I thought Piyush Jindal's speech was excellent.

[remedy1]

Direct, folksy, on point. Told a nice story. Easily understood.

He will be an outstanding candidate in 2012.

I only hope Palin will run with him.

[Ediacara]

1. You forgot this:

:sarcasm:

[Sebastian Doyle]

28. and this

!!!!111!!!!!11!:crazy:

[Kablooie]

54. and this...

:puke:

[Earth Bound Misfit]

80. And this...

[EastTennesseeDem]

2. Me too.

Let's reach out to Republicans. If you've got those two together, there's no way we can win, so please, for the love of God, don't run them.

[Liberal_in_LA]

42. Masters of the political speech: Lincoln, Clinton, Obama, Jindal

[eleny]

3. I think, tonight, we all love him here

:sarcasm:

[dkf]

4. hahahahahahaha.

You guys are killing me tonight.

Damn.

[Bucky]

5. Thank you for not using the sarcasm tag as it is only used by morons

But drop the "Piyush" business. Xenophobic code language isn't part of Democratic values.

[OmahaBlueDog]

10. It's his name

..and just as our culturally sensitive friends in the GOP felt it was incumbent upon them to remind one and all that our President's middle name is "Hussein", I see nothing wrong sharing the Governor's rich heritage with America.

read: payback's a bitch

[Bucky]

15. I'll stay on the Obama side of this debate, thank you very much

It's smarter to speak the languages of respect--If Jindal wants to go by Bobby, I respect that. Dragging his hidden name out into the open is race-baiting and the sort of stunt you see Republicans pulling with the "Hussein" business (until they realized doing so was petty, pointless, and insulting to the public's intelligence--a point that seems so far to have eluded you).

If you want to get down into the gutter with Republican level ethics, have at it. If you want to play Sean Hannity type juvenile tit-for-tat school yard name games, have fun. Just remember that your president is kicking their asses by being a gentleman.

[emilyg]

62. Thank you.

[pampango]

83. Double thank you. n/t

[jemrich008]

91. Assisted Living/Senior Communities???

This looks like a good place to start looking.
Eldercare Locator
http://www.eldercare.gov/Eldercare/Publi...
http://www.calcpa.org/Content/24410.aspx

[DainBramaged]

86. Gumby Jizzdoll is a cheap crack whore for the GOP

[remedy1]

11. Uh....isn't that his name?

N/t

[Bucky]

20. No, he goes by Bobby. We don't have to race bait to beat these people

We win by being mature and respectful while kicking their asses. Be more like Obama and less like Limbaugh, please.

[remedy1]

21. OK, mom.

I guess I just don't see using someone's name as "race baiting."

"Bobby" did refer to his heritage in his speech...I'm not sure if he is an American citizen. Do you think he'll show us his birth certificate?

[Bucky]

22. You're welcome, Hussein

[Baikonour]

31. Not sure how it's race-baiting to call a man by his real name.

Piyush is his legal name. Bobby is a nickname.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

49. That wasn't the consensus when the repubs insisting on using Hussein.

[Baikonour]

51. But they were doing it to try to link him to terrorism.

I'd like to believe that the posters here, the majority of whom are relatively intelligent people, are not doing the same thing.

I see the point you are trying to make, and even agree to an extent. But I don't think anyone here is purposely trying to be racist.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

53. What about the poster that just called him boy?

[Baikonour]

55. If that's true, then it is wrong.

I'm not commending using his name for racist purposes. I'm saying that the majority of the people here are not using it to be racist.

Of course, there always is a handful of idiots, and I hope they are dealt with by the moderators.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

56. Post #43

[Baikonour]

57. Hmm. You're correct. nt

[EFerrari]

65. The point is, there is nothing wrong with the word "boy" just as

there is nothing wrong with "someone's real name". It's the way the words are used. Jindal chooses to be called "Bobby". That's what he should be called.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

69. Thanks for explaining. My apologies.

[EFerrari]

72. Oh, it's all right. I either should have used a tag or not done it at all.

It's my fault. Sorry.

