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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:17 PM
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ND House Passes Abortion Ban
North Dakota's House of Representatives has passed a bill effectively outlawing abortion.

The House voted 51-41 this afternoon to declare that a fertilized egg has all the rights of any person.

That means a fetus could not be legally aborted without the procedure being considered murder.

http://www.kxmc.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=333726
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:20 PM
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1. Oh my lord.
We are flying back into the 15th century now, aren't we?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:26 PM
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11. We ain't flying' *nowhere*.
This bible belt kabuki theater won't get 10 feet.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:38 PM
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15. every one of those assbags that voted yes best be on their way right to start adopting up
some children, all of them and not just the babies.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:20 PM
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2. Far out!
So, are they going to have a new Department of Menstrual Fluid Examination to make sure that no potential North Dakotans are being shuffled out of this world in a tampon or sanitary napkin? Where will all women of child-bearing age and ability go to have their flow analyzed? Will it be one central location, or will they have offices all over the state? Will they fund it with a tax on rubbers or something else?

And before you get all nauseated over the prospects I've outlined, this is exactly what the North Dakota Lege has legally decreed should happen.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:21 PM
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3. Back to illegal abortions and coat hangers.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:21 PM
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4. K&R
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:21 PM
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5. these republicans are totally out of control.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:22 PM
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6. Unconstitutional...and will be struck down as such...
..but way to show your medieval thinking North Dakota....

:eyes:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:22 PM
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7. I suggest all the fertile women in ND send their legislators
all their used sanitary napkins and tampons so that it can be ascertained whether or not they have committed involuntary manslaughter that month by passing a fertilized ovum.

I further suggest that all male legislators in ND become proactive concerning the terrible scourge of abortion and prevent them by cutting their dicks off.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:23 PM
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8. every sperm is sacred!
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:24 PM
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10. You forgot the video...
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:40 PM
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16. A far less classy YouTube
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:23 PM
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I'll second that!
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:57 PM
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20. Warpy, this actually worked with anti-choice legislators here
in VA.

Several years back, the RW neanderthals were very close to passing a law that would mandate a woman report a miscarriage within 48 hours to authorities. People saw it for what it was....a back door way to start tracking abortions and obstructing a women's right to privacy.

Well, some really smart Virginian started a website....can't remember the name of it now. But since every period a woman has, has the potential to be a "miscarriage" if she is sexually active, this woman started organizing a drive such as the one you suggested. Tons of women signed up to participate.

When word got around of this as it was written about and publicized, it freaked out the proponents and the bill went down in flames.

It was a great moment of sisters sticking together when men start getting into the business of legislating our bodies!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 05:04 PM
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22. Who do you think posted that suggestion
on one of the state message boards?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:23 PM
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9. You mean someone actually lives in North Dakota?
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 04:25 PM by MineralMan
I thought that was a myth.

Seriously, the ND legislature has a penchant for passing nonsense. This thing will not survive a serious court challenge. It would make taking the morning after pill equivalent to murder. And never mind crossing the border into Minnesota to obtain an abortion. That would be the best first test case...and would show the depth of idiocy of this bill.

OTOH, perhaps the Governor of ND will veto this silliness.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:27 PM
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12. Watch for a resurgence of "female troubles" and the re-emergence of the "D & C"
for patients who can afford it..

Back when I was young, a D& C was a very commonplace "procedure", and then when abortion was made legal, suddenly a LOT of "female troubles" miraculously disappeared :evilgrin:
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:29 PM
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13. The lesson Republicans took from the 2008 campaign
was that they were not radical enough. I promise this is nothing compared to what we will see from them over the next four years.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:36 PM
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14. Okay, ND. The rest of us will be in the civilized part of the country if you need us.
Feel free to join us at any time.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:44 PM
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17. North Dakota needs a ban on abortion.
Nobody fucking lives there.



:sarcasm: if needed
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:48 PM
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18. And they are probably in denial of global warming, which will claim far more lives than abortion.
Ding bats!

Why do people let the seriously disturbed hold office?
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:48 PM
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19. What happens if a woman miscarries after say a month?
Is it ruled a homicide? Reckless endangerment? Supposes she falls off a bike and miscarries but didn't know she was pregnant? Is that murder? These people are idiots.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 05:03 PM
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21. It won't be long before they start locking up women for being pregnant.
They'll tell them that they are watching out for their baby. They'll have to quit their jobs if they are too stressful or physically demanding.

And I thought they were supposed to be smarter in ND.

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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 05:04 PM
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23. Scary religious fundamentalist crap.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 05:06 PM
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24. Is there even a place to get an abortion in ND?
for some reason I am under the idea that fundies successfully drove all clinics out of ND with their goofy restrictive licensing laws and through other ways. there may be one on a reservation. Otherwise don't ND women have to go out of state anyway?
As always, I could easily be wrong.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 05:07 PM
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25. Welcome back to the Dark Ages
The world is flat, a few cells is a human being, dinosaurs were ridden by humans, the Earth is the center of the universe, and pestilence and plague are a good thing - especially with mustard on rye bread...
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 05:07 PM
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26. There is no chance this legislation stands up in a federal or state court.
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 05:09 PM by blueclown
That is, if it passes. It hasn't passed yet.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 05:16 PM
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27. would a miscarriage be deemed involuntary manslaughter then?
I hope the ND senate has more sense and that the governor vetoes this--they could use the argument about miscarriages being criminal acts under this bill to bring home the stupidity of it.
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