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Wed Feb-25-09 08:31 AM
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Bobby Jindal has chosen to be called "Bobby" and nobody should argue with that |
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Unless perhaps you are more expert on what a person should be called than he.
That is his sovereign choice and it should be respected. Doing otherwise is equivalent to calling Obama, "Barry" when he refers to himself as "Barack" and it's wrong. The fact that some people in Obama's life continue to call him "Barry" is not an excuse for you or I to do so.
I would like to add along the same lines that when a mixed race person declares that they identify with one racial or ethnic group in particular (or that they do not), nobody else should argue with that because that is the sovereign choice of the individual and it is highly disrespectful to assume that you know what race the person should identify with --that you know better than the person themselves.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:32 AM
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:36 AM
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4. not really what i was talking about |
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:32 AM
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69. Can I rec this response? |
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:32 PM
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Dickhead Jindal has such a nice ring to it.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:33 AM
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2. I call him the exorcist. |
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:38 AM
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6. according to some, that is acceptable, just DO NOT use his name. |
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:39 PM
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90. Did you miss the user name amnesty? |
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:36 AM
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3. dickhead is what I call him |
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I don't like using that type language in polite company but sometimes I see no way out of it, this is one of those times.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:42 AM
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7. call him anything you want |
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just don't call him late for dinner.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:44 AM
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8. Then he should change his name |
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:46 AM
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9. that's his choice not yours |
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you've got to get past this. you are holding him to a standard you don't hold others to.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:51 AM
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11. What name is on his driver's license? |
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What name is on his birth certificate? What name is on his passport?
I'm betting that it isn't Bobby.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:55 AM
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15. i don't particularly care, that's HIS choice |
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unless he's doing it to hide a criminal past, it's properly his call.
i think of multiple coworkers of mine who do the same thing and how big an asshole a person would have to be to argue over what their name really is with them. that's not the point.
we are talking about what the man asks to be called, it's "Bobby". it's frankly none of your business why. just deal with it and respect it because many Americans do the same thing and for reasons that are good enough for them --and therefore good enough for me.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:08 AM
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18. are you saying that all the Chinese-Americans with documents should legally change their names also? |
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simply because they use an American/English name (nevermind that some may use it only in part of their lives and not in others but i digress).
are you saying that all those folks should change their paperwork legally?
are you putting this on them?
or are you just putting it on Mr. Jindal?
i highly doubt that you have more credibility to demand he change his name legally than he has to not change his name legally.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:38 AM
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He gave an awful speech last night that torpedoed his chance of ever being President and he shot the Republican party in the foot to boot. He did so much to torpedo any chance the Republicans have of gaining any ground anywhere. Why, oh, why, should you care what his "official" name is? Unofficially, it's mud, and that's really all that matters.
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Wed Feb-25-09 03:12 PM
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i go by my second middle name.
it aint on my driver's license or passport (actually the initial is on my driver's license. pretty sure my passport lists my full name).
and it's MY choice.
people call me by that name *i* chose, even my relatives, including the one who gave me a different frigging first name.
this is such a non-issue (his use of bobby, which he chose when he was a little kid).
I have no desire to legally change my name, nor is their a compelling reason to.
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Wed Feb-25-09 04:52 PM
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106. And your point is exactly? Who the hell cares? |
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there is far more to attack him on with his ideology
This is a non issue
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:36 PM
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128. Some people here are too fucking stupid to attack him on his ideology. |
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Don't hold the bar too high for them.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:45 PM
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130. I wonder what got into the water to be quite brutally honest |
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:10 PM
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111. what Is the presidents middle name? |
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didn't we just spend months ripping people like limpballs over this issue and now we are going to play the same game?
We ain't nothing but a bunch of hypocrites
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:51 AM
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13. If this is about choice, then it's a choice to use his legal name. n/t |
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:56 AM
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16. No, nobody should have to for a nickname |
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People use nicknames all the time. Most people, like me, seem to live their life without having to change their legal name because not everybody is usually so fucking gauche.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:47 AM
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10. Brings back memories of the Mouseketeers roll call--- |
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Annette!...... Cubby!..........Bobby!
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:51 AM
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12. I'm not crazy about bigotry or name-calling from the right or from the left - |
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It dumbs down discussion on critical problems and solutions
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:51 AM
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14. If anything this has spot-lighted some hidden racism on DU |
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Those people need to be informed that it is not allowed on DU, even if the target is the opposition.