[ConsAreLiars]

52. I think he really prefers to hear it pronounced "Bubba" if you want to keep him all happy. (nt)

[jemrich008]

76. How much can an assisted living home ask for a down payment?

An assisted living home can ask anything they want as a downpayment. This is no different than renting an apartment (the landlord can ask for any downpayment--i month, two months, etc.). The only difference is that you are paying to have your mother assisted in her daily living. Do some more comparisons of other facilities in your area (or your mother's area) to see if they are comparable and if she will receive the same treatment, assistance, meals, etc.

[backscatter712]

18. Sarcasm tags are for amateurs.

It's more fun when people can't always tell when you're being sarcastic!

[Hawkeye-X]

29. And Bobby is not his legal name.

He has NOT legally changed it from Piyush to Bobby, so I will call him Piyush as I see fit.

Hawkeye-X

[Coexist]

87. me too. No one here had any problems w/the numerous nicknames for Bush

yet using the man's real name is shocking and unethical?

Oy.

[leftstreet]

6. Welcome to DU

:rofl:

[OmahaBlueDog]

7. I'm personally hoping that, like many of his predecessors, he'll be under indictment

..because (contrary to popular belief), Louisiana, not Illinois, is the most politically corrupt state.

He's making the noises of a candidate now, but he's very young, and I suspect he may wait until 2016 unless Obama has become terribly unpopular by '12.

[4lbs]

12. Governor Jindal mentioned this in his response speech.

He said that before he became governor, Louisiana was known for having half it's people under water, and the other half under indictment.

[JackBeck]

8. You're completely delusional.

Just like the vast majority of the Republicans that voted against the Obama job creation package.

[RoyGBiv]

9. Definitely ...

Awesome candidate. He should run for President. It'd make me question my party affiliation.

[libodem]

17. yes, he's going to save us all the money from the stimulus

by not accepting it for his state. A fine and dandy prudent fella. I hope he doesn't take one dime and it backfires on his dumb ass.

[whoneedstickets]

13. Piyush = Hussein

It is beneath us.

[Fire1]

25. Speak for yourself.

[dkf]

26. Actually the equivalent of Piyush is Barack.

Republicans added Hussein because they were trying to convince the brainless folk that Obama was a terrorist.

[thewiseguy]

27. Piyush is his first name.

[EFerrari]

30. And lots of people call the president "Barry".

[thewiseguy]

34. Obama's first name is Barack

Jindal's first name is Piyush

Not sure how you get Bobby out of Piyush.

[EFerrari]

35. But lots of people call him "Barry". There's nothing wrong with that, is there?

[thewiseguy]

39. As I said Obama's first name is Barack.

I call him Barack. Jindal's first name is Piyush.

Throw out the nickname BS.

[EFerrari]

43. Right. The boy should just use his legal name, like Barack HUSSEIN Obama does.

Give me a break. The guy is a Republican. That should give you all the material you need.

ETA for the sarcasm impaired: :sarcasm:

[thewiseguy]

45. Does he prefer that people call him Bobby?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

50. The "boy", if a republican called Obama "boy" your head would explode.

[EFerrari]

58. Which is why I used the illustration, Dave.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

60. Okay.

Sorry.

David

[EFerrari]

66. And the person I was talking to didn't even notice

until you pointed it out. :shrug:

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

70. Then it worked out.

[Dorian Gray]

89. I don't think that

either should be ashamed of their names. Didn't Obama use his middle name when being sworn in?

The fact that someone feels that they need to change their name (or avoid using it) in order to be popular in the US tells us something (sad!) about the state of our country.

The idea that people would vote for someone because his name is Bobby instead of Piyush is mind-boggling to me.

[Baikonour]

59. Calling him Barry is disrespectful, but not racist.

I personally never will but Republicans call him that to get a rise out his supporters. Don't let them.

[EFerrari]

68. Yes, it is racist. It's a way to diminish him. There is no Dictionary of Racism.

It happens in context.

[Baikonour]

71. What's inherently racist about shortening "Barack" to "Barry"?

I'm not defending it. Like I said, I find it very disrespectful. I'm just curious.

[EFerrari]

73. It's a diminutive -- like calling a woman "little lady". It's a way

to tell a person you think they are "small" or less than. It's a put down of the kind that people of color get all the time since the more overt ugly language is no longer acceptable in our culture.

