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Sun Feb-22-09 11:44 PM
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Damn it. Mickey Rourke got screwed |
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:45 PM
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1. Are you kidding me? Sean Penn so totally deserved it |
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:46 PM
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3. Did you see the Wrestler? |
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:47 PM
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6. Not yet and I've heard amazing things about his part |
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I just loved Penn in "Milk" and his acceptance speech was amazing!
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:53 PM
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11. Then its probably tough to judge who was the best then. |
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Im in the same spot, only seeing the Wrestler (Ill watch Milk this week). I just can't imagine anyone doing a better job.
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:57 PM
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13. I'll add Wrestler to my Netflix queue. I rarely go to the movies anymore |
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unless it happens to b something really really good that I want to see like "Milk"
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:45 PM
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2. I haven't seen Milk yet... |
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But its tough for me to imagine a better performance. I mean, Rourke was outstanding. Best acting Ive seen in decades...it blew me away. So, its hard for me to imagine that there were two lifetime, masterfull performances in a single year, much less a single decade.
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Mon Feb-23-09 01:44 AM
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20. I've seen them both ... |
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I couldn't be an academy voter because I would be able to choose between those two.
I saw Milk first and thought he had a lock on it. Then I saw The Wrestler and realized I had no clue.
Both were simply outstanding.
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Mon Feb-23-09 02:26 AM
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25. I went to see Milk in it's opening week |
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My quote after I walked out: "I know Sean Penn isn't gay, but for two hours, I forgot.". Sean Penn didn't play Harvey Milk, he embodied Harvey Milk. It was the best performance I've ever seen from him and frankly one of the best I've ever seen from anyone.
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:46 PM
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4. They both deserved it. Only one can get it though. |
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:47 PM
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5. Strong category. I thought Langella was incredible as well. |
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:56 PM
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12. I wholeheartedly agree, but I thought the actress catagories were a bit disappointing this year |
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at least for me.
Winslet was definitely the strongest, IMHO.
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:48 PM
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7. I have too much trouble with Rourke's politics...good on Penn for honoring him anyway n/t |
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:50 PM
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8. I dont think that should come into consideration when determining who was best. |
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Though I couldnt choose between the three personally (Rourke, Langella, Penn)
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Mon Feb-23-09 01:41 AM
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19. I admit my prejudice. Same as my inability to say Bush was good on helping Aids victims in Africa |
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it's painful
And Penn was wonderful and gracious.
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Mon Feb-23-09 01:45 AM
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22. Doesnt look like much of an inability..You just did! |
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:51 PM
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10. Wasn't the award for performance? |
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Screw politics...seriously. Watching Rourke seemed like watching a documentary. He was Randy Robinson, in more ways than one. I don't care who he votes for when I consider who did the best job.
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:59 PM
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15. Rourke was good, I thought Penn was better.. |
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and Penn had the bigger hurdle to cross. Rourke was playing himself to a large degree.
The Academy loves biographical characterizations more than fictional characterizations, so I'm not too surprised.
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:50 PM
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9. I agree, Rourke was excellent n/t |
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:58 PM
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14. Maybe Rourke didn't win because for him, playing a down-and-out actor trying to make a comeback |
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Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 12:11 AM by rocktivity
wasn't that big a stretch...
:evilgrin: rocktivity
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Mon Feb-23-09 02:40 AM
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27. He'll always have his island. |
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:03 AM
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17. Is The Wrestler movie similar to Beyond The Mat? |
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The description sounds like the second half of Beyond The Mat where they were following around Jake The Snake Roberts and he doesn't talk to his daughter anymore and he's using drugs and she is and he's just barely hanging on to his tiny bit of celebrity.
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Mon Feb-23-09 01:47 AM
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... but much better done.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:11 AM
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...sorry you're sad. He did get a lot of the preliminary awards, though (which will be great for his future prospects). So you'll probably see more of him now.
I won't comment about Penn in your thread mourning Mickey's loss.
Take care. :hi:
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Mon Feb-23-09 01:44 AM
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21. Penn seemed to acknowledge that Rourke deserved it. |
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However much I agree with the statement, it appears that Penn was picked by Californians to make a political statement about prop8.
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Mon Feb-23-09 01:47 AM
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24. Rourke should have won. |
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Milk was an incredibly fantastic movie, but it wasn't Penn's best performance. And we all know Penn will deliver plenty more Oscar-worthy performances.
"The Wrestler" on the other hand will always be remembered as Rourke's Opus Magnum, and he should have been rewarded for it, IMO.
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Mon Feb-23-09 02:28 AM
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26. Rourke was by far the better performance |
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Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 02:33 AM by JCMach1
I watched both films within a 24hr period and saw The Wrestler twice. Rourke's performance was even better the second time around. Two very different types of performance. A huge part of Rourke's performance was physical (not just the wrestling). There was much said with the body as with the dialog. It reminds me of Ledger's fabulous performance in Brokeback Mountain a few years back.
Rourke has just pissed-off too many people in Hollywood over the years.
Though Penn was good, his was just a straight-up character study (he nailed it though)...
I will probably get flamed, but I thought 'The Wrestler' was a better movie overall...
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Mon Feb-23-09 03:38 AM
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28. I feel bad for Rourke even though both performance were great. |
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This was his once in a lifetime role. I can't see Rourke getting another shot like this. But I think all this positive press will be good for future roles.
Sean Penn was awesome as usual, but he's already won (only 5 years ago) and probably will be nominated and maybe win many more times in his magnificent career. He's not even 50 and already has 5 nominations and 2 wins, ALL in Best Lead Actor. I can easily see him winning his third Oscar in his 50s. But IMO, this win really proves how strong Penn is in the acting community. BOTH his wins came in extremely competitive years in which he had to face off against a very strong rival (Bill Murray in 2003).
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