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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:02 PM
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Bill Clinton just said he was such a Calvanist he couldn't take a day off from
work because it made him too anxious. I'm like that too.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:07 PM
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1. It depends - how much beer is involved?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:18 PM
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5. Oh I'd love to take a day off and drink beer. Unfortunately I'm already an alcoholic. So I don't
have that to fall back on.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:19 PM
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6. Ahhh gotchya
I like beer but like pot much better

My problem is I drink when there's (a) beer in the fridge and (b) I'm bored

If I'm busy, or there's no beer in the fridge - I don't drink

Kinda weird that way :silly:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:34 PM
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8. I never liked pot. But figured if it became legal I would try it (I'm in Canada and they were going
to decriminalize it a few years ago). I have quit smoking now and would love some drug that wasn't addictive and is recreational. Don't know if I would enjoy pot now. For now I'll have to rely on coffee.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:39 PM
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10. Yes, pot isn't addictive
And if vaporized or eaten, has no health risks

Well, except the raiding of the pantry :)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:50 PM
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11. I guess it wouldn't help me diet. LOL!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 06:54 PM
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12. Well that depends
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 06:54 PM by Taverner
If you decide that you're going to lift weights and just get ripped, it does help you choke down those endless protein and egg white shakes you have to do.

There's a reason Arnie smoked pot in his 'Pumping Iron' days.

And if you're willing to lift weights, there is a way to eat your way to healthiness.

And one more thing - weightlifting is strangely fun when you're high. Something about "WOW! Where the heck did those Endorphins just come from!?!?!" that just makes it fun.

But yeah, if you're trying to lose weight, you might want to lock that refrigerator after you toke up.

Don't worry though, you can distract yourself with other things. Like, say, DU ;-)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:04 PM
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13. I don't have to worry about it because it looks like pot isn't going to be legal
in Canada any time soon.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:06 PM
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14. You guys just have to get that Fuckwad Harper out
And swimming in the Hudson Bay without a life preserver :)

I KEED I KEED!!!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:50 PM
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16. I hear you Triumph the insult dog. Up here we prefer "Ed the Sock"
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 07:51 PM by applegrove
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:15 PM
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18. Triumph is a genius, no?
He says everything we can't :)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:32 PM
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21. Ed the Sock was the original straight talker. Triumph is a phony ... phony truth teller.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:07 PM
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2. Bubba was on the job 24/7. No one's ever questioned that. nt
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:14 PM
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3. I'm glad I'm an agnostic. I took off every day I could away with.
Working is a highly overvalued pastime.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:17 PM
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4. I wish I could relax like you.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:22 PM
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7. To quote Nike, "Just do it."
As an employee assistance counselor, I had to deal with a lot of stressed out (sometimes suicidal people) who took their work way, way, too seriously.

I used to advise them to call in sick when they weren't sick, just to find out if the company was all that dependent on their services.

It's just a friggin' job.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:36 PM
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9. "WORK!!!!"




Maynard G. Krebs (Beatnik on Dobie Gillis c. 1959-63)





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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:09 PM
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15. guess that explains why he got his BJs right in the OO, rather than take off for afternoon delite.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 07:53 PM
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17. This started out as a positive thread - what happened?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:18 PM
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19. It's a metaphor for Calvinism in general. n/t
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:23 PM
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20. Predestination. n/t
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:20 PM
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22. That's kinda right. GWB wouldn't even have been in the office at that hour. nt
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:22 PM
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23. Clinton's 'relief by work' is more than offset by anxious, jobless Californians via K Lay enablement
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 09:52 PM by tiptoe

Clinton never undid Gramm's changes...Enron used artificial shortages, bogus deals, and total knowledge of the market AS SOLE OWNER OF ITS OWN ONLINE MARKET to TREBLE California's energy bills.




I'm bitter that Bill deep-sixed BCCI matters for Poppy in the 90s and we got stuck with Bush2

And 1.3 million Iraqis were killed for Texas Oil interests...War crimes and murders paid by and in the name of the American people.


Good job, "Humanitarian" "People's President" DLC Bill. Keep up that "work ethic" in the interest of "helping people" via corporate "donors" to the "foundation".






 
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:25 PM
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24. Bill Clinton considers himself a Calvinist?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:34 PM
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25. I love the little guy in the Princess Bride. He's so cute. I'd fall in love with him if I was
the type to fall in love with celebrities. But I am not.

Yup Clinton called himself a calvinist and said he had to work every day or he felt nervous.
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:35 PM
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26. Me too. I can take a morning off, tops. Then I'm restless
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:36 PM
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27. I hate the days I don't work. Thank god for the DU keeping me busy on
those days off.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:37 PM
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28. He's just a Type A personality
Calvinism has nothing to do with it.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:42 PM
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29. He described himself as calvanist. Being one too I can tell you a type
Edited on Mon Feb-16-09 09:43 PM by applegrove
A personality is not necessary to feel nervous when not working. I have what I've called a zed personality (really I'm probably whatever an easygoing but conscientious personality is) but I still get anxious on days when I'm not working. I like to feel fully functional and I like to work. At home I can only relax if it leads to something: I can read if it is bedtime. I can blog if I feel that is pushing the liberal agenda ahead. I don't needed a spotlessly clean apartment...cleaning doesn't make me feel less anxious. But I am in no way a Type A personality. Just a calvanist. So though Bill Clinton could be an A type personality he could also be a calvanist. An A type personality probably gets as much out of running 5 miles as they do out of working for 8 hours. A calvanist not so much.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:11 PM
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30. My point is, it has nothing to do with your faith, just your personality
Call it Type A or Type Zed, I don't care. It's just not a trait that can be embedded into a system of faith or even a societal norm. It's just personality.

And Calvinism doesn't even specify such modes of behavior - look it up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvinism
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:16 PM
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31. Calvanist work ethic does imply such behaviour. And that is what Clinton was
responding to. The question was would he enjoy being a househusband to Hillary. He said I'm a calvanist and not working makes me feel nervous. (not verbatim but the question was definitely work related).
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:18 PM
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32. It's an old phrase...
not too many younger people identify with that any longer.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:20 PM
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33. I agree it is an old phrase. People are likely not brought up that way as
much as they were in the past. It is more either evangelical, fundies or agnosticism in the USA.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 11:53 PM
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35. I should have said "protestant work ethic" . Aw well. Same thing.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:06 AM
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36. JESUS CHRIST, the word is CALVINIST, not calvanist,
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 12:31 AM by JVS
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:42 AM
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37. !
:rofl:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:05 PM
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39. LOL!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:05 PM
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38. I should have used spell check.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 10:24 PM
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34. Supposedly he barely slept
Don't know if its true or not, but I was reading some writings of people who met with him and they said he would only sleep a few hours a night.

Not that I'm in favor of that (sleep deprivation destroys concentration, judgement and memory). But if Clinton was just genetically prone to not needing much sleep, damn. Good for him.
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