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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:17 PM
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Liquid Water Found on Mars
Source: New Scientist & Current.com

NASA's Phoenix lander has captured the first images of liquid water on Mars - droplets that splashed onto the spacecraft's leg during landing, according to members of the Phoenix team.

Photos at link:

Read more: http://current.com/items/89826975/liquid_water_found_on_mars.htm



Amazing Discovery!!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:20 PM
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1. Looks like Afganistan there
Only the "Puppet" Mayor of Kabul does not appear on the screen
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:28 AM
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39. Except Mars is safer. n/t
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:53 AM
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41. Afghanistan is actually one of the most beautiful places on earth....
Weird, unlike anywhere else.

COLOR-CHANGING HILLS!!



I remember seeing a travelog film from the 60's - 70's,
before we funded the "freedom fighters" of the mighty
Mujahideen.

I have never forgotten it.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:27 PM
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Cool. We can move us all there when earth becomes unliveable
because of our hyperconsumptive, destructive tendencies........
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AyanEva Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 09:26 PM
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13. I call dibs on the first ship out.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:27 PM
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20. I call dibs on the second.
So I can watch and see how you do!
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:27 AM
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50. I'd be careful of choosing the "B Ark" if I were you...
You might end up someplace like Earth, stuck with a bunch
of telephone sanitisers and Republicans!

Tesha

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:27 PM
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2. WOW!
Yay science!

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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:28 PM
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3. Martians pee in that you know.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:34 PM
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4. But Martians are an intelligent form of yeast.
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 08:40 PM by Jackpine Radical
They look like rocks and pee alcohol.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:46 PM
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6. Ugly Bags Of Mostly Water we try at peace, you do not listen.
Bag who drill in Sand Of Home had to die.

Home Soil

"When a terraforming project hits problems the Enterprise crew discover a powerful microscopic life form which has declared war on humans. The lifeform takes over the Enterprise's lab and computers, and threatens to destroy the ship."
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:32 PM
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24. You mean, Martians are symbiotic with Man? Wow.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:30 AM
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37. Our long-lost cousins. Or symbiotes anyway.
Something that has always fascinated me is that humans, left to their own devices with no clues about when it is night and day, will tend to go onto a 25-hour sleep/wake cycle. In other words, our internal clocks are set to the Martian day, not the Earth one.

I say we came from Mars, and offer this as proof.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:42 PM
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5. Let's invade mars now
and bring freedom and democracy to those people :sarcasm:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:47 PM
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7. It's them or us!
ACK ACK ACK

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tledford Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 09:15 PM
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11. Rack-ack! eom
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:33 AM
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28. WMDs! Invade!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:56 PM
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8. Just don't forget the Slim Whitman CDs!
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:01 AM
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25. Thanks for the sarcasm indicator.
I was about to go postal on you.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 09:05 PM
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9. They have been sitting on these pics since 25 May 2008 ?
why the breaking news now?

NASA up for budget cuts or looking for a bailout stimulus?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Ie7i6vRUM
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 09:53 PM
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15. It's called analysis.
NT!

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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:18 PM
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19. not exactly rocket science is it
when anybody can figure it out in less time then it took to "analyze" the data for so long behind closed doors away from the public eye
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 04:24 PM
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53. And internal review....and external peer review...and on and on.
I'm surprised anything ever gets published!


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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 09:09 PM
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10. water = liquid
If it is solid is is called ice.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:05 AM
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26. Ice isn't frozen water?
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:59 AM
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44. They theorize that it is extremely salty with perchlorate salts.
The droplets grow over the period of weeks, they think the salts are absorbing water vapor.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 09:20 PM
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12. Lets hope it's not a byproduct of Hydrogen and Oxygen oxidizing into water.
Since they don't say what fuel the lander used to slow its descent...

Yes, H2O is water.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 09:38 PM
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14. Stupid Ugly Bags pee on leg, don't notice? nt
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 09:59 PM
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16. zOMG I always knew Mars was muddy. n/t
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:08 PM
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17. "liquid water"???

As opposed to "frozen ice"??
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:15 PM
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18. Hopefully, Mars has tight immigration policies that will keep humans
out :eyes:
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 07:53 AM
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35. Ane what about the real "illegal aliens" coming here to take our jobs.
;)
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Oldenuff Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:28 PM
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21. Liquid water?

Is there any other kind?

Don't drink it till it's been tested folks.
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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:44 PM
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22. Hmm…you think they have
any jumbo shrimp up there?;-)
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:31 PM
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23. not according to "military intelligence" :)
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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:07 AM
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48. good one
:headbang:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 04:44 AM
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32. There's a lot of the solid variety outside here right now (nt)
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:06 AM
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47. Ice & Steam
They're both just different states of water.
GAC
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 04:26 PM
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54. Can water be in a plasma state too?
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 05:51 AM
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57. It Would Be Hard
A high energy ionic state could absorb energy to split the water into individual gasses. I'm doing this at 445 in the morning so, i'm not remembering the exact energy levels needed, but i'm pretty sure that the water would decompose to elements at plasma energies.
GAC
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:12 AM
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27. Time for a Earth to Mars trip
Let's start out with sending those politicians who didn't want to get involved in the stimulus legislation and then said they weren't allowed to.....
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:35 AM
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29. I, for one, welcome our new martian overlords. nt
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:15 AM
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31. That is too too funny!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:05 AM
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30. So I assume that the retro-rockets melted the permafrost as it was coming down
right?
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 08:21 AM
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36. One would think so.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:00 AM
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45. The droplets grew in size and number over a period of weeks after landing. n/t
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:05 AM
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46. That's what I would guess
Or picked up water vapor as it came through Mars atmosphere. Possibly condensation? Just like a plane here on Earth can pick up ice on its metal surfaces at high altitude. Water vapor in the atmosphere condenses on the metal of the probe and stay liquid because the probe heats up on entry. Freezes again once the probe has landed and cooled down.
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marksmithfield Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 07:10 AM
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33. It seems
maybe those canals that Lowell saw weren't so far fetched.
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 07:19 AM
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34. Greetings, Martians,
We bring you "Kool Aid." We will give you 5 packets in exchange for one half of your planet...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:09 AM
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49. they don't want us there, we have screwed up enough things!!
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:26 AM
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38. Now if we could only ship all of our excess greenhouse gasses there.
In a few hundred years it could be a nice vacation spot. Well...except for the whole no electromagnetic field to protect you from deadly cosmic radiation part.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:59 AM
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43. Every inch those little robots run they create ozone
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:34 AM
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51. How do you figure?
You don't think they have brushes in their drive
motors, do you?

Tesha

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:45 AM
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40. Good thing they didn't discover oil...
:evilgrin:
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:57 AM
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42. Looks to me like it was ice that was melted by the lander's rocket motor
and condensed on the legs of the craft.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:02 PM
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52. "you piddled on my leg!!" nt
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Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 04:40 PM
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55. How long till it's bottled for the super rich?
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Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 04:40 PM
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56. Ah some one gav me hearts
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