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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:21 AM
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So far I'm very pleased with new Safari browser...much faster than IE or FF
and more elegant interface.

:bounce:
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:24 AM
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1. And this is GD:Presidential material, how?
Oh yeah, techie-related circle-jerks are ALWAYS appropriate. :shrug:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:25 AM
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2. OK... I hereby recommend that Barack Obama adopt the new Safari Browser...
:rofl:
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:26 AM
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4. LOL - that's not a bad save.
I love they way you took my too-late-night curmudgeonality lightly. Thanks! :hi:
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:23 AM
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33. K&R for quick thinking!
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:26 AM
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3. God you are such a dick.
I swear, every time there's some completely asshole post, I'm like what the hell... oh its small AGAIN.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:27 AM
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5. I thought that was me.
:P
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:27 AM
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6. Always nice to meet a fan!
:hi:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:42 AM
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30. Had to go to "printer mode" to cipher out the "Ignored"
Yep, Political Heretic, you describe the poster to a tee.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:33 AM
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36. I can outdick anyone here.
.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:42 AM
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39. Where's my tape measure?


:rofl:
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:44 AM
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40. Inches? how pedestrian.
I'm metric all the way.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:29 AM
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43. This is 'murica son...we don't use that sissy meteric systum heah...
:rofl:
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:41 PM
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48. Hey, THEM'S FIGHTING WORDS!!!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:08 PM
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46. LOL
+1
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:22 AM
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24. WRONG!!! The Obama's are a Mac family, this is therefore presidential.
There on the desk is her black MacBook...

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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:29 AM
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7. a more elegant interface,
does that mean it doesn't look like Disney designed it?
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:36 AM
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8. What version of OSX does it require?
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:37 AM
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10. I'm running Windows XP SP3.
I assume it will run under OS/X v 10.4 or better.

Doug D.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:15 AM
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23. OSX 10.4.11 or better
Macintosh Requirements
Any Mac running Security Update 2009-001 and Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.6 or Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11
Mac with an Intel processor or a Power PC G5, G4, or G3 processor and built-in FireWire®
256MB of RAM
Top Sites and Cover Flow on Mac OS X Tiger require a Quartz-Extreme compatible video card. More details

http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:36 AM
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9. Good summation of mac snobs...
"...it amazes me, absolutely amazes me, the number of Apple owners who lack the clarity or self-awareness to realize that purchasing a commodity from a enormous, soulless corporation that is also owned by several million other people doesn’t make you a unique and beautiful snowflake. Apple has a better PR campaign, better advertising and a more gullible, credulous customer base."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/02/im-a-mac.html
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:39 AM
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11. OK but I'm hardly a "Mac Snob"... I'm running the new Safari under Windows XP SP3...
and don't own a Mac.

If you could just buy the O/S X operating system and drop it on whatever box you want then I would probably do it.

Right now I'm looking at setting up an alternate boot on FreeBSD for my laptop.

Doug D.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:40 AM
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12. but but but
Nobody is purchasing Safari, it's free.
And it's available for Mac or Windows.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:00 AM
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19. pptht.
I'm sitting at a 9 year old Mac running contemporary software. It cost about $2k new, and I've applied about $500, maybe $600 in 9 yrs of hw upgrades to maxx out the system. No viruses, and it's a workhorse. Complete w/ a superb sound program.

So let's give it about $3k in 9 years. that's less than $350/year. It just keeps going. It's like a Honda or something.


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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:04 AM
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21. I use both PCs and macs, but except for a couple very high end Toshiba Tecras
My macs are the only laptops that survive the rigors of use, like drops to the floor.

The user interface on all their products is really user friendly to me.

And, while I've had to send things into the shop, I've never had viruses or spyware or creepy OS problems with the mac.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:43 AM
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13. does it have the tabs?
I must have the tabs.

Thx.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:44 AM
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14. Something is wrong with your new Safari browser though...
because when you clicked on "Lounge" to write your post, your browser took you to General Discussion: Presidential.

You might want to uninstall that POS ASAP!!!
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:45 AM
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15. Oh waaaa!!! Quite being a crybaby...
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:53 AM
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17. Dude, does Safari even have a grammar checker?
:rofl: I'll *quite* being a crybaby as soon as you switch back to Firefox!!!
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:49 AM
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16. Wrong forum Yes, but don't be dicks
I run it on Vista, IE was locking the computer up once a day. Since I switched to Safari no issues.

So, anyone commenting on Apple toys can shove it straight up their arse!
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busybl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:37 AM
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29. what IS wrong with that miserable IE anyway?
locks up or turns itself off many times during the day. I've stopped using it.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:00 AM
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18. SCREEN CAPS here....it is awsome...
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:02 AM
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20. Wow
That looks pretty sweet.

