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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 09:52 AM
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Who's rooting for "Slumdog"
I know I am!

The Dickensian genius of 'Slumdog'
By Ed Siegel
February 22, 2009
IF LIFE imitates art tonight, then "Slumdog Millionaire" - the story of a poor Mumbai boy who prevails against all odds - will add the Oscar to its list of accomplishments. Coincidentally, the slumdog who made it all possible for Jamal Malik to strike it rich will be competing with him for eyeballs.

Part 2 of a fascinating new adaptation of "Oliver Twist" will be winding up on "Masterpiece Classic" on Channel 2, as part of that series' Charles Dickens festival. (A repeat of Daniel Radcliffe in "David Copperfield" is next, followed by new versions of "Little Dorrit" and "The Old Curiosity Shop.")

The current "Oliver Twist" isn't a modernized version of the story, but it does have striking modernist touches, as the plot somewhat departs from Dickens. The soundtrack during the London chase scenes even sounds a bit like A.R. Rahman's score for the Mumbai movie.

The comparison with Dickens isn't made lightly. When people want to compare "Slumdog" unfavorably with other movies - as I did in a recent column with Mike Leigh's "Happy-Go-Lucky" - they point to its Hollywood aspects. But when critics sing its praises, they cite its Dickensian scope.

Since the Academy wasn't smart enough to nominate "Happy-Go-Lucky" or its star, Sally Hawkins, I'm now rooting for the Dickensian "Slumdog." And it really is closer to Dickens than to Hollywood - it doesn't stint from showing the hellish aspects of the Mumbai slums, complete with their own versions of Fagin, Bill Sikes, and the Artful Dodger. The movie's limning of a have-and-have-not society makes 21st-century India seem like 19th-century England as the upper-class Indians barricade themselves from the lower.

Consider Rose's tirade in "Oliver Twist" tonight - "He had been thrashed, sir, thrashed and beaten till his back was scarred. A child. This, and worse, happens to children every single day. And we sit here eating soup."

But what really unites "Slumdog" and "Oliver Twist" is what we come away with. Jamal's victory over evil, like Oliver's, gives us a chance to breathe a sigh of relief at story's end. But it's only a breath. We know that, in the larger sense, the story isn't over.

The conditions are still abysmal, the disparity between rich and poor remains, people will continue to be tortured. Yet, amid all this, Dickens and "Slumdog" director Danny Boyle give us hope that personal and political change are possible. You might even call it the audacity of hope.

Barack Obama's "Who Wants to Be a US President" story also has its Dickensian elements. Even if he never experienced crushing poverty, the rise of a black man to the presidency borders on the astounding. And though the inauguration would have made a tidy ending, life goes on - the economic crisis worsens, Cabinet nominations flame out.

But perhaps Obama, Jamal Malik, and the new "Oliver Twist" all signal a shift. A year ago at this time, the favorite movies for the best picture Oscar - "No Country for Old Men" and "There Will Be Blood" - cast a totally hopeless eye on human events.

That's not the story we want to hear today. Dickens, himself, had to escape his own youthful experiences with the grimmer aspects of life in London. The success of "The Pickwick Papers" in 1836 meant that he'd never have to look back on those days.

But he did. "Oliver Twist" was his next novel, and it exhibits the two great characteristics of all his books - a passion for life, particularly people, and a determination not to forget the situation he escaped from. It's what biographer Edgar Johnson calls "the interwoven comedy and tragedy of the human struggle."

And that's what makes "Slumdog Millionaire" resonate - the realism along with the hopefulness.

I don't know that I'll be watching the Oscars tonight - I haven't been able to take them seriously since "Forrest Gump" won in 1994. (Now that's a movie that perverts the Dickensian ethos into Hollywood phoniness.) But I'll be rooting for Jamal Malik to win again. It's a time for his kind of audacity, his kind of hope.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 09:55 AM
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1. Like, The Constant Gardener, I'm really glad someone made it. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 09:58 AM
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2. great movie
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:15 AM
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3. Poverty for sale. No thanks.
I'm glad there were protests outside the actors' homes in India.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:29 AM
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5. Films like this are the only way most people will become familiar with poverty and the impoverished.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:47 AM
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10. I read that Indians are sick of the portrayals of Indians in poverty. Movies are escapism
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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 03:47 AM
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37. I understand Americans don't like to look at reality either.
Of course, if they had bothered to look a decade ago, the US and the world wouldn't be in it's current mess, would it?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 05:25 PM
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28. Yeah, I heard people were cutting off their kids hands in hopes they'd get chosen for a part.
"feel good movie of the year" all right...
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:20 AM
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4. I loved this movie...the writing was superb...
...this was an excellent story. The cinematography was breathtaking.

It was hard to watch the impoverished conditions, in which these kids lived. However, the movie
shines light on parts of the world that the media keeps hidden.

This was a movie about hope and overcoming obstacles; a fairy-tale story set in tragic conditions
that actually exist.

I'm pulling for "Slumdog" all the way. It deserves to win best picture.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:30 AM
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6. It also shows how good and bad luck are a roll of the dice. The world isn't a meritocracy. nt
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:32 AM
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7. Not me
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:45 AM
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8. me, either...
did not like it at all.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:47 AM
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9. Rooting for a movie?
Who cares? What do the ticket-buyers get out of that, some kind of feeling of vicarious victory?

Sounds like sports. :)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:50 AM
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11. I loved this movie and rooting for it to win but if it loses to Milk, I wouldn't be that
upset.

The harder choice for me is between Mickey Roark and Sean Penn. Both fantastic in their roles.

