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Tue Feb-24-09 06:56 PM
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Ralph Nader for Commerce Sec. |
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Mr Prez, how about throwing a bone to the left. We're starving.
Instead of stacking your cabinet with Rethugs and centrists.
Mr. Nader has spent his life preaching change and warning us of our greedmongering and warmongering ways would catch up with us.
WOW, NADER HAS BEEN SOOOO CORRECT THE WHOLE TIME!
Imagine if we had listened to him 40 years ago, or 20, or 10, or better yet NOW.
Sen Gregg was asked to help enact change? WTFUCKINF?
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:58 PM
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1. only if he can run SEC, FTC, and FDA too |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:08 PM
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10. Sounds like a deal to me. =) |
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:59 PM
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:07 PM
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8. I am. Is it that obvious? |
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I am also for decriminalization. So is Ralph.
Peace.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:19 PM
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Did you support Sen Gregg's nomination?
Ask yourself that question a few times and get back to me.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:16 PM
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47. What Nader did in 2000 is unconscionable, |
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his life's work as a consumer advocate is not. He saved so many peoples lives over the years, it's incredible. Yes, he torpedoed his reputation in 2000 but he really is a great man. History, will be mostly kind to him, quite unlike Bush. But 2000 will be a forever stain, for sure.
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:59 PM
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3. Nader gave us GWB. No thanks. nt |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:14 PM
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19. Gore let Tennessee slip away. |
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That should've never happened. To lose his home state.
It's time to stop blaming Nader for GWB's stolen elction.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:36 PM
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33. Yes, he did. Clinton won it and Gore didn't. That looks really bad. I agree. nt |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:36 PM
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32. No, Gore's choice of Joe Lieberman gave us Bush . . . |
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Along with the Dems allowing themselves to be outmaneuvered by Rove in FL.
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:59 PM
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4. Put on your bullet-proof suit and deflector shields, Union Yes. But, I got your back. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:09 PM
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13. Thanks, me too. Peace |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:17 PM
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20. Everybody's complaining that Nader "wouldn't be a team player" or would "Go |
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off the ranch". Damn right he wouldn't be a team player. He'd be the one—ONE—person in Washington who wouldn't knuckle under to corporate demands, wouldn't budge an inch on workers' rights, wouldn't compromise with greedy Wall Street parasites...
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:25 PM
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26. Exactly why he would be perfect for the job! |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:27 PM
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27. He would Serve at the Pleasure of the President...none of think he'd actually do that. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:05 PM
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:06 PM
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6. Ah! A Nader thread that's not yet a Two Minutes Hate |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:07 PM
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:08 PM
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9. Ralph Nader wouldnt be....whats the word Im looking for...A team Player? |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:30 PM
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28. Trouble in Washington is |
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too many players -- in both parties -- playing for the same team -- the Corporate Team.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:33 PM
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29. True, but I'm speaking more for the fact that I dont think Nader could work for Obama |
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Hed want to forward his own agenda, and Not the President's.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:34 PM
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30. But it's no dumber than putting obstructionist Republicans in your cabinet |
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And Obama has no problem with that.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:36 PM
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31. And I havent agreed with the picks of Gates and Gregg |
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I thought a Republican should be in the cabinet, but more like a Chuck Hagel for Defense.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:39 PM
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34. I don't believe any Republicans should be in the Cabinet -- period |
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Bipartisanship means that you listen to the other party, you meet with them, you give them a seat at the table, you honestly consider their interests and their point of view -- and you incorporate those interests and that point of view as best you can within your program.
It doesn't mean that you put them in charge of enacting your agenda -- especially when they march in lockstep with the party bosses who got us into the mess you're trying to correct.
However, if Obama is going to reach out to people who disagree with him on the right, he should reach out to people on the left who disagree with him.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:42 PM
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36. THats why you choose Repubs who dont march in lockstep...Like Hagel for Defense. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:56 PM
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41. Sorry -- there isn't one Republican I trust -- not one. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:08 PM
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11. That's not a bone, that's a spit in the face. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:09 PM
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Nader has a problem working with others -- and much of the admin and Congress does not agree with him.
