Can we criticize Jindal without sounding like fucking Klan Members.

[Lost in CT]

Good lord there is so much to attack this guy on do we really have to concentrate on his ethnicity.

Yeah I get it he has a funny name and dark skin.... gee lets break out those funny chestnuts....


Can we at least agree not to be racist and to not tolerate racism in others????

[Lex]

1. Haven't seen any like that.

[LynnTheDem]

Neither have I seen any such; and if you do, alert the mods.

[Bluebear]

15. Fire! Fire!

:crazy:

[Left Is Write]

62. You must not have been in GD:P.

[Patiod]

96. Last night there was a thread here about how the Republicans

were "off-shoring" the response speech.

Which sounded like an ethnic slur to me...

[valerief]

2. It's only one person with a lot of accounts. I'm having a tough time setting Ignore on all of

his/her accounts.

[hlthe2b]

12. If you know of a poster with multiple accounts....

You definitely DO need to notify the admins.... Forget "ignore" and type your notice to Skinner, Elad, or EarlG!

[Political Heretic]

28. Mutliple accounts isn't against the rules

:shrug:

[crispini]

31. ya it is. nt

[Political Heretic]

32. Show me where.

[Political Heretic]

34. Nevermind I found it. I was wrong. (runs off to delete thirty accounts)

Kidding. :)

[Name removed]

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[Name removed]

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[omega minimo]

56. LOL

:yoiks: :spray:

[valerief]

95. I'm just guessing actually, because all the messages are the same. nt

[HughMoran]

55. Yeah, someone is obsessed with Piyush for sure.

:freak:

[Idealism]

3. Seriously, making fun of his given name is tiresome at best

We elected a man with the middle name of Hussein, and we wish to be coy about Piyush?

[RB TexLa]

10. I'd say at best it's childish. You know behaving as a child behaves.

[ColbertWatcher]

71. It is exactly what the freepers do with Obama's name. n/t

[remedy1]

4. Sure...

As soon as Piyush starts using his real name.

BTW....what IS his middle name?


Is he really an American citizen?

[maseman]

19. Right

If Barack Obama went by Ted or Fritz you know the right would eat him alive.

[sandnsea]

5. No, it's payback

They did it with "Hussein", so some people are dishing it right back to them on Jindal and I say GO. They never stop at anything and prove the lengths they will go for power every single day.

[Fire1]

13. Oh, but, "we're better than that." (sarcasm)

[sandnsea]

23. I can never remember the name

Or I'd do it myself. I think it's funny and the nutsos who continue with the birth certificate garbage deserve it.

[BostonMa]

20. Fail

[ColbertWatcher]

73. It's childish payback for "Barry." n/t

[hlthe2b]

6. Comparing him to Kenneth on 30 Rock sounds like KKK members?

Huh? or Mr. Rogers? huh? :shrug:

[MadBadger]

9. Probably the slumdog comments.

[Lost in CT]

25. No that was funny and on target and did not focus

on his ethnic background.

[Stinky The Clown]

7. Sorry ... dint hear ya ... the dryer buzzer was going off ..... its sheet night dontchaknow?

[Idealism]

21. Dammit you bastard

I was trying to drink my beverage in peace! You owe me a monitor :rofl:

[Bluebear]

8. Welcome to DU. Why not alert on those threads instead of this tactic?

[jgraz]

59. Oh c'mon. Alerting garners FAR less attention.

What fun it that?

[panader0]

11. Where did you see that?

I saw the slumdog thing, but nothing really mean.

[Lost in CT]

22. the slumdog telemarketing thread and some comments agree with Tweety's "Outsourced"

comment.

Maybe I am tired but those were the first couple of threads I stumbled upon and the idea that we should use someones ethnic background as the springboard for attacks seems vile to me.

Esp when the target presents such obvious and odious flaws.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

14. It's much more fun to make fun of him for being a supercilious twit

who gave a monumentally condescending and shitty speech and for being batshit crazy.

[Stinky The Clown]

24. Wrong Wrong Wrong ......

Ron Christie has the supercilious twit market sewn up.

I'm sure you'll see it my way.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

36. Oh merciful Jeebus, I had forgotten about that

fucking waterhead. You are correct. But Norm Coleman has the supercilious asshole market sewed up.

[IntravenousDemilo]

97. Wow, if his eyebrows go up any farther, he's not going to look so bald anymore. n/m

[Gold Metal Flake]

16. Your concern is noted.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

17. Go away. n/t

[omega minimo]

18. I just heard him, didn't see him. Haven't seen any racist posts

:shrug: altho there's a bajillion threads about him, so.........

[burythehatchet]

26. Thanks, As an Indian American I've given up trying to counter it. I just chalk it up to

people having difficulty seeing how easily they fall into thinking in terms of stereotypes.

[Mojorabbit]

27. Thank you

I thought it was just me.

[enlightenment]

35. Isn't just you -

and I do know how to hit alert.