[Baikonour]

74. You are absolutely right, it IS diminutive.

But being racist and being diminutive are not mutually exclusive. Both are ugly and wrong, but not always the same thing, IE - you can be diminutive with out being racist. Which I think most of the DU'ers calling him by his real name are trying to achieve.

[nsd]

32. You're right that the motivation behind using Piyush is very similar ...

... to that behind using Hussein. It's to make Jindal seem "foreign" -- to marginalize him, to make him the other. And it's disgraceful that people on DU are doing this or willing to excuse it. We're supposed to be better than the freepers.

[thewiseguy]

36. So Barack is not a foreign name?

What you wrote is pure BS. Obama's first name is Barack and Jindal's first name is Piyush.

I have no idea why people come up with this BS and insist of giving these Western nicknames to people just to make them more acceptable!

[nsd]

44. Jindal chose the name Bobby.

He asks that people call him that, as is his right. When people insist on using Piyush, they're doing so because Piyush sounds funny and foreign. Pretending otherwise is the real bullshit.

Tonight on this board, we've had people use references to Piyush, Slumdog Millionaire, telemarketing, and Gunga Din, to go after Jindal. Why is that? I think I know why, and I think you know it too, unless you're delusional.

[thewiseguy]

46. Well I lost more respect for him if he is choosing a different name

I think it is rather stupid and very insecure of him to try and ask people to call him by a western nickname just because his first name might sound funny to some.

Pretty lame.

[Baikonour]

61. You think a guy named "Piyush" could get elected in Louisiana?

He's the one changing his name for political purposes, should we not call him out on it?

[noamnety]

81. Give it a rest.

He's been called Bobby since he was 4 years old. Must be great to feel so superior to a "rather stupid and very insecure" four year old.

Basic decency requires us to call people by their chosen form of address. People who refuse to do that deserve to have their motives examined. Those motives are rarely pure.

[Hawkeye-X]

90. They call me David.

And yet, it is not my first name. It's my middle name. My first name is symbolic and I was named after my grandmother whose name was Zelda.

And no, my first name is not Zelda. It's in the Bible, and I'm sure you'll figure it out.

No-one calls me by my first name, and I've always been called David since I was a baby.

People mispronounce my first name all the time when they see my driver's license. It makes me cringe.

I can understand the name Piyush may be funny-sounding name, but it's his legal name. Bobby is NOT his legal name. If he wants to be called Bobby, then make it LEGAL. I will call him Piyush because Bobby is NOT his legal name.

I know it's a contrast to what I just said, but think about it. Both my names are legal, and I don't mind.

I'll tell you one thing - I hate the name "Dave" - and only a FEW people call me that.

Hawkeye-X

[NYC Liberal]

38. It was bad because they used Hussein to compare him to Saddam and terrorists

Not because it was inherently wrong for them to use it.

[emilyg]

63. Certainly should be.

[Jack Sprat]

14. Yeah, he and Dubya are both folksy like.

In fact, so is Sarah Palin. Repubs like that simple, folksy talk. It kind of makes them swoon. Kind of like nursery rhymes at bedtime. The message doesn't have to include any content or a shred of realism. Repubs just seem to like good, old BS and a delivery guy.

[SmileyRose]

16. I complete agree. Jindal-Palin 2012

I'd donate money to Jindal in a heartbeat. And with Georgia being an independent primary state I MIGHT even ask for a Republican primary ballot to help him get the Republican nod. :)

[Politicalboi]

24. Ladies first

I don't think Sarah will take the back seat again.

[orleans]

19. LOL! n/t

[EmilyAnne]

23. Oh, honey. We do too. All of the negative responses you are reading here and seeing on the

liberal mainstream media is actually reverse psychology we are using on the Republicans.
I'll come clean and just admit it.
We are scared shitless of a Palin/Jindal campaign. They would be a formidable duo. They'd win with 80% of the popular vote, easily.
Steele/Jindal would be even more powerful, winning with 90% of the popular vote.
These percentages aren't just pulled out of thin air.
They are from actual, top-secret internal polling that the DNC has been conducting.
They know that Obama will be toast if he faces off with Jindal in 2012 and they just don't know how to take down such a political masterpiece.