A few more added to the ignore list alongside the homophobes and other assorted idiots.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:19 AM
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21. You need to get a thicker skin and stop looking for racism where it isn't |
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Like I said, it's OK for DU to skewer old white men and no one else? How racially insensitive of you.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:28 AM
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28. That's probably the guy who took MY job in 2001 |
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Stop trying to distract from Jindal's role as attack dog for the GOP by using his name as a dodge.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:31 AM
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32. when that other crap stops, i'll deal with Jindal on policy |
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get it to stop. be happy to call out Jindal on other matters.
in the meantime, the USA's record on race and treatment of immigrants is NOT good enough to let this one go.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:36 AM
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38. Distract someone else, I just stopped reading your crap |
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You need to find a new career and defend Democrats and not Repukes.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:40 AM
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42. you need to stop making Democrats look bad |
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something i'm trying to save you from doing.
thanks for nothing.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:41 AM
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45. YOU make Democrats look bad, deal with the real issues not straw dogs |
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now we are done. I've wasted enough time with your pretty bullshit.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:17 AM
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67. You're arguing with a brick wall here |
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102. Brick walls think better. |
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:12 AM
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66. "You need to ... defend Democrats and not Repukes" |
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Last I checked, defending the rights of an individual takes precedence over their political positions. You may argue that "nick name or not" isn't a "right," but that would be a very icy slope.
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Wed Feb-25-09 03:29 PM
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99. One billion people and you found the exact one? |
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Wow, you should play the lottery. :eyes:
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:28 PM
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85. No so hidden. And even when numerous minority DUers say this is offensive |
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the argument continues. It's disgusting.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:56 AM
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17. I'm in complete agreement with your post |
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This place is really a disappointment sometimes.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:57 AM
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54. Could you explain why? |
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:17 AM
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20. So, we skewered Chimpy and Gramps, yet you call out those of us who skewer |
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Governor Piyush "Bobby" Jindal the pre-existing condition, exorcist anchor baby who speaks like Gumby? All because he is of Indian decent? What, we should limit our skewering to old white men only/
How racist and distracting of you.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:20 AM
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23. i don't recall skewering of Bush/Cheney making reference or helping antiwhite causes |
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you cannot say the same thing of the mockery of Jindal.
make fun of him all you want, BUT steer clear of anything that would be construed as making fun of his race, ethnicity or appeals to xenophobia.
and for a moment think of the American cars you might wish that the nonwhite people of the world would buy and/or keep buying.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:23 AM
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25. YOU are trying to distract the members from his role as GOP attack dog |
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move on, deal with the issues, and stop defending the GOP front men from the likes of us who think YOU are skirting the issue by focusing on HIS name and making a big deal over it. And sorry, your reply was a dodge. if it's ok to skewer old white men than you are a racist in the purest sense.
And don't yout threaten me with your "steer clear" bullshit pal.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:29 AM
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really?
if you don't know the difference between mocking Bobby Jindal in ways that reference or make fun of the fact that he was born with a non English name and making fun of Bush/Cheney's names (which has nothing to do with making fun of their race), then you are an idiot.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:34 AM
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35. No I'm an idiot for taking your bait over this. |
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:36 AM
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37. I'm baiting you? On your 2nd post here you accused me of trying to distract from attacking the GOP |
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let's get real about who has been baiting whom.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:30 AM
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30. Where did anybody say you couldn't skewer Jindal. |
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Call him fucking Gumby for all I care.
But instead you try to be deliberately obtuse and use Piyush ass an insult. You are all about the issues, aren't you?
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:33 AM
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33. What ever you want to believe, and I do call him Gumby, I did a thread all about |
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Gumby and Pokey, Jindal and Palin, so look past your keyboard. And it IS a distraction. Period.
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You claim that the OP is distracting from the issues, and then you start a thread how Jindal and Palin are just like Gumby and Pokey. Now what problem with America does that have to do with? :eyes:
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:40 AM
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43. Make sure you write SNL when they do a skit on Jindal this weekend |
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Sorry I don't meet your purity standards. Go distract someone else we're done.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:52 AM
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51. Apparently you can't read, because I twice said I didn't care if you call him Gumby |
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:41 AM
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74. Do you call President Obama Hussein? |
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101. That reminds me...what is the MIDDLE name of Piyush Jindal? |
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Why would one call Obama by his middle name?
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Thu Feb-26-09 08:29 AM
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138. Okay...so by calling him "Bobby" we are being like the freepers... |
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who call Obama "Hussein"? Didn't we agree that was wrong? So it seems that the correct thing to do IS to call Jindal "Piyush" Thanks for confirming that.