[devilgrrl]

29. Bobby Brady was in the klan?

:popcorn:

[backscatter712]

42. Or Mr. Rogers? n/t

[Sebastian Doyle]

51. No, but he is a Mormon.

And I heard his dad was gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Being gay, that is. Not so sure about Mormon anymore.

[MADem]

99. Actually, he is a convert to Roman Catholicism. nt

[rvablue]

30. I'm with you.....we can simply attack him on his winger philosophies, his obstructionism AND

the fact that he nicknamed himself after a TV show character.

I'm not liking what I see in some other comments. It sucks.

[truebrit71]

33. Calling him by his birth name (Piyush) makes us Klan members?

Wow...now I have heard it all.... :eyes:

[Lost in CT]

37. No

saying things like

"He is the epitome of a tela-marketer.... I was waiting for him to give me the phone number to buy jewelry!"

however is under the title slum-dog republican no less.

[sandnsea]

39. Okay, that says more about you

than it does about the person who made the post.

I saw all kinds of references to how bad he spoke, from shamwow dude to Mr. Rogers. And now a bad QVC guy. Where's the bigotry in that?

[Lost in CT]

40. Yeah I really read between the lines with that slumdog comment...

I'm practically psychic....

[sandnsea]

43. I referenced the comment in quotes

I thought you added the slum dog part.

[Lost in CT]

46. No that was in the title of the original post.

Sorry I wasn't clear on that.

I understand your comment now.

And I actually found some of the other comparisons quite funny and perceptive.

[U4ikLefty]

49. Excuse me, but where is that post now???

Did you bother to alert it to the mods?

[Lost in CT]

52. Yes but just a minute ago

The post is here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5127686&mesg_id=5127686

Maybe I am being oversensitive but this seems like a cheap shot that is both unnecessary and not in the spirit of inclusiveness and progressive thought.

[U4ikLefty]

58. So you decided to grandstand instead of taking the prudent approach?

By calling people KKK, you are calling people hate-filled racist who want to kill & burn crosses on people's lawn.

Maybe I'm oversensitive, but that seems out-of-bounds.

It seems like you need the attention.

[Lost in CT]

63. No I was just kinda pissed.

If it was only one lonely post in poor taste I could have cared less.

But I caught a couple of different threads in a row and honestly was a bit surprised.

Wasn't looking for attention to myself.

I was however looking for attention to the problem of using a persons ethnicity as a springboard for juvenile attacks.

Esp a complete tool like Jindal.

[U4ikLefty]

69. "Kinda pissed" and you decided to grandstand instead of taking to the mods

why?

If you weren't looking for attention you would have alerted the mods a lot sooner than "just a minute ago". Were you unaware of the alert feature???

Face it, you were wrong in making DU look bad (intentionally or not) & used the excuse of a few bigotted posts to justify your bad judgement.

Also, by calling folks KKK you are being waaaaay more insulting than the people you criticize.

[Lost in CT]

76. Yes that was my first alert and no I was not familiar with the feature.

As for your other concerns.

I think the sheer number of people on this thread also concerned about racism and ethnic based attacks makes Du look like a concerned place.

I really felt alone in my concerns when I posted above. Unsure if I was overreacting.

I am glad I did as it gave voice to others who also share the same concerns.

People caring about racism will never make DU look bad... it is those who commit (possibly unintentionally) racially sensitive character assassination that will.

I am glad the majority was heard and it is realized that such verbiage is unacceptable in a civilized society and forum.

[U4ikLefty]

85. You have over 630 posts & you never noticed that little "alert" in the lower

left hand corner of each & every post??? You seemed to know how to fill out your profile okay, but I guess hitting the "alert" button was just too much work...yeah.

As far as givving "voice", you do not run this site & the mods have not yet seemed to find it necessary to eliminate that thread from the site.

You did make make DU look bad by painting us with a broad brush, by calling folks KKK in the title of a new thread. How is that not character assasination??? There is no more odious a gruop of people than the KKK & you likened them to the KKK...OUT-OF-BOUNDS.

You may think it is your job to keep all DUers in check, but the mods have done fine for the 5 years I have been here. I trust them more than I trust your grandstanding.

[cherokeeprogressive]

100. Years ago, there was a HUGE disagreement here about a man in prison suing for funds to facilitate

his sex change operation.

There were literally HUNDREDS of posters who said if he "IDENTIFIED" as a woman, no matter what was on his birth certificate, he should considered a woman, and posters were bigots for NOT arguing that the state should fund his operation.

Last night, Mr. Jindal introduced himself to the fucking WORLD as "Bobby", yet last night and today there have been HUNDREDS of posts saying that it's okay to call him "Piyush" because of what's written (as if WE'D know) on his birth certificate.

Hypocrisy, racism, bigotry, or just plain old schoolyard childishness... YOU make the call.

[MellowDem]

38. Don't worry...

Bobby Jindal is Caucasian according to the Census, so he's in good company with the KKK ;-)

[fob]

41. You mean like spelling his last name wrong when there are a hundred

threads with the correct spelling?