The purpose of a Cabinet is to push the President's agenda -- not their own.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:09 PM
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14. And folks were fretting about Clinton going off the reservation as SoS? |
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Nader's bloated ego wouldn't allow him to take orders from President Obama.
So, even if he was offered, he wouldn't accept.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:24 PM
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25. First thought that came to my mind was ur subject line |
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I chose to leave that part out though.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:10 PM
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16. He'd be perfect for the FTC |
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In fact, had Clinton gone that route- rather than joining up with the far right, we wouldn't be in this mess- nor would we have had 8 years of Bush.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:19 PM
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22. Great, So Nader Can Instruct Obama On How to Be Black, Like... |
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...He repeatedly did during the primaries by making repeated references to Obama's race, and how he was trying to act "white."
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:22 PM
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Did you support Sen Gregg's nomination?
Ask yourself that question a few times and get back to me.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:23 PM
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24. No I didnt, and I still dont support Nader |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:44 PM
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38. Completely Irrelevant |
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Not wanting Gregg does not equate to wanting Nader.
That's syllogistic nonsense. GAC
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Wed Feb-25-09 12:20 AM
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61. Curiously enough...repeating a comparison doesn't make a bad idea better. n/t |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:41 PM
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35. No, no way. Never. n/t |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:50 PM
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39. Thank you, but no thanks. n/t |
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:55 PM
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40. Nader has done many great things. Being friendly to labor is not |
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among them. Google "Nader union busting" to find out more.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:00 PM
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42. Crikey- who else do you hear calling for the repeal of Taft-Hartley? |
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Mainstream "Democrats." LOL.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:13 PM
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of it all, huh? ;) "Repentant Union Busters for the repeal of Taft-Hartley"
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:21 PM
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:03 PM
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43. he needs to put somewhere and its not in President Obamas |
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Cabinet I am thinking an island in the middle of the Pacific where he can't screw up any more elections for us Dems!!!!
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:06 PM
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Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 08:06 PM by mudesi
He's the reason Bush won.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:23 PM
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53. Yes, he's part of the reason and that will dog his legacy forever |
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If you don't know about the Ralph Nader before that contest, you are missing a big chunk and if anyone in your family has been in an auto accident in the last 20 years and survived, chances are, they owe their life to Ralph Nader. He isn't a one tune man, he just hit an awfully bad note in 2000 and it will go down in history along with the amazing good he did for the American consumer. You needn't worry, that stain will remain on him forever.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:15 PM
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46. not a bad idea. or head of consumer protection agenices like the FDA? |
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:20 PM
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48. I thought that was a bone to the Right ... |
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weren't they backing Nader in 2000? Cheering him in 04?
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:22 PM
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51. Nader has not shown himself qualified to hold any public office. |
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Even an appointed one.
He distrusts the voters so much that he won't run for a local office.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:22 PM
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52. No thanks, I'd prefer a democrat...nt |
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56. As a guy who worked at Chevrolet C.O. back in the "Unsafe At Any Speed" days ... |
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Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 08:30 PM by TahitiNut
... I think he'd do a very good job at Commerce. :shrug: Sue me, but I just don't get all rabid about his "political nonconformism." That's part of why I'm an independent, I guess.
That's not to say I think there's a snowball's chance, however.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:52 PM
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58. As Howard Cosell used to say, |
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"He isn't the man he used to be." I'd certainly like the Ralph N of his/my youth to serve in that position. But he only exists in our memories.
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Tue Feb-24-09 08:43 PM
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57. Too Liberal!! Too Liberal!! |
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God forbid the DLC and Blue Dogs be offended.
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:03 PM
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59. Nah, we don't need another union buster in there, thanks. |
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Tue Feb-24-09 09:05 PM
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60. Ralph Nader does not play well with others. Just ask the Greens. |
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After 2000 he unceremoniously dumped the lot of them.
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