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139. Thanks for being obtuse, |
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140. How's that petard fitting ya? |
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:12 PM
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113. More like reverse-racism. |
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But reverse-racism is still racism and your post is 100% spot-on. :thumbsup:
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Thu Feb-26-09 10:08 AM
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141. You don't need to be a fucking racist to call out Bobby Jindal. |
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You can...gee, I don't know, skewer him on his actual thoughts and actions. Or you can call him an asshole. Or whatever.
Why do we need to display racist behaviour that offends other DUers as well?
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:20 AM
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22. Technically his name is still Piyush - it was never changed |
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I mean I agree with what you're saying but it's not like he legally changed his name to Bobby.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:22 AM
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24. very typical with ethnic or non-English names |
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and nobody requires them to change their names either --nor should we.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:26 AM
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26. The truth is that the fact that people feel the need to use another name |
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speaks more about the society than them. And it sure isn't typical of the rest of the planet.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:42 PM
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129. Yeah, it says he likes to be called "Bobby" |
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If you think his ideas are so strong that calling him a different first name is your best recourse for undermining his credibility, then you're probably a lot more conservative than most of the posters here.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:32 AM
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70. Nobody Called Eisenhower "Dwight" /nt |
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114. That I did not know. |
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I may as well run around telling people my name is "Chaz Jorge Chang" just to appeal to who knows or cares why...
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31. He can call himself "Bobby" but he does so at his political peril. |
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"Bobby" is, IMO and probably in the opinion of many, just not presidential. It's not even gubernatorial, IMO. I would never vote for a "Governor Bobby".
Even Ed Rendell, who is called "Ed" by many here in Pennsylvania, appeared as "Edward" on the ballot.
I might vote for someone named Piyush for Governor or President (not HIM, however!), but I would never vote for a "Bobby" for any office higher than, oh, somewhere around dogcatcher. Yup that's about right. Bobby the dogcatcher. Hopefully he wouldn't have to deal with any pit bulls.
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My real name is Bobby. Not Robert, but Bobby.
But you do remember "Bobby" Kennedy, right?
Why are so many of the so called "Open minded" liberals and democrats on here such fuckin' assholes?
Stop acting like republicans and grow the fuck up and let people be who they want to be.
Criticise him because he's a dickhead, not because of his name or what he wants to be called.
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Wed Feb-25-09 02:48 PM
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94. silly Jimmy Carter -- no one would ever vote for him. |
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Fri Feb-27-09 12:03 AM
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142. Ouch yourself. "Bobby" Kennedy ran as ROBERT. |
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I am well the fuck grown up, thank you.
And I never mentioned the name "Jimmy".
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Wed Feb-25-09 03:15 PM
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cmon get real.
and jimmy carter.
how is bobby any different in this respect than jimmy?
some people really need a clue
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:17 PM
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118. Yeah, so buy one Vanna |
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vanna would be rich from them.
common name: ikaika kahoohanohano.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:33 AM
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34. Can I still call GW "WhistleAss?" - or no one cares cuz he's a white dude? |
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When the outrage over using Jindal's actual first name started last night I was kinda scratching my head because as long as I've been at the DU it's been a tradition to call GOP stooges by various pet names. Like Lumpy, Insanity, Shithead, Moran, Condasleeza, Turdblossom, and my fav, WhistleAss.
So other than the fact he's Indian (OMG), I'm unclear about why all of a sudden the DU is supposed to get all serious and call people by the name they want to be called. (You can refer to me as Matilda today, thank you)
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:36 AM
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36. I don't know either, apparently this guy is special. |
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:45 AM
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47. LOT of effort on old DU defending this guy |
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I am getting mighty suspicious.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:39 AM
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40. Look, if you are not going to think about this except in the most simplistic way... |
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then there is no point explaining this again and again.
you can call Bush and Jindal names.
you should not use any epithets that cast aspersions on them based on racial characteristics, stereotypes, ethnic origins, nor should you cater to xenophobia in the process.
got it? it really isn't all that difficult.
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49. I can't figure out how the guys actual first name is an epithet. |
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I really am trying, honest. Jindal is already clearly ethnic, I don't see how using his first and last name is any more xenophobic than using "Barack Obama". I really honestly don't get how using his name is casting asparagus on his ethnic origins.
On a stack of union cards, I swear I really just don't get it and I doubt I will.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:54 AM
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53. in the same way Republicans made use of Obama's middle name |
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to highlight stereotypes of him as foreign, unamerican, etc.
