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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:44 PM
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Umm. The automobile was not invented in the USA.
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 09:46 PM by Mika
It was invented by Gottlieb Daimler and Karl Benz in 1889, in Germany, unless we are talking about the steam powered auto, which was an invention of Nicolas Joseph Cugnot, and a product of France in 1771.



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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:45 PM
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1. It was NOW!!
haha
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:46 PM
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5. LOL we'll make
Daimler and Benz honorary citizens just for this.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:50 PM
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14. This is how millions of Americans get igorant.
It's idiocracy!






(yes, I know it's spelled "ignorant")
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:46 PM
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2. He was like Bluto in Animal House. He was on a roll.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:47 PM
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8. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? n/t
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:46 PM
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3. But old Henry Ford invented the assembly line to produce them.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:47 PM
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6. Something like 20 or 30 years later, yes.
And Werner von Braun brought rocket technology to fruition in America, dammit!
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:52 PM
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16. Using technology USA invented
thank you Robert Goddard
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:55 PM
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19. this is a basic thing about history
the credit of the "inventory" doesn't always go to the first person, but the person that did the most to promote the invention. In this case Henry Ford is generally remembered as the father of the automobile even though clearly he did not invent it anymore than Pythagoras invented his theorem.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:37 PM
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35. Ransom Olds got the patent
for the assembly line in 1901 and first used it to build Oldsmobiles.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:46 PM
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4. True. But it was mass-produced in the U.S. eom
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:47 PM
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7. Daimler, Benz, who ever heard of them, anyways?
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 09:48 PM by kwassa
:rofl:

Here is the first Mercedes SL 500

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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:48 PM
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9. Oh c'mon!
Yeah, we know, but the US found a way to mass produce it first. < slinking away >.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:48 PM
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10. Ever heard of Ford, he is talking of that little step of production
He gets it, we need manufactuing
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:49 PM
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12. Not disputing that, he just said that the auto was invented in the US.
A common misconception that a preznit shouldn't make.


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:51 PM
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15. Perhaps, I'll take those mistakes over bush's though
:-)
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:54 PM
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18. Impeach him then, it is a crime right?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:48 PM
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11. That lying bastard......IMPEACH HIM !!!!
n/t
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:50 PM
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13. Why on earth was that line necessary?
Makes the speechwriter looks like a poor fact checker- and it's stupid to include a false statement of fact in a speech that's emphasizing EDUCATION.

Sheesh.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:57 PM
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22. Because it pushes the right buttons
And starts a conversation.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:13 PM
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25. Maybe so- but it doesn't give me much faith in the fact checkers
and/or doesn't exactly engender honesty- whoch is pretty damned important after the last 8 years.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:26 PM
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28. Okay
I think it's an embellishment but it's not that far off the mark. Ford turned the assembly line concept into a profitable, successful business model. Because of mass production, Ford's cars were priced at a level affordable to the populace, thus cementing an industry that fed a hell of a lot of people for a very long time. Some other dude may have technically invented the car but it was Henry Ford who perfected the process.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:54 PM
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17. Call President OBAMA and tell him he made a mistake
8 fucking years of Chimpy and we hold this against him?

Yeah, we know, but who gives a shit.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:56 PM
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20. Nazi's don't count, patriot!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:57 PM
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21. Mass production Fords for the average guy
not just the rich like those in Europe.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:08 PM
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23. Everybody knows it was Huguito who invented EVERYTHING!1
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 10:10 PM by UTUSN
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:09 PM
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33. ROFL
:rofl:


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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:10 PM
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24. America invented the automobile
in the way that Hollywood invented the movies. The technology was there, but it was fully transformed by mass production, consumption, and its centrality in American culture.

Then again, he may also have meant that America invented the automobile industry, which is something I think he's said before.
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:19 PM
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26. i think he meant the auto industry
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:25 PM
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27. Shut up Otter. n/t
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:30 PM
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29. Umm, George Baldwin Selden of New York, patent number 549,160
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 11:02 PM by MadHound
Invented the car in 1878, patented (due to various legal obstacles) in 1895.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:31 PM
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30. Yep I caught that too n/t
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serrano2008 Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:51 PM
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31. Hey wait...I thought we only recognized American made autos as autos?
Therefore it was invented in America.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:56 PM
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32. Like Republicans are going to say...
'Americans weren't first.' It's unholy for them to even think that.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:17 PM
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34. I had the privilege of seeing one of these in 1975
The old man towing one on a trailer was stopped near the place I worked at, and started it for me when I asked about it.
Took him a few turns by hand of the pulley wheel and one or two "Come on, speak to me"s, but it finally ran.


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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 11:45 PM
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36. Didn't Cadillac get the current layout correct first?
Meaning three pedals, a gearshift and a steering wheel?
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