Never gonna go true-Mac, but I may make a multi-boot Hackintosh later this year.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:05 AM
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22. Hackintosh!
:rofl:

Your new avatar is stunning!!! :hi:

Kinda miss blago, tho.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:25 AM
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25. I'm Series!!1!
Edited on Thu Feb-26-09 01:26 AM by PBS Poll-435
I have a AMD Socket 1207 2 processor board just laying around. I was thinking of making a Hackintosh workstation with a couple of quad-cores. I just have to wait for ATI to release a 3870 X 2 driver for the Mac.


I will let you know how it goes... :hi:





And the avatar was HELL. Two or three tries to make it work.
Sadly, Governor Jindal is no where near as photogenic as former-Governor Blagojevich.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:38 AM
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26. Please do let me know, I love to tinker, but not with 'puters.
I am, however, waiting on some high-end leds with which I plan to build a crazy powerful flashlight and a bright floorlamp.

And no, Jindal is just goofy looking, while Blago is at one evil looking AND kinda cute, in a Bobby Sherman way. :P
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:48 AM
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28. Check out THESE LED's...
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:19 AM
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31. Very cool...they use 110VAC, looks like the heat sink is integral. I haven't seen these.
I'm using these in some prototype task lighting.

400 lumen:


2200 lumen:



Manufacturer: BRIDGELUX
Newark Part Number: 45P5611
Manufacturer Part No: BXRA-C2000-00000
LED Array
LED Color:Cool White
Luminous Intensity:2200lm
Viewing Angle:120°
Forward Current:1750mA
Forward Voltage:16.6V
Operating Temperature Range:-40°C to +105°C

http://www.bridgelux.com/products/ledarray.html

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:39 AM
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37. Be CAREFUL to include a current limiting resistor in your design!
A lot of people make that mistake and blow up their expensive super-bright LED - they don't realize that if you aren't careful the thing looks like a big short circuit to a power source.

There is going to be a small forward voltage drop across the LED which you will need to subtract out and then to get the current across your LED right you will need to limit the current through the circuit to whatever the maximum current allowed is via an Ohm's law calculation (V=IR).

So for example if you have a 12 volt drop potential across your power source and a 120 Ohm limiting resistor it will pull about 100mA - you will have to consult your LED's spec sheet to find out what the maximum continuous current draw is. Also the higher you drive them the shorter they live. Instead of getting 100,000 hours out of them you might end up getting 4,000 hours.

Also be careful to calculate the power dissapation across your limiting resistor to make sure you pick a large enough resistor power wise.

One trick you can do to increase efficiency is to string multiple LED's in series (so less power overall gets dissipated by the limiting resistors) but you still ought to use one limiting resistor per series string of LED's to protect them all.

Finally make sure you heat sink both the LED and the resistor and keep them isolated from curious fingers because sooner or later someone will burn themselves on it if you are running it to the limit.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:31 AM
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44. Thanks for the detailed advice.
They just arrived, but this is a project that, as you suggest, is going to take some care.
Both mfgrs. provide great detailed spec sheets for resistor use.

I'll take my time.

cheers! :hi:
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 01:43 AM
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27. Does anyone even USE Internet Explorer anymore? It is soooo "aol".
it's teh suck.

:hide:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:22 AM
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32. what makes it better than firefox?
Just curious. I tried Chrome last week but it ran too slow. Pages would lag when you close them, and do that really slow downward motion thing when exiting.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:28 AM
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34. much faster than any browser I've seen including FF, IE, and previous versions of Safari.
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buzzycrumbhunger Donating Member (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:29 AM
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35. Safari is damned zippy in comparison to FF
They've made it look more like iTunes with the cover flow and now that I've finally taken the time to find an ad block add-on for Safari, I think it's worth the move.

Sadly, I've discovered that it totally screws up the dumb Shockwave games and I can't waste my time on JewelQuest now. (I'm not even going to attempt a presidential tie-in here. . . :P)
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 10:40 AM
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38. Link to ad-block add in please?
That's the one thing missing from Safari that I liked about FF.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:16 AM
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42. I'm looking for the same thing.
Edited on Thu Feb-26-09 11:19 AM by New Earth
I found this, http://opindian.com/blog/2009/02/25/adblock-solution-for-safari-4-windows-and-mac/

I don't think it's working though.

Also, when I clink a link that I want to open in a new tab, it opens in a new window. Anyone know how to change that?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 11:14 AM
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41. Can't get an ad blocker to work. This sucks.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:04 PM
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45. It seems to work fine for me and was easier to install than the FF adblocker.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:10 PM
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47. I like it, but wonder about it's security.
I've heard a couple things about that. Until I know more I'm not using it for very much.

Other than that it would just be a matter of getting used to it.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 12:49 PM
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49. Not extensible = I'm not interested.
Safari isn't a bad browser by any means, but the lack of extensibility is what really kills it for me.

Even on my Macbook, I use Firefox, since the public beta of 3.1 supports multitouch.
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