whatchamacallit
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Tue Feb-24-09 05:51 PM
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Ha, finally rented W - toothless, deadly boring, sugar coated lie |
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Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 05:54 PM by whatchamacallit
I know I know, ancient history... but really, wtf is with the Hallmark Biopic? I never saw it because I figured it would be horribly compromised, but I never dreamed it could be this bad. Thanks Ollie for portraying some of the most evil fuckers to ever walk the earth as basically decent, good hearted folks who took a few wrong turns and got a few things wrong :eyes: Piss poor revisionist garbage. Oliver Stone is the Leni Riefenstahl of the Bush Administration.
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Tue Feb-24-09 05:55 PM
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1. I was shocked by it. Too sympathetic towards a pretty vile man. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 05:57 PM
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2. It was so timid and glossy |
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that you have to wonder, why bother?
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Tue Feb-24-09 05:58 PM
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3. Haven't seen it, but it sounds like Stone has extended the |
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respect for "facts" that he displayed in JFK to his latest docu-fiction.
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whatchamacallit
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:01 PM
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6. Save yourself a couple bucks |
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Rent Ironman or the LOTR trilogy instead. At least you'll enjoy those fantasies.
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:57 AM
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14. I already own all of those on DVD. |
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I own JFK as well, but I can't stand watching it anymore as it's such complete BS.
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Tue Feb-24-09 05:58 PM
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4. Part of me wonders if Stone didn't want to risk ending up like James Hatfield. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 06:01 PM by Wapsie B
So instead of showing the evil inside him * was portrayed as a good old boy in over his head.
edit: A film like this should be an independent film IMO. I don't know if any major studio would finance a true depiction of *. I could be wrong.
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:00 PM
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5. I thought W came across as a lost village idiot... |
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being led by a bunch of evil fuckers.
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:05 PM
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7. Even the "evil fuckers" were portrayed as simply misguided public servants |
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:09 PM
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9. Cheney was portrayed as "misguided"? |
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I think it pretty clearly showed that he was a master manipulator of a simple dolt like Dumbya, and confirmed him as having "the final say" in everything that went down.
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:20 PM
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10. The grand plan has been in the works for 30 years, involving multiple administrations |
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Stone boils it down to one slide show with some maps of oil fields. I guess the closest this movie came to flirting with reality was Cheney, but even that was weak.
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Wed Feb-25-09 02:10 AM
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15. That's my impression. |
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Cheney was subtly manipulative - superficially friendly and charming, but once you saw what he was doing, downright evil.
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:07 PM
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8. dang,,,, now I'm glad we returned it ~ unseen. |
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We received it from Netflix and it sat there for a week,,,,
We decided that we just could stomach watching it,,,,
Now I'm just as glad we didn't even try :)
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:21 PM
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11. Your gut served you well on this one ;-) (nt) |
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:25 PM
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12. I thought Stone hit it just about right, Cheney always several steps behind but visible... |
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when the chips are down he steps forward with one of the most chilling geo-political acts of gamesmanship I mean Stone could have had little exploding swastikas all round Europe ala back in the day I suppose but if people are up on it the analogy was clear; then sliding back into the shadows beside a guy that the camera never registered till that moment himself in even darker relief like a palette full of sooty, dirty Rembrandt colors or Toby Jones as rat-slash-weasel Rove always somewhere he had no business being ear forever tilted; I adore Jeffrey Wright but his role as a Colin Powell - thee most wrongly placed man in the most heinous American administration was in key with Thandie Newton's Condi Rice snippy, pissy but ultimately as enablers of the white power elite scrambling for irresponsibility while their hands are still dripping with innocent Iraqi blood & purple dye as a W. himself enabled by filthy old Bush family money judges his encroachments upon The Constitution by how few pages he has to read between drug & alcohol addled spasms of clueless-ness was unmistakable especially in the final shot as he waits for the ball to drop down from the middle of conceited, self serving dream-scape but I'll give you this...
Oliver Stone is no documentation, he's a popcorn filmmaker :popcorn:
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:06 PM
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13. Yeah, I didn't want to see it. |
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Even if it was harsh. The only way I want to see those people on my TV ever again is if they are being investigated or prosecuted.
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