If Penn does win best actor for Milk, I think the lock will be in for Slumdog Millionaire.

My long shot for tonight, Melissa Leo for Frozen River. Brilliant performance.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:44 AM
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12. I haven't seen Frozen River
but it would be a huge surprise if Melissa Leo won. From what I've read, it's pretty much between Meryl Streep and Kate Winslet. I'm betting on Meryl but I would love to see Kate win. Melissa winning would add some excitement to the show....upsets are always fun. I think Mickey Rourke will win because everyone loves a comeback.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:24 PM
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20. I've seen all of the performances of the women and men who are nominated.
All of the women gave excellent performances but IMHO Mellisa Leo was Perfect. Very often the award for best actress is an upset and I think Leo can pull it off. BTW... Frozen River is on DVD and is very worthwhile seeing. It takes place between the NY/Canadian border and my son was up at school nearby. It turns out that one of his roommates lives on the reservation where some of it was filmed. The film is also nominated for screenplay.

As to Mickey Roarke....he Was The Wrestler...as Sean Penn Was Harvey Milk. It's a toss-up to me.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:45 AM
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13. I am ...... by far the best of the year
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:45 AM
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14. I expect SLUMDOG to win but felt MILK and THE READER were also
strong films.


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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:08 PM
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15. It's so ironic to me
that "Slumdog" and Bobby Jindall are in the news simultaneously. Hmmmmm....
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:29 PM
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16. SLUM DOG SLUMDOG SLUMDAWDY....is for me...
Loved it
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:47 PM
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17. I am - thought it was a wonderful movie
I watch a lot of Hindi films. I'm not Hindi but I do love the history and culture of India. And I'm a big Bollywood fan.

At the very least I hope A.R. Rahman wins an award. He is an amazing music composer. Very popular in India.
‘Slumdog’ Fusionist in Oscar Spotlight - NY Times 2/20/09

Here is an interesting story to to read if you are concerned about the controversy of the film.
The Real Roots of the "Slumdog Protests" - Room for Debate NY Times 2/20/09

This is one of my favorite Bollywood movie sites.
Why We Love Slumdog Millionaire - Bollyspice 2/20/09

Yes, the film isn't winning huge acclaim in India but I think some misunderstanding between Hindi and western culture is at the core of that. I don't believe that Boyle and his crew or any of the actors ever indented any insult. Also the movie was made for western audiences primarily. So it's not intended to be a Bollywood film.

Go Slumdog Millionaire!

:bounce::bounce::bounce:


Sonia
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:15 PM
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18. I'm rooting for Slumdog as well.
Loved the movie. Was hoping "The Wrestler" would get nominated as well, but hopefully Mickey Rourke will win for actor.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:17 PM
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19. I am. Finally saw it yesterday -- wonderful.
Milk was great, too, but I'm pulling for Slumdog even over Milk.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:35 PM
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22. I loved "Milk" so much, I'd like to see it win big. Such a wonderful film with a great message
for people too long persecuted. Sean Penn is terrific. His Harvey Milk is such a humanitarian, such a decent human being who wants to help his community and lift gay people up. I loved the entire movie, beginning to end, its direction, acting, editing, cinematography. It's what makes movies great.

More straight people need to see it. It is inspiring.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 05:17 PM
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25. I also have a soft spot for it because I used to live above the Castro in S.F.
Kind of in the Upper Market area; I was one of the few straight people in the neighborhood.

Still, Slumdog was incredibly touching and original. I wish they both could win.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 02:58 PM
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21. Iwillnevergiveup,
Please be aware that when reprinting copyrighted material, we ask that you limit OP's to four paragraphs or less and provide a link.

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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 04:17 PM
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24. Thank you.
Will do.:hi:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:46 PM
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23. Since this is the only nominated movie that I saw - so do I
though later we are going to see Frost/Nixon.

Interesting thing about Slumdog: while it is being presented as a feel good movie, I thought it was really wretched while watching most of it. I was thinking of similar slums and abuse in many parts of the world. And I was also thinking that this was no Bollywood musical..

(I did like Monsoon Wedding.)
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 05:21 PM
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26. It will win, but
I think Frost/Nixon should (of the five). Gimme that, Ron Howard, Rourke, Hathaway, Ledger, and Tomei, and that's a great night. Unfortunately, only two of those have a chance.

Oh well, it's just all in good fun.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 05:22 PM
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27. I'd love Slumdog to win
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 06:28 PM
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29. Okay, how about
Best Actor: Sean Penn
Best Actress: Melissa Leo
Best Movie: "Slumdog"
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 07:58 PM
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33. I like that too
:headbang:
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 06:28 PM
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30. Nope. Rooting for "Milk."
:)
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 07:57 PM
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32. Slumdog's GREAT but Milk..
I love Milk more. :loveya:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 08:08 PM
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34. "Milk" is so wonderful. If it doesn't win all kinds of Oscars tonight it will be a shame on the
Academy forever. This MUST be honored. I really feel it is essential that thismovie be recognized and honored for what it stands for.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 07:50 PM
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31. just saw it today
i'm rooting for it.

i wish the younger actors had also received nominations.

i want to find and read the book it was based on, "Q & A"

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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 12:51 AM
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35. HIP HIP HOOOOOOOORAY!
"Slumdog" the underdog has won.

And how happy am I that Sean Penn won, both with his performance and speech tonight.:bounce:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 01:19 AM
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36. Yes it was a good night
Sean Penn will bring "Milk" a lot more viewers with his win as well.

Congratulations to them all!

:woohoo:


Sonia
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