The universe has a center (Hint: it could be earth)

[thewiseguy]

Our solar system appears to be near the center of the universe. Galaxies look the same, and are moving away from us in the same way, in all directions. The cosmic microwave background radiation comes to us very uniformly from all directions. These and other data strongly indicate we are located at a very special location by design.

Instead of accepting the obvious, recent models of physical cosmology assume the earth is not special and that everywhere in the universe the exact same observation of receding objects would be seen. Instead of a universe with an age measured in thousands of years, this assumption leads to billions of years.

http://www.icr.org/universe-center/

:rofl: :spray:

[dorkulon]

1. Are these people actually devolving?

I guess that could explain some things.

[silverweb]

2. Ignorance should be painful.

Very painful.

:crazy:

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[tanngrisnir3]

4. ...

[rurallib]

5. And you can get this information free! How about this?

http://www.icr.org/recent-universe/
The Universe Was Created Recently

The universe is only several thousand years old.

Comets are an example of a natural clock within our solar system. With each orbit around the sun, comets lose considerable mass. They cannot be very old because they cannot survive many orbits.

To get around this problem, many astronomers assume there is a vast cloud of comets out near the edge of the solar system, which releases new comets every so often. This imaginary cloud is called the "Oort Cloud," named after the astronomer who proposed it. The problem is that there is no observational evidence such a cloud exists at all.

Each year our knowledge of astronomy increases with new evidence concerning the origin of our solar system, our galaxy, and our universe. While it is possible to make assumptions beyond what can be observed and verified, the heavens continue to bear witness to recent creation.
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[thewiseguy]

7. No observational evidence?

Comes from the same bunch who believe in hell, heaven, and god.

[rurallib]

14. BUT IT'S ON THE INNER-TUBES!

[Warren DeMontague]

24. "These crack rocks we smoke at the Institute for Creation Research get smaller every day"

"therefore, the Universe MUST be young!"

[Jamastiene]

6. You can't make this shit up.

I don't know whether to :rofl: or :cry:

[Tom Kitten]

8. Drat! Another long held belief deconstructed!

Here I had always thought Oa, planetary citadel of the Guardians of the Universe and the headquarters of the Green Lantern Corps was the center of the universe!

[VOX]

9. Banging incessantly on a drum and chanting every December 21 will make the sun come back!

This repeated denial and refuting of genuine, peer-reviewed science is disturbing.

One other thing -- if the universe is infinite, you could say that the Earth is indeed at the center. So is Mars. So is the Andromeda Galaxy.

Aren't these new dark-age people supposed to be whisked away their sky-god? Can the date on that event be moved up? :nuke:

[eShirl]

10. soon they will want a Flat Earth theory given equal time in Earth Science class

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. the "theory of gravity" is flawed-

"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.

Burdett added: "Gravity—which is taught to our children as a law—is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

Founded in 1987, the ECFR is the world's leading institution of evangelical physics, a branch of physics based on literal interpretation of the Bible.

According to the ECFR paper published simultaneously this week in the International Journal Of Science and the adolescent magazine God's Word For Teens!, there are many phenomena that cannot be explained by secular gravity alone, including such mysteries as how angels fly, how Jesus ascended into Heaven, and how Satan fell when cast out of Paradise.

The ECFR, in conjunction with the Christian Coalition and other Christian conservative action groups, is calling for public-school curriculums to give equal time to the Intelligent Falling theory. They insist they are not asking that the theory of gravity be banned from schools, but only that students be offered both sides of the issue "so they can make an informed decision."

"We just want the best possible education for Kansas' kids," Burdett said.

Proponents of Intelligent Falling assert that the different theories used by secular physicists to explain gravity are not internally consistent. Even critics of Intelligent Falling admit that Einstein's ideas about gravity are mathematically irreconcilable with quantum mechanics. This fact, Intelligent Falling proponents say, proves that gravity is a theory in crisis.

"Let's take a look at the evidence," said ECFR senior fellow Gregory Lunsden."In Matthew 15:14, Jesus says, 'And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.' He says nothing about some gravity making them fall—just that they will fall. Then, in Job 5:7, we read, 'But mankind is born to trouble, as surely as sparks fly upwards.' If gravity is pulling everything down, why do the sparks fly upwards with great surety? This clearly indicates that a conscious intelligence governs all falling."

Critics of Intelligent Falling point out that gravity is a provable law based on empirical observations of natural phenomena. Evangelical physicists, however, insist that there is no conflict between Newton's mathematics and Holy Scripture.

"Closed-minded gravitists cannot find a way to make Einstein's general relativity match up with the subatomic quantum world," said Dr. Ellen Carson, a leading Intelligent Falling expert known for her work with the Kansan Youth Ministry. "They've been trying to do it for the better part of a century now, and despite all their empirical observation and carefully compiled data, they still don't know how."

"Traditional scientists admit that they cannot explain how gravitation is supposed to work," Carson said. "What the gravity-agenda scientists need to realize is that 'gravity waves' and 'gravitons' are just secular words for 'God can do whatever He wants.'"


I thought you got the article from this site:


http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512

[enlightenment]

12. These people breed.

THAT is the most frightening part.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Graphic's nice, I wonder where else have I seen it before?

http://www.nbos.com/products/astro/astro.htm

Oh that is a gaming product, not an astronomy site

That said, you can use the actual catalogs to create your universes, I do

[chollybocker]

15. Key words: "by design."

No further reading required.

[TahitiNut]

16. Their ignorance of relativity (and the expanding Universe) is abysmal.

:puke:

[ColbertWatcher]

17. I got the center of the universe right here ...

[Pharlo]

18. Yet more proof these idiots want to drag us back to the Dark Ages:

Trying to prove Copernican Law because Galileo was a heretic.

[mtnester]

19. Dark Ages?

Hell, they want the Stone Age at least (oh wait, maybe we did not exist then per them)

Well then they want the Ice Age (oh wait again)

[radfringe]

20. something to think about.....

If the universe is infinite - then there is no center

If the universe is not infinite - what's on the other side?

[Warren DeMontague]

23. Plywood, Sawdust, and a ticket taker with calloused hands.

Step right up!

[Enthusiast]

21. This is so pathetic.

And these people would claim their views are 'science', biblical science. This alone has dragged our country down.

[Warren DeMontague]

22. Let's take it one step further, shall we? Someone in my living room is close, someone in China

is VERY FAR AWAY.

When I look out the window of an airplane, everything gets REALLY fuckin tiny!

Clearly, the conculsion is inescapable..

it's not just Earth that is the center of the Universe- it's ME!

That's right. I am the center of the universe, that's why everything appears to in relation to me. Obviously the Lord intended for me to have a privileged place in the scheme of things, since here I am, right in the middle of it!!!!




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