Some Republicans would say Barack Hussein Obama and highlight that middle name to encourage the worst in people about immigrants, Muslims, etc.
And that meant that we had to be careful about how we used Hussein that we didn't cater to that. It didn't mean we couldn't use it, but it certainly meant that we couldn't make fun of it without helping some nasty bigotry.
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59. I swear, you could take some of the post on here defending this and substitute "Piyush" with |
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"Hussein" and it would look like something straight out of FR.
Why shouldn't people use _________? It's his legal name. It's not an insult to use someone's given name. It's not my problem __________ if doesn't want to embrace his heritage.
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73. It's not the first time, the precise same claims have been made in both places, |
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in slightly different contexts. It's always sad to see it...
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Wed Feb-25-09 03:17 PM
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like in another post i made is that people are people.
repubs and dems are differentiated by policy/ideology.
not propensity to be myopic, silly, or illogical. plenty here prove that to me every day
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Wed Feb-25-09 04:36 PM
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100. I never saw a post making fun of or slamming Jindal's name or his ethnicity |
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:31 PM
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123. the poster who said they called tech support in India and talked to Bobby's brother Billy (sic) |
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and that "Billy" spoke with a heavy accent. :eyes:
The various threads that have been locked.
It's been out there.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:41 AM
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44. Was Whistleass used because he was white? |
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No one cares if you call Jindal "Gumby".
This behavior is absolutely freeperish.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:58 AM
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55. Exactly and well put. |
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Suddenly, the outrage???? What gives??? Jindal is an RW asshole who chose his name from a TV character ~~ making fun of that is somehow now racist?
GMAFB....:eyes:
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Wed Feb-25-09 03:18 PM
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98. making fun of a choice he made when he was 4 |
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:39 AM
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41. Thanks for your post. |
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:42 AM
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46. I have chosen to be called Jesus the Christ, Lord and Savior of all Living Creatures. |
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And when I run for president, I better not hear YOU calling me by my anglo name, buddy. (My anglo name is not 'Buddy'; that would be embarrassing)
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:45 AM
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48. I Think Criticism is a Lot More Effective |
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when it's not mixed with cheap mockery.
Using unattractive forms of a person's name is something Rush Limbaugh does, and it doesn't change any minds. Jindal's speech was miserable, and he didn't need any assistance in digging his own political grave yesterday.
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Wed Feb-25-09 10:00 AM
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57. If nothing else this has shown people's true colors. |
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Wed Feb-25-09 10:08 AM
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60. In a Sense, I Don't Really Care That Much |
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Political mockery comes with the territory. It just seems childish and ineffective.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:48 AM
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50. People call him Barry Soetero to point up his "Muslim" heritage |
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And they drag out the paperwork from the school in Indonesia that says he's Muslim, and that he was a citizen of Indonesia as a child.
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Wed Feb-25-09 10:00 AM
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58. And the are hypocrites, because Jindal's background is OK |
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with THEM. If they had a problem with Obama's, they should have a problem with Jindal's.
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Wed Feb-25-09 12:54 PM
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82. Most people don't fear Hindus like they do Muslims |
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Some right wingers might just dislike any non Christian, but the under current with Obama is trying to tie him to Islamic terrorists. While there are Hindu terrorists, they aren't as talked about in popular folklore.
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Wed Feb-25-09 02:32 PM
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92. True. There's that point. But then again, Bobby's citizenship |
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should be in question with them if Obama's is. They are in the same position. Born in the US with a parent born abroad. Especially the brain dead ones filing the lawsuits. According to their theory, Obama and Jindal are in the same position and neither is a citizen.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:53 AM
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52. I choose to call him "Right Wing Asshole." |
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Sooooo....can't argue with me, OK? :sarcasm:
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:59 AM
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56. Oh big deal. The right does it. And these are only message boards |
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Lets the freeps get a taste of their own medicine. Caving in never works. They'll just do it again.
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Wed Feb-25-09 10:14 AM
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Barry... Barack HUSSEIN Obama...
Remember that? Want to be like them?
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:36 PM
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89. Exactly. We are not freepers. n/t |
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Wed Feb-25-09 10:52 AM
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62. I think that I understand part of the motivation for calling him by his given name |
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It's that there is a perception that perhaps he wouldn't be a governor right now if he ran as Piyush Jindal instead of Bobby Jindal. But I understand that the change in name preference for Jindal occurred long before he ran for a state office. I see the point in suggesting that some republicans had an easier time voting for Bobby Jindal ("wasn't he a NASCAR driver or something?") than Piyush Jindal ("Whut kinda name is PIE-YOOSH?"), playing off the perception of the ignorant racist component of the GOP.
