Relax. Be comfortable and confident with yourself. Meditate.
-True enough.

[CitizenPatriot]

55. thanks for the list

I have moved from most liberal towns in the country to a blue dot in a red state- but even the blue dot is filled with fundies. It's crazy out there, and frankly, a lot more depressing after the election than it was before. The hate is on parade.

I have mostly liberal friends, being in the arts, and that helps.

[Radical Activist]

26. I thought anywhere in IL

had at least a few Dems around. Being an organizer at heart I worked to create my own progressive community. People came out of the wood works. They aren't as outnumbered as they thought.

[HubertHeaver]

32. Stop reading the Telegraph

[cherish44]

33. LOL

No I want to hear what crack in the sidewalk they're naming after Reagan this week!

[misanthrope]

36. It's always been bad here...

...but it seems to have grown worse over time. At one time, I believed there was hope and I could effect change hereabouts but many years have shown me that I am banging my noggin on a crimson wall and my forehead is now getting bloody.

I don't get out much. We have a very small circle of friends.

Both my wife's family and mine are firm conservatives. Between her Old World-meets-Old South clan and my rural Southern bunch, we have every type of red state demographic you can imagine covered.

My wife returns from church upset because the priest goes on a screed against Hollywood and the liberals. She comes home furious each day due to the right-wing atmosphere at her office.

Luckily, I work out of the house a lot. When I do have to venture to an office, the racism, elitism and just plain provincialism is almost overwhelming. I don't go to more than a couple of restaurants, one bar to hear jazz once a week. One gathering and board meeting per month for the non-profit I started a few years back.

I have to leave soon. I've been here for a couple of decades and no approach I've tried has worked. I was about ready to relocate when I met my wife almost 15 years ago. Her familial connections to this place make leaving difficult for her, but it's worn me to a nub.

This place is great for some but not for me. I need far more cultural stimulation in areas that aren't offered here. I don't feel truly attached to a community, though I've tried to find like souls. I don't feel as if my value system meshes with this vast majority of residents and don't feel like I will ever belong here regardless of my efforts.

I particularly don't like the small town aspects of it, strangers knowing who you are, acquaintances mulling "your business." It's a gossipy little place that thinks it's a lot bigger than it actually is.

I thought two trips to Portland, Oregon last year (first real vacation in nine years) would release some of the pressure but it made things worse. With that taste of what it's like in the midst of like-minded souls, it makes it difficult.

Imagine a food, something not distasteful, but not particularly appetizing either. Now imagine you're fed that every day, every meal.

What was once innocuous becomes more loathsome.

Now suddenly you're given a different, particularly delicious food a couple of times...then sent back to the usual fare. That's about how I feel right now.

[NuttyFluffers]

42. u shud hold a phat rave for da kidz in da greater county area!

:7 :bounce: :party: :hippie:

nuthin like a party to get it started. dancing and music and love and laughter to hatefulness is like sunlight to vampires. besides, the kids need something to do.

not a realistic idea, but still doable. and think of the rep after that! :D despised by the power structure, beloved by the outcasts and desperate young. give 'em a dream and, just like delicious food after bland, suddenly mean things no longer seem so necessary or inescapable.

[CitizenPatriot]

57. Oh, boy...your post spoke volumes for me

Since I haven't lived in this area for very long, I can still remember what it was like living around like-minded people and it is a real downer.

I have a hard time keeping my opinions about this subject to myself; being raised in an atmosphere where debate was welcomed. I keep making the costly mistake of engaging the fundies and end up enraged and frustrated. I wanted to be someplace where my vote could make a difference; I failed to take into account the space between the votes:-) ha ha. To be fair, we have a lot of good friends here who are liberals and it STILL sucks. I have neighbors who still have Mccain signs up.

Hang in there and I hope you can get out soon.

Edited to add: Moved here from LA, so fundy neighbors think we are the spawn of the devil and send the church people over here to save us biweekly. They refer to us as the "Hollywood couple" even to our faces, which is so not a compliment:-(

[Budgies Revenge]

41. I try to keep a sense of humor.....

and bother them when they least expect it. For example, I used to work at an establishment that sold "confederate memorabilia". Most days I was the only person there to run the register, answer questions etc. I always made it a point to see how far I could go before the people who shopped there realized something was amiss. I usually brought a book to read...a few of my favorites to bring to the store were "Uncle Tom's Cabin", "Why We Can't Wait", and "Black Like Me". I also enjoyed wearing my Clinton/Gore and ACLU t-shirts to work. If I really wanted to get on their nerves I would grab a union kepi and wear it all day. I also enjoy going to the local gun range, practice for a little while, then come out and discuss politics with the people behind the counter. The looks I get are priceless.

[crispini]

43. You HAVE to go find your kindrid spirits.

They're out there. Look for Democratic county party organizations and clubs. You'll find them and it'll be such a RELIEF. I know!

[mnhtnbb]

46. Go to the local Democrats for your county. Find out if they need precinct workers.

Up thread #24 there are a lot of good suggestions.

I've been there. We lived in St. Joseph, MO and Lincoln, NE for 12 years. I hated both places.
My solution was to get involved with community theatre. I also took a playwriting class
and wrote my first play. If you have any creative talents, look into ways to nurture that talent
by taking a class or joining a group. Artists, musicians, actors all tend to be liberal spirits.