[Lost in CT]

45. Fixed... and of course no not like that....

Look there were (and are) a few posts that took aim at his ethnic background. I happened to stumble upon those first.

As you can see above I wasn't the only person disturbed by the ethnic jokes.

Thats all.

[Fuzz]

44. I could go for some tandori chicken right about now

with some rice, yeah, rice. mmmm.

[devilgrrl]

47. I have some leftover vegetable biryani and naan in the fridge.

:loveya:

[truebrit71]

50. Lucky!!!

..dammit now I'm hungry for Chicken Tikka Masala...

[bridgit]

53. At DU? We just elected a guy with a middle name of Hussein, we've earned the right...

to be Kukla Fran & FarLeft :dilemma:

[Bucky]

79. Being Kukla Fran isn't the problem

It's the posters trying to be Ku Klux Fran that worry me.

[slay]

57. I hope I don't sound like I'm fucking a clan member...

Honey, can you at least take off your hood? :rofl:

But um yeah, maybe alert the mods is a better tactic cause 99% of DU members didn't say a damn thing racist about Jindal at all and now that your post is on the greatest page (congrats!) it makes the whole board look like we ARE all talking like that. I'm just sayin..

[Lost in CT]

60. Good lord I didn't recommend the damn thing....

FOR ALL READING THIS ON THE GREATEST PAGE

It was just a few posters who are probably drunk on boxed wine after an all night SOTU Address party...seriously.

Except for Tweety... no excusing him...

[slay]

88. LOL

Heheh.. I hear ya.. sorry if I might have come on kinda strong in my previous post.. I've noticed DU peeps will usually recommend threads that have to do with telling people how to act - I guess from fears of censorship. But you are right in that we (or at least you and I if not all of DU) do not want to come across as racists - mainly because we're not. :)

[1]

61. that could never happen here. ever, i have never seen that happen here...

ever.

ummm... no... ummm... i see nothing!

[d_b]

64. no

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1NoOOoaNw

[TankLV]

65. I haven't seen any of what you claim...

utter fucking nonsense...

he's a fucking REPUKE - and he's INSANE, an IDIOT, and in spite of his "education" fucking IGNORANT...

tell me where I'm wrong on any of those...

[AlCzervik]

66. Like calling him Gunga Dim, i guess that's ok because it still isn't locked and lots of people

think it's hilarious.

I guess Ethnic slurs are okay if it's a republican.

it's disgusting.

[jgraz]

68. I guess I'm going to lib hell, cuz that made me laugh.

Sorry, I'll just be over here at the re-education camp.

[Name removed]

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[AlCzervik]

81. he's not disabled but thanks for trying.

[Fire1]

82. The man's eyes are crossed. THAT IS A FUCKIN DISABILITY!

[AlCzervik]

83. it's only one eye dear and i'm not making fun of him, but once again, thanks for trying.

i'm not using racial and ethnic slur not would i ever.

[Fire1]

86. Why else would you have the pic on display?? What possible

message could that send? What is your intent?

[Maru Kitteh]

87. I guess the picture of the little girl crying is OK because her dad is a Republican

Apparently, in addition to picking on Cristie for his challenged appearance, it's OK to pick on little girls who didn't choose the public life of their Republican father.

Yeah, kinda hard to take the moral high ground with that picture in the sig.

[Fire1]

89. BINGO!!!!

[TexasObserver]

67. second that emotion

I've seen some posts over the line and clearly unacceptable in an inclusive world that refuses to guffaw at countries. No country's name or people is a punchline.

[Canuckistanian]

70. I didn't see any of that

I do remember seeing comments about his name, but only because Jindal actually changed his name to sound more palatable to southern voters.

[AlCzervik]

72. my persian bil adopted an american name stop assholes would stop harrassing him.

[Canuckistanian]

74. Both instances are pretty sad

Why is this necessary in the 21st century in America?

[AlCzervik]

75. because we have a long way to go.

[JI7]

80. it's NOT necessary , Jindal changed his to be loved by white bigots

and gave some shitty story about brady bunch.

say that he did change it because of racism, then he should speak about that .

[pot luck]

78. I completely agree.

Many here are doing exactly what they accuse the Freepers of doing to Obama. Racism is racism no matter which side is hurling the slurs.

[1]

84. no, fool. "i never saw that. i don't remember seeing any of that"...

get with the fucking program...

[Kahuna]

90. I haven't seen that and I hope I don't. nt

[Baikonour]

91. To question the motives of someone calling Jindal by his birth-name is one thing...

But to immediately jump the shark and start accusing people of being Klan members is another. In fact, I find the latter to be much more offensive.

[NNN0LHI]

92. Who in the fuck are you taking to? Hope it isn't me or we are going to have problems

[Lost in CT]

94. Okay then...nt

[saltpoint]

93. His communication skills, not his skin color, were what failed las night.

He had been heralded far and wide as the Republican Hope for 2012 and his performance belly-flopped.

[bdamomma]

98. Jindal I s on vacation now, maybe he realizes he really bombed out last night.