I think it's ALL pretty dumb, though.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:08 AM
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63. Just call him Jindal and then you can criticize him all you want. |
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:09 AM
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64. Agreed: it's his preferred nick name. Use it, unless you're a relative who absolutely refuses... |
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to recognize anything other than the given name. I deal with this all the time, as I usually go by my nickname, and everyone but my relatives respect that.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:09 AM
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65. Or calling Muhammed Ali "Cassius Clay" n/t |
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:32 AM
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68. He can call himself anything he wants. I just don't ever want to hear another Repug ... |
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... talking about "Barry" ... a temporary nickname Barack's GRANDPARENTS gave him when he was young. The Repugs mock the former "Barry," implying Barack was trying to hide his real name (and, of course, his supposedly subversive Muslim (make that "MUSLIN") roots :eyes: )
If Gov. Jindal can call himself Bobby, fine ... but it's PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA to you loser Pugs.
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Wed Feb-25-09 11:37 AM
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71. I am sooooo tired of having to make this point over and over and over again. |
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pins and needles needles and pins... ....
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Wed Feb-25-09 12:02 PM
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75. This is so glaringly obvious I'm amazed we even need to have a thread on it |
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Wed Feb-25-09 12:10 PM
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76. Did you complain when we called "George Bush" anything but? |
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Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 12:11 PM by nichomachus
Seriously -- we called Bush a hundred different variations of his name -- most of them mocking him, and people didn't get their DU-brand Knickers in a knot about that.
Why is Jindal all of a sudden above political mockery?
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:30 PM
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86. because people are using his given name as an epithet |
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and that given name happens to be very ethnically distinct.
and you end up making an issue of whether he can be called his american name "bobby" versus his given name. such choices are common among some groups and there are both simple and complex explanations why.
this is territory that was never crossed when calling Bush a "chimp" or calling Mitt "Willard".
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Wed Feb-25-09 12:18 PM
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77. Want to do something interesting? |
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Do to the little search box at the top of the DU page.
Type in "Willard."
Look in amazement at the hundreds of threads where people referred to Mitt Romney by his given name instead of his chosen nickname.
And yet, I can't recall one hyperventilating post, full of indignation, about how we should refer to Romney by his chosen nom-de-scum, rather than his given name.
Why is Jindal getting special treatment here?
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:26 PM
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84. that wasn't treading on any ethnic issues |
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it really does make a difference.
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:32 PM
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87. Do you seriously consider abstaining from ethinic slurs "special treatment"? |
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Wed Feb-25-09 04:42 PM
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103. You call his NAME an "ethnic slur"!!! |
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OMG, and you think OTHERS here are "racist"? :wow:
Check yourselves out! You are looney tunes!
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:01 PM
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109. The way it's being used, you betcha. n/t |
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:17 PM
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126. Oh yes, the racist horror of "the name game". You're so funny! |
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The '60s song by Shirley Ellis, that infamous racist person-of-color herself. I remember when this song was a hit on the top-40. It was an outrage, alright. Here you go, educate yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MJLi5_dyn0
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Wed Feb-25-09 12:34 PM
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and thank you.
note also that he changed his name when he was a KID.
bobby is the name he grew up with, and these claims that he did it as some sort of plot to hide his ethnicity is absurd crap.
it is relatively common for people (especially kids) with unusual names (by american standard) to choose nicknames.
the guy has gone by bobby most of his life.
i think it's kind of funny that he chose bobby specifically because of the brady bunch (lol)... but at least he didn't choose marcia!
:)
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Wed Feb-25-09 12:35 PM
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79. Why does she want to be called "bobby", creekpuppy? |
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:25 PM
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who let the kitty out of the sports forum? :wtf:
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Wed Feb-25-09 02:44 PM
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93. And cboy is posting in teh Lounge!! |
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Wed Feb-25-09 12:36 PM
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I'm sorry to see some here on DU sink to the level of Freepers.
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Wed Feb-25-09 12:50 PM
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Respecting someone's self-identification--by name, race, or gender--is the right thing to do.
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Wed Feb-25-09 01:33 PM
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88. Did you call George W Bush "George W Bush"... |
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Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 01:33 PM by Iggo
...whenever you referred to him...you know, out of respect for his wishes?