And I agree. Start making plans for moving when your daughter turns 18. Do a lot of research.
Make plans to visit the top 3 choices of where you'd like to live in 5 years. Then do it.
It will give you a goal and hope. In the meantime, do everything you can to find a group
with more like-minded souls to nurture yours while you make your plans to move.

[seabeyond]

44. i isolate. i have never been big on socializing, but now i just isolate

my husband was talking about our future, retirement and was talking about moving out, saying he cant see me living here much longer. i was surprised he thought of this, but happy.

[mnhtnbb]

47. Look into Chapel Hill, NC. I love it here after living first in MO and then NE

when we moved from Los Angeles in 1988. Lots of retirees. A county that votes 60-70% Dem. Excellent
health care. Top universities.

[seabeyond]

48. thanks, really. i cant handle the claustrophobic south and humidity.

i feel like the sky is pressin down and all the trees .... lol. more a west kinda person

i would love the state of washington or oregon. hubby cant handle cold and rain, but on other side of mountain is good.

but he/we really like colorado.

could do northern new mexico too. lol.

[misanthrope]

50. Oregon and Washington...

...are rainy west of the Cascades and have bitterly cold winters on the east side of the range. Not to mention, you said the trees in the South make you claustrophobic but the forests in the PNW dwarf those in the South.

I would think New Mexico and Colorado's natural pitfalls are drought and fire.

I guess you have to pick your poison.

[seabeyond]

51. ya. i have to endure tornados here, but earthquakes when i lived in calif

i will take an earthquake anytime over a tornado, lol

[mnhtnbb]

52. I have a nephew who lives in Ft. Collins and loves it--has been there since

he went to CSU. He and his wife love hiking, skiing, outdoorsy stuff.

I don't know how liberal it is, but it comes up often in various "best places to live" surveys.

[seabeyond]

58. i got all excited and tingly, lol lol looking at pictures and see where it is

i could do that. hubby loves outdoors, and fishing. and oldest wants to go to collage in colorado. that university was one on his list.

yes yes

lets do it.... NOW....

ok, maybe not now, but in 4 yrs, wink. hubby just has to get a lottery win, wink.

thanks

[mnhtnbb]

59. Never too soon to start planning. Take the oldest to see the school and you see the town?

:bounce:

I just checked and the voters of CO US House District 4 (includes Ft. Collins) elected a first term woman, Dem to the House of Representatives, defeating an incumbent woman Republican. The new Rep is Betsy Markey (D).

[seabeyond]

65. sounds like a deal. thanks. n/t

[WilliamPitt]

49. DU

[seabeyond]

53. lol lol.... yup. true. n/t

[Fireweed247]

61. exactly!

:fistbump:

I moved from Cali to Alaska- talk about culture shock. I was suprised and saddened that there are people in town who not only voted for McCain, they actually put up a sign for him in their yards? What the hell is wrong with people? After everything Bush has done, how can anyone opening support McContinue? At least I know which businesses NOT to support. They were actually gathered in town on election day- in support of McCain! I know!!! I drove by twice and flashed them a peace symbol...sorta felt sorry for how freaking pathetic they are...damn dinosaurs.
Who is laughing now? Me! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

But let me just reiterate THANK GOD FOR DU :loveya:

[seabeyond]

64. calif to alaska??? calif to texas!!!!, lol lol. not a whole hell of a lot different

true sisters, sistah....

:fistbump:

[mwb970]

54. Wow, this thread makes me appreciate where *I* live (Columbus)!

Having experienced one or two right-wingers at a time at the office, at parties, etc., I cannot imagine living in a place where the entire town was like that. Good God! I think that's my vision of Hell. It sounds like an episode of The Twilight Zone. Or maybe 24.

[Raven]

60. I work in one...fortunately, I can go home to my liberal little town every

day. I laugh alot.

[trayfoot]

62. It AIN'T easy!!!!!!

[JustJeking]

63. I live in Florida

and in the Tampa Bay area, near where a huge confederate flag was erected. Furthermore, on the street where I live, every house, with the exception of mine and two others, had HUGE McCain/Palin signs up. *sighs* To keep my sanity, I check Democratic Underground on a daily basis and converse with like-minded friends/families via the Internet.

[Liberal_in_LA]

66. If you libs move out of the 'hell hole towns' these towns become more concentrated in rightwingers

so stay where you are. Suck it up. :D

[misanthrope]

68. To what end?...

...What's accomplished by it other than immersing yourself in frustration, isolation and voluntary disenfranchisement?

You don't get any second lives to correct the errors of the first. This is it.

[Z_I_Peevey]

67. I was here first, back when it was full of Democratic, unionized

coal miners and factory workers. These newbie neocons can bite me; I ain't leaving.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

71. My family goes back 3 generations in this little town.

My Democratic grandmother married the widower who owned this house. That's how we acquired a grandpa.

I've been coming to this town for nearly fifty years, and now I live here.

So I ain't leaving either.

[liberal1973]

69. Easily I'm a vampire

[keroro gunsou]

70. video games

very violent video games.

and drinking helps.... for me at least. i should own stock in the brewery whose products i consume....