[OmahaBlueDog]

33. Obama will just use ACORN to commit massive voter fraud, again

after all, that's how he won, that's how Clinton won. It's all part of the massive liberal media/secular feminist/neo-marxist conspiracy the Democrats have engineered to take our guns, close our churches, and force lattes to be served in McDonalds from coast to coast.

I weep for the youth of America

[Coexist]

88. Project X alumni are already all over this one1!11!

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Did you forget the sarcasm tag?

or I fear pizza might be on the way, sooner rather than later

[Grey]

40. But, what's his middle name?

Are you sure it's not something subversively 'muslin'?

[Bucky]

79. According to Wikipedia

It's "Piyush Hussein Jindal"

Damn, handling this guy without resorting to xenophobia's gonna be tougher than I thought.

[bridgit]

41. I thought Barack Hussein Obama's was like waaaayy better!!

And I hope Palin runs with him too

[mackerel]

47. Folksy to be sure but fell flat of the message.

Seriously the myth that lower taxes promotes business has been debunked. Credit keeps business running and more and more Reps are realizing that it's not worth even trying to hide it.

[bridgit]

64. Depends upon which end you're considering it. A tax, and lets be reasonable...

beyond a certain point it's less than a 'tax break' so much as it's an income redistribution/tax give-away to the already rich; but bush's first tax give-away generated some savings for small business, it would have had to by definition; but it was all keyed upon the more you make the more you take and what did, oh, say, Levi's & Hershey's do with their far more substantial windfall? Along with others at that level of 'take'? Well, they shut down their factories, chained the gates and flew off to China & Dubai. So clearly tax cuts increased jobs there, but more to the point did prices here go down as a result of the cheaper labor globalists clamor for? No. It was therefore all a ruse, a, as you say, debunked canard plus! - Americans lost jobs = a true lose/lose situation...

My husband and I operate our own bizz, we never seen a tax break. Seen our taxes go up! And never got that stimulus nonsense bush had last year never seen a penny. Others operating truly small businesses are able to balance a book or two at best, pay off some cards; but there'll likely be no kicking off new manufacturing facilities on that end of the scale. A dinner out at cattleman's, maybe some time off and that's it.

republicans make it sound like tax cuts will send people marching into fields shoveling mountains wheat & corn or machining new parts for brand new ideas and that's just bullshit

[Luminous Animal]

48. Race baiting = 0 recs. (n/t)

[Starry Messenger]

67. I bet you do. n/t

[Two Americas]

75. I call bullshit on this

I happen to know someone named Piyush - it isn't a joke, and using people's names in this manner is racist. You are mocking people based on their ethnicity. There is nothing wrong with that name, but there is much prejudice and persecution of Indian people, and much pressure to assimilate.

People have a fundamental human right to self-determination, and that starts with the right to identify themselves and use the name they prefer to use.

Your remarks are self-contradictory. I presume that you consider yourself a Democrat since you disagree with his remarks, and no Democrat should ever use racial slurs to make their point. Being a Democrat involves a little more than cheering on the team, it means honoring the principles and ideals that are the whole point of supporting the party to begin with - that should be more important than being loyal to the team. A political party is not a sports team, and being politically active takes a little more than being a sports fan does.

Far too many people here are more than willing to compromise on our principles and ideals, or even trash them, and then quick to badger and attack people who speak out for those principles and ideals, all for the supposed goal of expressing and enforcing "support" and "loyalty." Nothing could possibly be more destructive to the party than that is.

[MrSlayer]

77. How the hell do you even pronounce Piyush?

Pee-Yoosh?
Pie-Ush?

How am I to get people to irrationally hate him and question his citizenship if I can't pronounce the name?

:grr:

[Bucky]

78. like this

"bah - bee"       ;)

[Norrin Radd]

82. I demand to see his birth certificate!

[stray cat]

84. Palin/Jindal or Jindal/Palin - a scary ticket if they win

[Kablooie]

85. Actually he represented the GOP views very accurately. Congratulations Mr. Jindal!