(EDIT: I typ gud)
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Wed Feb-25-09 04:44 PM
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104. I'm going to call him whatever I want to, but it won't be based in racism. |
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And if someone tries to tell me that "smeghead" is racist they're going to smacked. ;)
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Wed Feb-25-09 04:49 PM
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105. If he is so proud of his heritage and background, then why did he change his name? |
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I do not give a shit if he wants us to believe that he is really Bobby Brady.
Just seems so deceptive to brag about your past, and then hide from your given name.
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Wed Feb-25-09 04:53 PM
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107. I call him Pre-existing Condition. |
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I don't care what his name is.
Could. Not. Care. Less.
And neither you, nor anybody else, is going to tell me what to call him.
Truth is a defense to slander. There's a reason for that. Think about that, just for a second, before you go back to your ingrained political correctness.
Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush. Piyush.
The more it's criticized, the more it will be done. Because dictating what people can say, or think, is the issue.
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:07 PM
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110. You deserve the Community Builder Award on this thread! |
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:16 PM
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117. Thanks, free speech is an old-fashioned art form. |
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120. You join some very old and revered organizations that fiercely protect |
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Wed Feb-25-09 07:57 PM
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124. Is this more innuendo-building from you? Oh no, YOU wouldn't stoop to that, would you? |
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Oh, I forgot - unless I'm "ethnic", anything goes.
You can knock off the supposing me into organizations you imagine, along with deciding my feelings for me. See, this what I mean - impulses to edit someone else's opinions and words are indicative of a controling nature. What do we call that again? Oh yeah, fascist.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:46 PM
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131. "Unless I'm ethnic anything goes." |
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I don't have to edit anything. You're right out there.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:08 PM
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133. Really? You don't say! You mean, posting is VISIBLE. Oh shit! |
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I never knew that. Darn it!
But you are the one hiding. You still have not answered why an ethnic name is a slur. Except that you say so.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:10 PM
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134. 10 times at minimum. But, if you keep claiming not to know |
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you should be good for now.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:33 PM
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136. I watched you fail to answer that to another person too. You're full of it. |
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Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 10:08 PM by Waiting For Everyman
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:28 PM
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122. who is denying anyone's free speech? |
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in this country people have a right to say things that make asses of themselves and harm other people's feelings.
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Some here think they can cause people to self-censor by "throwing their weight around". I'm simply saying I won't play that.
But we aren't talking about harming the feelings of anyone here. This is about borrowing the supposed hurt of someone no one here knows. And on the premise that an ethnic name is a slur - I reject that argument completely, as the most racist assertion I've seen in ages.
But that's my opinion, and it's as valid as anyone else's. (The other side doesn't acknowledge the same tolerance. But THEY'RE the only ones who are tolerant. By their definition, of course.)
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Wed Feb-25-09 04:54 PM
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108. What's his name is apparently a lying sack of crap. |
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the sheriff thing never happened.
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But his surname is still a massive typo for "Jingo", because that's all he ever says in public.
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:14 PM
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115. Why is it his "sovereign choice?" |
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Wed Feb-25-09 05:25 PM
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121. The right to control one's own person |
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that person has the most say over what they should be called.
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144. Wrong, the person doing the calling has the most say. |
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If the whiners don't like it then they can get up on their high-horse & defend repub sellouts.
This is why people hate Democrats...because of whiny little shits.
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My own name is one that is often shortened to one of several nicknames. I choose not to use them and go by the longer name. It's my name; my decision.
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Wed Feb-25-09 08:50 PM
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132. Ok this is just silly |
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He never changed his name legally. Which tells me he still embraces his name and cultural. He most likely goes by Bobby because he lives in the South and most Southerns would have difficulty pronouncing his name. I live in the south and have worked with many IT professionals from India and some of them shorten their names just to make it easier to pronounce. There may even be some cultural reasons he goes by Bobby. It does not change the fact that his name is Piyush.
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Wed Feb-25-09 09:11 PM
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135. Asshole suits him just fine. |
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Fri Feb-27-09 12:16 AM
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143. He can call himself Irene if he wants.. It's sad he feels the need to grovel in Republicanville, |
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Fri Feb-27-09 02:20 AM
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145. it's only fair to use it one instance |
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as a rebuttal when someone rightwing jack-off starts that "Hussein" crap
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Fri Feb-27-09 02:29 AM
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146. You know the silliest thing about this? |
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Piyush is the BEST thing he'll be called. Anything else said about him will be a LOT worse than that. Especially here.
This controversy is rather ironic, then, isn't it?
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