The country needs a grand vision & a challenge equivalent to the moon landing.

[The_Casual_Observer]

We need more than a weak stimulus band-aid that will do little more than hopefully regain the old status quo. Probably a worthy candidate for this effort would be a sustained renewable energy project.

[tabatha]

1. I don't think a bigger one would have had the support of the 3 republicans to get it passed.

I think.... (hoping) that Obama is spreading it out so that the sum is far more than the parts - eg stimulus, housing, banking then budget. I also suspect that once all these are done, there will be wealthy people ready to invest more than they are now, and that could also help.

[SharonAnn]

2. "Science flys you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings."

I saw that in a picture here on DU this morning.

It was a sign on the side of a bus in Great Britain.

[Romulox]

3. Turns out that "every man for himself" doesn't make a very good call to action

We live in a social darwinist "devil take the hindmost" society. Where is there room for a "grand vision" in such a society?

[Lars39]

4. A plan to wipe out poverty would do it.

[ConcernedCanuk]

7. Didn't George Carlin express that idea a decade or so ago?? - "How about a war on homelessness"?

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something like that

It would sure take a heck of a lot less money than bombing the shit out of the Middle East

And maybe the World might regain some respect for the USA . .

Just my Canuk thots . . .

[Lars39]

9. LBJ' plan to wipe out poverty was about 40 yrs ago.

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. Wiping out poverty is the consequence of good policy, it's meaningless

an impossible as the primary goal.

[Lars39]

12. Codswaddle.

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. I suppose you have an economic system up your sleeve that has

yet to be discovered. Good for you.

[Captain Hilts]

5. No, I think competent government is a good goal right now. nt

[DCKit]

6. If the public could be convinced of the threat to National Security...

our dependence on foreign oil really is, the Patriots and Nationalists would both be up in arms.

[bobthedrummer]

8. PROSECUTE THE BUSH/CHENEY CRIMINALS THAT VICTIMIZED US.

RETURN WHAT WAS STOLEN FROM US. THAT'S A WORTHY LONG-TERM PROJECT, ISN'T IT?

[The_Casual_Observer]

10. This is very sad. There is nothing that is going to be returned to us.

[jmg257]

14. Hmm...there are plans to return to the moon, and land on mars. And money in HR1 for NASA.

Maybe...

[arcadian]

15. Too bad we don't have aleweums.

we could all come together to fight the xeternal aleweum threat, just like Ronnie Raygun wanted.

[depakid]

16. Agreed

Yet how would a country whose people celebrate a culture of lies start such a thing?

[The_Casual_Observer]

17. From the posts on this thread I might say mired rather than celebrate.

[Cha]

18. This is a challenge = to a moon landing and

it's not all going to happen at once. Baby steps.

[malaise]

19. Some high speed trains might do it

along with some modern bridges.

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. Once a bridge or train is built they all get laid off.

Something that pays real dividends in the future is needed.